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Hundreds Attend Forum on Attack (Long Beach, CA Hate Crime)
The Long Beach Press-Telegram ^ | 11/16/06 | Tracy Manzer

Posted on 11/16/2006 11:14:00 AM PST by Yaelle

LONG BEACH - Hundreds of residents attended a community forum Wednesday to discuss the brutal mob beating of three young women in Bixby Knolls on Halloween.

The auditorium at Hughes Middle School, 3846 California Ave., was nearly filled to capacity for the two-hour session.

Almost all of those who spoke said they were horrified by the beating and wanted to know what could be done to avoid such crimes in the future.

The incident involved a group of 20 to 40 black youths who attacked three white victims, according to the victims and witnesses.

The victims - two of whom are 19 and the third 21 years old - were going to see a popular haunted house set up in the 3800 block of Linden Avenue when the melee broke out, they said.

They suffered concussions, cuts and bruises and had their jewelry and clothes stolen after they were pummeled by males and females who surrounded them and hurled racial slurs as they punched, kicked and jumped on them.

The most seriously injured victim suffered a dozen fractures to one side of her face.

So far, police have arrested a dozen juveniles between the ages of 12 to 17 in connection with the beating. Ten were captured the night of the incident Advertisement and identified by witnesses and the victims. Two were arrested the following week.

The investigation is ongoing, North Division Cmdr. Scott Robertson said Tuesday night, adding that he could not discuss specifics because of the pending criminal case.

All of the arrested youths - nine girls and three boys - are being held at Los Padrinos Juvenile Detention Center pending trial on charges of assault with a deadly weapon causing great bodily injury.

Police arrested the youths on suspicion of multiple felonies, including hate crime allegations.

So far, those allegations have not been included in the district attorney's filing. That may change if evidence to support the charge is found, the district attorney's office has said.

The brutality of the attack shocked many in the city and ignited emotions.

Outrage over the lack of hate crime charges was swift, as were questions about whether the right people were arrested and whether the victims did something to trigger the attack.

All of the victims have denied that allegation, saying they tried to walk away when they were first insulted and pelted with lemons and small pumpkins, then surrounded by the crowd and chased down the street.

Tempers flared Tuesday night when one speaker referred to a rumor that one of "the white girls" slapped one of the suspects "who had nothing to do with the fight."

His comment was followed by a terse comment from another speaker who sarcastically wondered why the late-Martin Luther King Jr. was not at the community forum.

Cmdr. Robertson quickly interjected that there is no justification for violence, and City Councilwoman Rae Gabelich - who noted at the start of the forum that hateful or volatile comments would not be tolerated - then stepped in to calm the audience.

She too, however, was questioned by several residents demanding to know why the forum was not announced until the day prior, and why even then the announcements were limited to only certain residences.

"I was trying to keep it out of the press," she said.

The councilwoman went on to say the forum was designed to help the neighborhood most affected by the incident and that having the media involved would only exacerbate the issue.

Her comments drew heavy criticism from some residents who accused her of trying to suppress public information.

One teenage girl, who identified herself only as a Jordan High School student, said she would have liked her community to have been included because they too suffered fallout from the events on Halloween.

"I don't think this meeting should have just been for this community," the girl said.

"What do I do if people want to come to my neighborhood to retaliate," she asked, saying that some of the youths who were arrested are Jordan students.

Police and district attorney officials have not identified the suspects because they are minors.

Still others, including Gabelich, blamed the media - and specifically the Press-Telegram - for covering the incident. While some felt the press has already tried and convicted the defendants, others accused the newspaper of not pursuing the story more aggressively.

Gabelich started the forum with stern words about the news coverage, accusing the Press-Telegram and other media outlets of fueling "a growing fear and anger in the community."

Despite the charged atmosphere and strong emotions stirred by the incident, most of those who spoke did so calmly and respectfully.

Many said they appreciated the opportunity to discuss the events, and most said they hoped the community could use the incident as a rallying point to come together.

Several people expressed regret that a popular holiday tradition - one enjoyed by a record crowd of some 1,500 to 2,000 people that night, according to residents' estimates - would never be the same.

Residents are divided on what to do next year, with some advocating more police presence in the area and neighborhood watch patrols and others vowing never to pass out candy to trick-or-treaters again.

Robertson explained that other holidays - such as the Fourth of July and New Years - result in an increase of police officers in key areas of the city, but Halloween usually results in few problems.

