Mexicans Breach Minuteman (MCDC) Constructed Border Fence!

Registered ^ | 11-16-2006 | RegisteredMedia

[Lurker]

If you want to mock a fence, here's one for you:

Here's another:

Here's yet another:

There's a critical difference between the three I posted and the one you're mocking. The images I posted were all built using your tax dollars.

The one you're 'mocking' didn't cost your lazy ass a dime.

L

[Registered]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1740065/posts?page=278#278

[Lurker]

Liberal Playbook Rule #1:

When you've lost the argument, call your opponent names.

Congratulations. You can now move on to learning, loving, and living Liberal Playbook Rule #2.

L

[Registered]

Thank you for supporting the cause of mocking poorly constructed fences.

The first fence picture you posted IS an actual Minuteman/MCDC fence that was put up in Arizona.

Here's a link for your "lazy ass" to click to the article with pictures

See how utterly embarrassing it is to support these bunch of fence scammers?

If you want to mock a fence, here's one for you:



You owe me an apology Lurker, but I won't hold my breath.

[Lurker]

Here's another built with your tax dollars:

It's the one I meant to post originally.

Like I said, take a good hard look at your tax dollars at work.

The MCDC did it on their own, without a dime from your pocket.

So let's compare and contrast shall we?

Minuteman fence built at no cost to the US taxpayer:

and a US Government Fence built at taxpayer expense:

Which of these two fences is more of a boondogle and deserving of scorn?

Humm.....let me think.....

But by all means do continue to dazzle us with your witty offerings. I'm sure all those folks burying dead loved ones, trying to recover from beatings, stabbing, shootings, rapes, assaults, robberies, burglaries, etc etc etc will find your skills with Photoshop to be side-splitting, knee slapping funny.

L

[Bob J]

The question is, where's the fence money? Simcox said they raised 1.7 million for it. It must be held and distributed in a separate account or corporation? If so, all of what we've seen and all this discussion is moot.

I see nothing in these report that have anything to do with a fence.

[Bob J]

EV,maybe you can help us with this question. Looking at the docs it doesn't look like these reports includes funds raised to build the fence. It might, but the numbers aren't matching as Simcox and the MM have stated they raised over a million for it.

Do you know if the "fence project" is a separate entity with separate accounts and banking/accounting concerns?

[RockinRight]

From one of the greatest comedies of all time:

http://www.adrianspeyer.com/ptpoint.mp3

[EternalVigilance]

My understanding, from public sources, has always been that that is the case. Everything I see from this report jives with Simcox's statements and everything I've heard about their operations.

You know, it's somewhat of a mystery to me why any "conservative" would want to do the SPLC's work of giving conservative organizations anal exams anyhow, or why they have so much time on their hands to do so. Are personal grudges and petty disagreements that important in the bigger scheme of things? Don't they have conservatives to elect, and work to do in tending their own gardens?

By the way, the very fact that you ask the question is a tacit admission that you don't have enough information to make a fair, objective, righteous judgment about Chris Simcox or MCDC.

[Bob J]

So the reports you link to have nothing to do with fence donations/expenditures?

[Bob J]

Why do you keep putting up pictures of cattle fences as if they ave anything to do with either the MM fence or the wall the gubmint is building?

[Bob J]

Of the odd 400k raised it shows 144k for fundraising and and another 174k for "Professional Services". Do you know what this is or have a breakdown of these expenses?

[Rb ver. 2.0]

Does this mean you'll use a gorilla when you do an Obama parody?

[EternalVigilance]

Of the odd 400k raised it shows 144k for fundraising and and another 174k for "Professional Services". Do you know what this is or have a breakdown of these expenses?

Uhmmm...no. I'm neither an IRS agent nor an enemy of Simcox out to dig dirt so I can try to destroy him.

[Bob J]

"Uhmmm...no. I'm neither an IRS agent..."

Well, were not asking you be an IRS agent, just to help detail a little better some of these expenses. You've seem to have been inclined to do that for the broad brush accounts and the minor expenses but a little closer examination is needed to mop up some of the nagging questions...IMO.

I've been told that when a non profit bringing in substantial funds wants to bury what might be embarrassing expenses they do so under "Program Services". Kind of a nebulous catch all account that is difficult to nail down explanationwise.

Of course, during an IRS audit it's the first account they tear apart but up to that point it's a good grave for burying questionable items you don't want the public to see. For instance The "management salaries" account may show zero or next to nothing, but "program service" expenses could be checks written out to companies providing "services" that are owned by them or the principals in an effort to hide from the public how much they are actually benefiting from the organization. It's not illegal per se, but it is also not very truthful nor transparent.

So, we have two questions here, one, where is the accounting for the funds (1.7 million?) Simcox has alleged came in to build the fence, and two, what is the account detail and who are the entities who were written checks under the "program services" and "fundraising" accounts. Together they account for 320K of the 449K the reports say was raised and spent and that is over 70% of their expenses in 2005. They really should have a little more detail than just those two journal entries.

[Bob J]

One other note. I noticed on the 990 that MCDC chose to label that 174k "Program and Management Expenses" (I thought management expenses were only 5%?) but on the independent audit that you seem so proud of the label it "Professional Services".

Auditors are required to maintain a higher standard than company accountants and I think it is strange that when they saw those expenses,who they were going to and for what, they looked like Professional Services to them...not Program Services.

[EternalVigilance]

Again, Bob, unlike you, I'm not misdirecting my energies, or wasting my time, trying to give conservative organizations an anal exam. So, if you must, continue on, but without me.

[Registered]

Does this mean you'll use a gorilla when you do an Obama parody?

By your suggestion it sounds like you are a bit racist. However, I have already done one of those Obama images and I used an appropriate representation: Obama Nation

[PRND21]

Bad deflection, he asked legitimate questions.
I note you're not demanding apologies anymore.

Your "Simcox Vindicated" campaign seems to have gone like your other campaigns. Nowhere.

[bert]

Nobody so far can spell chiwawa

Is that MAF? Long time no see.