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A man that stands up for his Southern and Scots-Irish Heritage can't be all bad.
1 posted on 11/21/2006 1:14:35 AM PST by BnBlFlag
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I believe that the only reason he ran as a Democrat is because Senator Allen was running as a Republican. I think he is going to surprise the democrats alot over the next two years when he votes against many of the issues that they love so much. I of course could be wrong, but I don't believe he is going to play follow the leader much. He just does not seem the type.


2 posted on 11/21/2006 1:28:25 AM PST by napscoordinator
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Kudos for his standing up for his Confederate heritage, but the Scots-Irish are a group of foreigners across the ocean.

The South put up a good fight considering they had less people, less railroads, less manufacturing, and a more export dependent economy than the North. They also did not strongly go on the offensive into the North until late in the war. Had they proceeded to Washington, DC in the Battle of Manassas/Bull Run, the Confederacy could have gotten foreign backing and could have won the war.

3 posted on 11/21/2006 1:30:39 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( For the Republic.)
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Well, hopefully this thread will not descend to the level of other threads when the Civil War is mentioned.

Before it does thou, I wan to give a heart felt salute to all the men Virginia who did their duty those four years. Your sacrifice was not in vain and your memory will be kept alive in our hearts.

4 posted on 11/21/2006 1:41:20 AM PST by James Ewell Brown Stuart (If you want to have a good time, jine the cavalry!)
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Webb would stand up for the gay nazi environmentalist yougurt eaters club if he thought it would help him advance himself.


6 posted on 11/21/2006 1:45:57 AM PST by zbigreddogz
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If all things related to the Confederacy are 'bad' then:

SHOULD WE CHANGE the names of FEDERAL MILITARY FORTS AND POSTS NAMED TO HONOR CONFEDERATE GENERALS

If the flag flown to honor our dead soldiers is racist, bigoted, wrong, and a painful reminder of slavery then isn't it logical that it would be 'racist, bigoted, and a painful reminder of slavery' for to continue to honor the names of Confederate Generals above federal military installations in this country?
With places like Fort Bragg named for Confederate Gen. Braxton Bragg and Fort Benning named in honor of BG Henry Benning and Fort Rucker, Alabama, Fort Polk, Fort Hood, Fort Lee, Fort A.P. Hill; all named in honor of Confederate officers who led these soldiers - what is the standard?
Will these same voices demand the Secretary of Defense to change the names of the Federal military installations named in honor of the Confederacy and its leaders?
Every soldier that is stationed and serves at one of these forts, is in a sense honoring a Confederate General and the Confederacy every day; even when they write their addresses on a letter home to their families. What is the standard; is there one set of rules for the federal government and another for the states?
The truth is that the American Civil War is not so simple to slice it into a black and white issue. Brothers fought brother, Irish fought Irish, Jewish Confederates fought Jewish Union soldiers, there were Confederate Native American units as well as Hispanic Confederates and Black Americans served on both sides of that war. Complexity is central to the issues that led to that terrible war and complexity continued right into the conduct of that war. And it remains complex to this day.
The fact is, we as a people have become a new American that is not simply black or white or yellow or brown and millions of Americans today, of all races and colors, are descendants of soldiers who served on both sides in our Civil War. We have a common history and a shared heritage and it is time we move on.

One of the largest and most impressive sites at Arlington Cemetery is the Confederate Memorial Monument...

Of course there is a Confederate Monument at Arlington - a very very large monument. Remember, it has only become Politically Incorrect to honor our fallen Southern heros and our Battle Flag for about the past 10-years. By the turn of the last Century (1900) the soldiers who fought the war, and the Federal Government had a great deal of respect for each other and in 1900 a section in Arlington was authorized for the exclusive burial of Confederates soldiers and their wives.

The Memorial Monument was sculpted by Moses Ezekiel who also made a famous statue of George Washington. Ezekiel served as a Sergeant of Company C of the Cadets, Virginia Military Institute during the Civil War. After that service, he graduated from VMI in 1866 - he is buried near the base of the Memorial. He was also a Jewish Confederate. Yes, there were many of them along with Native American Confederates, Hispanic Confederates and even Black Confederates.