"In light of what happened this year, we may decide (next year) to bring in more officers," he said.

Anitra Dempsey, the city's Human Dignity Officer, talked about the city's pledge to help the victims in any way it can, and her offices' efforts to work with the community to ensure the incident does not divide residents or fuel hostilities.

The night before, the chairman of the city's Human Relations Commission - which works to promote better understanding of the diverse ethnic and cultural groups in the city - told the City Council that his group plans to monitor the ongoing investigation in the case.

Officials with the National Conference for Community and Justice of Southern California have said they also intend to monitor the case and take any necessary measures to prevent retaliation or unrest in the community.

The meeting ended with Gabelich asking the audience if another forum was needed.

Roughly half of the residents agreed and the councilwoman said that another meeting will be scheduled in early December.

Several City Council members, Police Chief Anthony Batts and members of the Long Beach Unified School District Board attended the event but did not speak.

Tracy Manzer can be reached at tracy.manzer@presstelegram.com or (562) 499-1261.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: California
KEYWORDS: attack; black; hatecrime; white
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To: Al Gator

Yes. Fighting back against gangs IS necessary. And we are stymied more by political correctness (see YouTube) than by lack of police officers. And thus we end up with "youths" much like those in Paris, uncontrolled by ANYONE.


61 posted on 11/16/2006 12:01:10 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Al Gator
HOOEY, she looks the kind who just wants everyone to sit in a circle and sing Kumbaya!

Good call.

That sign next to her is a "neighborhood bill of rights", you can imagine the Kumbaya crap in that.

62 posted on 11/16/2006 12:03:02 PM PST by Doomonyou (I voted and all I got was a FUBAR Congress.)
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To: Yaelle

Yaelle, you just don't quite seem to "get it". You keep thinking that this is a "gang". I'll bet every one of those punks know each other only a little bit. It was not an organized gang attack. It was some people of one race realizing that they outnumbered some people of another race, and took advantage of the numbers. Once it started, everyone else joined in.

You are trying desparately to avoid understanding something here. A lot of blacks in America hate white people for NO OTHER REASON than that they are white!!

Once you come to grips with that, what happened in your town will make a whole lot of sense. Till that happens, you are lost.


63 posted on 11/16/2006 12:05:56 PM PST by Al Gator (Refusing to "stoop to your enemy's level", gets you cut off at the knees.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
This type of gang attacks, for no reason at all, seem to be spreading... Las Vegas last summer, this event and wasn't there something similar in Jackson MS at an upscale Mall just a few days ago?

This is PRECISELY why we need to know about this. These attacks will continue if no one takes them seriously. I didn't know about the LV attack, but on CSI they did have a mob going around beating innocents to death, recently. They must have taken that storyline from the news report.

64 posted on 11/16/2006 12:06:16 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Al Gator
Of course, they DESERVED the beatin they got from the righteously indignant victims of their hate.

Once we pay reparations, this won't happen anymore. < /sarcasm>

65 posted on 11/16/2006 12:07:43 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: Trailerpark Badass

In late october in cal?


66 posted on 11/16/2006 12:11:14 PM PST by winodog
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To: Yaelle

Having read the other post on this inhuman attack, I don't see how in good conscience they could want to keep it from attracting any outside attention.


67 posted on 11/16/2006 12:13:10 PM PST by Chewie84
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To: milwguy

Maybe the girls were trying to recreate the stuntman scene from Kentucky Fried Movie.


68 posted on 11/16/2006 12:13:53 PM PST by JZelle
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To: Al Gator
Yaelle, you just don't quite seem to "get it". You keep thinking that this is a "gang".

No, I get it. These were just teen punks, like you say. In my previous post where I waxed about cops vs. gangs, I was looking a bit more macro at crime in our cities in general. I get it about this attack. That is why I am trying to get more attention for it, specifically.

You are trying desparately to avoid understanding something here. A lot of blacks in America hate white people for NO OTHER REASON than that they are white!!

I get it. Sadly, I get it.

Once you come to grips with that, what happened in your town will make a whole lot of sense. Till that happens, you are lost.

I will agree with you here: I do feel lost. What this means is that my background did not prepare me well. I grew up to believe that we COULD even all get along. No way can I risk the life and limb of my kids on THAT belief. I refuse to ever become racist but I always have to maximize my children's safety until they are of age.

