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Embittered Insiders Turn Against Bush
Washington Post ^ | November 19, 2006 | Peter Baker

Posted on 11/19/2006 8:34:17 AM PST by TheTruthAintPretty

The weekend after the statue of Saddam Hussein fell, Kenneth Adelman and a couple of other promoters of the Iraq war gathered at Vice President Cheney's residence to celebrate. The invasion had been the "cakewalk" Adelman predicted. Cheney and his guests raised their glasses, toasting President Bush and victory. "It was a euphoric moment," Adelman recalled.

Forty-three months later, the cakewalk looks more like a death march, and Adelman has broken with the Bush team. He had an angry falling-out with Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld this fall. He and Cheney are no longer on speaking terms. And he believes that "the president is ultimately responsible" for what Adelman now calls "the debacle that was Iraq."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: iraq; kenadelman; neocons; turncoats
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1 posted on 11/19/2006 8:34:18 AM PST by TheTruthAintPretty
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Are we still allowed to call the French "Surrender Monkeys" when we seem to be following their lead?


2 posted on 11/19/2006 8:35:30 AM PST by TheTruthAintPretty (G-d Bless our brothers and sisters, sons and daughters, fathers and mothers in harm's way!)
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To: TheTruthAintPretty

At least the rats are happy.


3 posted on 11/19/2006 8:36:05 AM PST by Chi-townChief
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Yawn the Wash Compost trying a pathetic attempt to stop nancy pelosi's implosion.


4 posted on 11/19/2006 8:37:32 AM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: TheTruthAintPretty

I've yet to see the WaPo refer to Hussein as "the disgraced" Saddam Hussein. I guess they are more sensitive to the feelings of murderous, Iraqi dictators than they are to American conservatives.


5 posted on 11/19/2006 8:41:05 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (America! It's off with the desert BDUs and on with the lavender burqas!!!)
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To: TheTruthAintPretty

Adelman professes to be a thinker - In reality, he's a stinker.






6 posted on 11/19/2006 8:41:25 AM PST by hgro
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To: TheTruthAintPretty

Do I smell a book deal coming? Looks like Adelman is trolling for some interviews on the morning shows.


7 posted on 11/19/2006 8:42:55 AM PST by digger48
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To: TheTruthAintPretty
What they are claiming as a "defeat" is merely a serious effort by those losing power--the Sunnis--to hang on or return to power. They do this by suicide bombers killing civilians lined up for work, IED's on our soldiers and other means of dispiriting the civilian population both in Iraq and in the US.

The RATS want defeat little understanding the consequences there and here. Our enemies are formidable and especially those within "our gates."
8 posted on 11/19/2006 8:45:26 AM PST by shrinkermd
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To: TheTruthAintPretty

All I had to see was the headline, and I said to myself, "Gotta be either the NYT or the Washington Post."


9 posted on 11/19/2006 8:47:14 AM PST by Dont Mention the War (Giuliani '08: Why not p. o. BOTH sides?)
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To: shrinkermd

The words "defeat" and "debacle" have to be defined pretty far down to apply either of them to the situation in Iraq. But, it appears our enemies are right about us. We just don't have the stomach for anything anymore...


10 posted on 11/19/2006 8:50:24 AM PST by MeanFreePath
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To: TheTruthAintPretty

I have been reading, ad nauseum, about all these "insiders" who have joined the lamestream scumbag newsrooms and the Democrats in criticiizing the conduct of the Iraq war, and I am still waiting for one report - - just one - - which, finally, includes a sentence that begins with, "What we should have done is....", or, "The way to win this thing is to....".

I give up. It ain't happening. Everybody's a critic, but nobody has any ideas.
This Washington Post story is just the same old same old.....


11 posted on 11/19/2006 8:51:15 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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[. . .a former aide's book accusing the White House of moral hypocrisy and with Vanity Fair quoting Adelman, Richard N. Perle and other neoconservatives assailing White House leadership of the war.]

The former Bush aide was exposed as a Clinton agent-provacatur and those misquoted in the Vanity Fair article have denounced it as fictitious, pre-election propaganda. The above article is post-election, partisan propaganda.
12 posted on 11/19/2006 8:51:15 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee (Anything a politician gives you he has first stolen from you)
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To: TheTruthAintPretty
If the Washington Post says something, don't believe it.

Their main printing plant is within walking distance of 5 mosques, one of which provided extensive services to the AlQaida ground control team that supported the two hijackings out of Dulles.

They speak out of fear, as well they should, and if we're all smart once we get rid of the Islamofascist threat we'll get rid of the "posties".

13 posted on 11/19/2006 8:51:33 AM PST by muawiyah
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14 posted on 11/19/2006 8:51:45 AM PST by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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Sounds more like Adelman is the problem. At the least he's an opportunist.


15 posted on 11/19/2006 8:54:18 AM PST by seppel
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To: TheTruthAintPretty

I still don't see how Iraq is the quagmire everyone says it is. I actually think that it is going pretty well.

Countries are having second-thoughts about supporting terrorists due to the chaos in Baghdad and our military, most importantly our National Guard, have gotten a great education on how to fight terrorist scum in large cities and small. Oh yeah, and a dictator is soon to be hanged.

If that's a quagmire give me some more of that.


16 posted on 11/19/2006 9:02:23 AM PST by HelloooClareece (Support the CinC during WARTIME or get outta my way.)
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To: MeanFreePath
The words "defeat" and "debacle" have to be defined pretty far down to apply either of them to the situation in Iraq.

Part of the problem is that some of the people quoted in that article "defined victory up" so far that anything short of establishing a united pro Western Democratic government in Iraq can be claimed by our enemies as our "defeat".

Once the war was defined that way, we were in deep trouble.

17 posted on 11/19/2006 9:16:07 AM PST by M. Dodge Thomas
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To: HelloooClareece

You're right about the Guard. They, and the rest of the U.S. military, are the most combat-experienced force in the world right now including Israel. The American military has always proved--even in Vietnam--that given enough time and resources it can adapt to solve the problems it faces and achieve military victory. All the negativism here does not correlate with the general expression of hope and optimism you hear from the troops and the generals in Iraq. Rumsfeld said that if the war is lost it will be in Washington D.C. and not in Iraq.


18 posted on 11/19/2006 9:17:34 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee (Anything a politician gives you he has first stolen from you)
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To: TheTruthAintPretty
Are we still allowed to call the French "Surrender Monkeys" when we seem to be following their lead?

Even assuming that the worst is true, trying and faily for 4 years is quite different from the French surrender model.

19 posted on 11/19/2006 9:18:44 AM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Spot on Brad. The quagmire is in DC, not Iraq.

I was struck by Abizaid saying that he felt hopeful when in Iraq talking to the Generals there. It was in DC that he felt despair about this conflict.


20 posted on 11/19/2006 9:20:32 AM PST by HelloooClareece (Support the CinC during WARTIME or get outta my way.)
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