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--suddenly, a doctrinaire left-winger gets it--
1 posted on 11/17/2006 4:23:15 AM PST by rellimpank
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To: SheLion

smoking ping


2 posted on 11/17/2006 4:26:38 AM PST by Pan_Yans Wife
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To: rellimpank

Now he knows how gun owners feel in about half the states of this country.


3 posted on 11/17/2006 4:28:13 AM PST by GnL
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To: rellimpank

This guy has a great way with words. My sentiments exactly!


4 posted on 11/17/2006 4:31:36 AM PST by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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a world controlled by people who write laws for my own good.

Ohhhhhh, you mean the democrat party. Well, I guess they're just smarter than all of us. /sarc
5 posted on 11/17/2006 4:32:53 AM PST by snowrip (Liberal? YOU HAVE NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT. Actually, you lack even a legitimate excuse.)
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To: rellimpank
A smokeless Poker table? Next thing you know they'll be requiring cholesterol checks at Macdonald's prior to ordering.
6 posted on 11/17/2006 4:33:59 AM PST by Rb ver. 2.0
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(Another snip from the article)

First the smoke-banners have to finish what they started. Buffy Martin, the lobbyist for the American Cancer Society, told the Las Vegas Sun that banning smoking in casinos and in bars that find ways around the ban is "absolutely" on the horizon. Why?

"We have a duty to protect every single worker in this state," she told the paper. "I do think Nevada will become 100 percent smoke free in the future."

I think we should take people like Martin at her word: She won't rest until the last cigarette is pried from the lips of the last smoker in the last bar in this town. All for their own good, of course.

Listen, I'm under no illusions....

But I would rather run headlong into the icy embrace of the Grim Reaper than live a week in a world controlled by people who write laws for my own good. Because such people are more dangerous than a truck full of cigarettes.

...I asked manager Michael Hackett why I shouldn't be allowed to smoke in a bar. Children aren't allowed there. People who choose to show up there know what they'll find. What's the harm?

He had no answer. But that's because the real answer is that people like Martin and Hackett think they know better what's good for you than you do.

8 posted on 11/17/2006 4:37:26 AM PST by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: rellimpank

Yuppies think if I don't smoke, they will live for ever.


9 posted on 11/17/2006 4:37:27 AM PST by Comus
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That's a good article. As much as I can't stand smoking why the hell would someone sit in an establishment that is designed for SMOKING?

This is a perfect example of some chick walking around with her giant "Offend Me" bubble.

10 posted on 11/17/2006 4:38:33 AM PST by New Perspective (Proud father of an 3 year old son with Down Syndrome)
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I would rather run headlong into the icy embrace of the Grim Reaper than live a week in a world controlled by people who write laws for my own good.

AMEN to that.

12 posted on 11/17/2006 4:43:55 AM PST by King of Florida (A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them.)
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"But I would rather run headlong into the icy embrace of the Grim Reaper than live a week in a world controlled by people who write laws for my own good. Because such people are more dangerous than a truck full of cigarettes."

I couldn't agree more


13 posted on 11/17/2006 4:43:59 AM PST by GQuagmire
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The smoke Nazis are going for the jugular now. Vegas? No Smoking?

Next thing you know they will outlaw gambling because, well, it's for my own good. Wouldn't want me to lose MY money.

I am so sick of this socialist crap I could puke!

15 posted on 11/17/2006 4:49:33 AM PST by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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Nevada needs to move to a drug free state and then move to the no smoking issue. See if they have any success with that.


16 posted on 11/17/2006 4:50:26 AM PST by SR 50 (Larry)
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I'd love to quote the last line. Love it!


17 posted on 11/17/2006 4:54:00 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance (<h2>SAY NO TO RUDY! I know how to spell, I just type like s#it.)
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I quit smoking 4 years ago due to a disabling heart attack, but I will support a smoker to the bitter end...

I do not believe that a certain group of snob nosed idiots running around this country because they have nothing better to do, can tell a select group how to live....

These tight mouthed, snob nosed idiots are the same ones that banned sex from the front-room, the kitchen, the bathroom...so you know what your dealing with...

There isn't a one of the tight lipped females that have a set of kahunas amongst them that have the guts to stand up face to face, eyeball to eyeball to any one and tell them to quit smoking or to stop having sex....if they did, we wouldn't have these stupid laws going into effect....

Oh and another thing, I don't believe for a minute the rat crap that comes out of their mouths about your health insurance, hospital insurance, etc....we're financing illegals aren't we???? So send them back so we can cover the smokers needs....

Yes, by the way, I'm running for POTUS....;)
19 posted on 11/17/2006 4:56:27 AM PST by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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Freedom ping.

Nevada passed a smoke ban? Unbelieveable.

Read the whole article, it's a good one.


24 posted on 11/17/2006 5:21:34 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Mike Pence for House Minority Leader and John Shadegg for Whip)
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Ooh, Buffy has a degree in Art History, so we must bow to her expertise in the realm of "public health."

Buffy Martin, Professional busybody:"Prior to her employment with the American Cancer Society, she served as a fundraiser and public affairs director for Planned Parenthood.

Buffy Martin

33 posted on 11/17/2006 7:12:06 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." -- C. S. Lewis


44 posted on 11/17/2006 8:35:47 AM PST by tarheelswamprat (So what if I'm not rich? So what if I'm not one of the beautiful people? At least I'm not smart...)
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Well, I didn't read the entire thing, but if a "left-winger suddenly gets it" I assume you mean he comes out heavily on the anti-cig-grabber side of the issue, i.e., the Libertarian or personal rights side. Well, if that's true let me tell you, that as a FINALLY non-smoker , for the second and final time, and it's now been THREE years since I have had a cigarette ( I never smoked cigars)AND ALSO a strident pro-gun, RKBA advocate, I see NO contradiction between these two positions. It wouldn't bother me a bit for states ,municipalities, or the Feds to issue a blanket law governing smoking in bars, restaurants, whatever. I would bridle at banning it in the open air, on the streets and sidewalks, or any place else where the daily rounds of my ordinary daily life would probably put me in proximity of smokers. Don't you think it might create a few problems if suddenly we had national laws that ALLOWED EVERYONE the RKBA and wear those arms in public? Don't you think every psycho would go out and buy a holster, and be entitiled to parade around with impunity ,intimidating total strangers with said firearm on public view?
The fact is, it is possible for non-smokers to side with the smokers, and it is possible for non-gun-owners (like me) to side with RKBA, TO AN EXTENT. BUT there is a tipping point which exists precisely at that intersection between common sense and the public good: everything I suppose is legislatable and adjudicatable, but there should be laws preventing the smelly homeless from congregating in public libraries ( a case we had years ago, in MOrristown, NJ, near where I live) and the smelly smokers from spewing out their toxic odors in places where I might ALSO be happening to congregate. I could go on..... but just for openers, that is where I am......


45 posted on 11/17/2006 8:41:15 AM PST by supremedoctrine ("Talent hits a target no one else can hit, genius hits a target no one else can see"--Schopenhauer)
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I don't understand how a state that legalizes gambling and prostitution is so offended by - GASP! - smoking.


46 posted on 11/17/2006 8:42:49 AM PST by RockinRight (The loss is temporary, hopefully we learn from our mistakes.)
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salty words for a mainstream Nevada newspaper.


47 posted on 11/17/2006 8:47:35 AM PST by advertising guy (If computer skills named us, I'd be back-space delete.)
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