And all the good black people who are living right and teaching their kids how to be good people are fooled into supporting the rights of thuggish blacks over any whites because they believe the liberal myth that white people are the enemy. And the thuggish blacks will mock them and use guilt to keep them in line.

69 posted on 11/16/2006 12:18:59 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

Reading between the lines, it would seem that the blacks at the meeting were saying stuff like this:

"They arrested the wrong people!"

"The victims deserved it!"

"One of the white girls slapped somebody!"

"It’s the media’s fault!"

"They tried to keep blacks from finding out about this meeting!"

"Our community has suffered, too, not just the white community! What about us?"

"Whites had better not come to our neighborhoods to retaliate now!"

Gee...where is the condemnation for the attacks? Where is the sympathy for the victims? Did any black person there express such?


70 posted on 11/16/2006 12:20:22 PM PST by Nea Wood (Is cheap, illegal labor worth one life?)
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To: Yaelle

I am very interested in hearing how this is resolved. It is outrageous that the National Main Stream Media has seen fit to ignore this.

RamS


71 posted on 11/16/2006 12:20:23 PM PST by RamingtonStall (More Guns ==> Less Crime! Get your CHL today! http://www.ohioccw.org/)
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To: Yaelle
The incident involved a group of 20 to 40 black youths who attacked three white victims, according to the victims and witnesses.

"incident", I like it. It certainly wasn't a hate crime, as the victims were white. "Incident" is a good word to describe what took place.

72 posted on 11/16/2006 12:28:13 PM PST by TheDon (Are you a cut and run conservative?)
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To: Yaelle
The CSI story was loosely based on that attack. It took place this past summer when these gangs broke into a casino and started beating people, killed one.. also earlier in the summer they desended on a parking lot attendant at one of the big hotels on the strip and started kicking and beating the attendant.... both incidents were caught on video tape.

The thread on Mississippi caught my eye because I have a friend that lives in Ridgeland and it's an upscale community outside Jackson... then this. Long Beach and most communities along the coast there are decent communities, but they are surrounded by some pretty rough areas...

73 posted on 11/16/2006 12:39:47 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: stylecouncilor

I never heard about this incident on the local news.


74 posted on 11/16/2006 12:51:54 PM PST by windcliff
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To: Yaelle

One thing is clear. If hate crime charges are not filed, it will be because those whose job it is to file them are racist.


75 posted on 11/16/2006 1:07:33 PM PST by monday
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To: TheDon

"incident", I like it. It certainly wasn't a hate crime, as the victims were white. "Incident" is a good word to describe what took place."

I realize you are trying to be clever and sarcastic, but it comes off as lame and stupid. Of course if you are serious, then you really are lame and stupid.


76 posted on 11/16/2006 1:15:37 PM PST by monday
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To: Nea Wood
Gee...where is the condemnation for the attacks? Where is the sympathy for the victims? Did any black person there express such?

Yes, sympathy was expressed just about all around for the victims. But one woman, elderly, a retired schoolteacher, brought down the house crying out for sympathy and love for both the victims AND the attackers. She had the audience wiping their eyes. She said that she wanted to help ALL children. IMHO, the attackers are too far gone. We must do something to stop their little siblings from becoming like they are.

77 posted on 11/16/2006 1:29:19 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: popdonnelly
I'm looking for the white Jesse Jackson. Someone who would tell blacks we're not going to take this kind of violence.

Oh yes we will take it. We're going to bend over and bow down at the sacred alter of political correctness until it literally kills us off. That these thugs have been instilled with a hatred of other races, especially whites, from an early age, must never even be mentioned. They are deemed the downtrodden, oppressed victims of society. Thererfore, their hostility and violence is justified and excused.

78 posted on 11/16/2006 1:29:38 PM PST by Bullish ( Reality is the best cure for delusion.)
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To: RamingtonStall
I am very interested in hearing how this is resolved. It is outrageous that the National Main Stream Media has seen fit to ignore this.

I agree. We have to get this story out. It's the only way to put enough pressure on the PC Patrol to stop such attacks from becoming more commonplace.

79 posted on 11/16/2006 1:31:10 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: TheDon
"Incident" is a good word to describe what took place.

Yeah. Just an ordinary incident where girls get their heads bashed in.

80 posted on 11/16/2006 1:40:44 PM PST by Yaelle
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