The cornerstone of the Monument was laid in 1912 and one of the speakers was James Tanner, Commander-in-Chief of the Grand Army of the Republic(Union Veterans Organization). The Monument was dedicated on June 4, 1914 with President Woodrow Wilson making the principal address before a crowd which included thousands of former Union and Confederate soldiers.

Anyway, there is pretty good site which contains some great pictures and information of the Arlington Confederate Monument itself at the following: http://www.arlingtoncemetery.com/csa-mem.htm

More information on specific Confederate burials at Arlington National Cemetery is at: http://www.arlingtoncemetery.com/csa.htm

A few that may be of particular interest is a Canadian Confederate Jerry Cronan one of 40,000 Canadians who had fought in the American Civil War, Joseph Wheeler
Lieutenant General, Confederate States, Major General, United States Army and a Member of the United States Congress, and Juliet Ann Opie Hopkins Nurse, Confederate States of America who was wounded in battle and was called the "Florence Nightingale of the South." and many others.

For additional information check out the official US Government Arlington site at: http://www.arlingtoncemetery.org/visitor_information/Confederate_Memorial.html

Even President George W. Bush has kept alive the tradition of the wreathat the Confederate Memorial at Arlington:
http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/csa-mem-bush.htm

Map of Confederate Memorial: http://www.arlingtoncemetery.org/interactive_map/Section16.html#17

Images from Google: http://images.google.com/images?q=confederate+memorial+arlington&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

 

NOTE: I'm sorry for the History Lesson, but I have to repress a head-shake when someone buys into the Neo-History of the South and the Politically Correct attitude towards Confederate names. How many people realize that there are dozens of FEDERAL MILITARY INSTALLATIONS today that are named in honor of Southern Generals? I suppose these same people would take issue with Ft. Bragg - home of our Special Forces and Delta Force - etc. Bragg was a Confederate General....just go down the list and see for yourself. Ft. Benning, Fort Lee, Fort Polk...etc....maybe we need to rename these Federally Funded 'Confederate Honoring' Military Bases to something more PC?! Fort Jane Fonda? Fort Bill Clinton - Fort Lincoln....oy vey!

Katherine & Van Jenerette

www.jenerette.com

www.jenerette.com/desertstorm

Arlington Cemetery Main Page & Information

Images from the Monument

The South Carolina State & National Flag

7 posted on 11/21/2006 1:47:13 AM PST by Van Jenerette (U.S.Army 1967-1991 Infantry OCS, Hall of Fame, Ft. Benning Ga.)
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That thing turned on President Reagan. This man will "NOT" get my support. He is a Democrat. When one takes a long look at this whole sordid picture, this nation is in trouble in more ways than one.
17 posted on 11/21/2006 2:26:16 AM PST by Paige ("Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." --George Washington)
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A man that stands up for his Southern and Scots-Irish Heritage can't be all bad.

Let's hope his next novel doesn't include a scene where a returning Confederate soldier sees his little boy running naked towards him, picks him up, and ...

You know in a hypothetical world, Robert E. Lee himself would probably have stripped Webb of his Southern citizenship for writing such pornography into ANY novel.

Congratulations Virginia, you voted for him, you got him.
21 posted on 11/21/2006 2:29:13 AM PST by mkjessup (The Shah doesn't look so bad now, eh? But nooo, Jimmah said the Ayatollah was a 'godly' man.)
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There seems little doubt but that James Webb will be a maverick. Southern Democrats are few and far between in the US Senate these days and virtually all of them buck the national party at least somewhat. This is particularly heartening when you think that the Demoniacs have the narrowest majority possible, not just being 51-49, but also that the switch of just one seat returns the chamber to GOP control.

I was looking at Bob Casey's credentials last night and it's clear that he, too, is no typical Democrat. And, yes, you can add Jon Tester to the same list. Then there's Joe Lieberman (who was elected only because 70% of Connecticut Republicans voted for him compared to only 1/3 of CT Dems). It's clear that the Senate Dems will get nowhere without GOP co-operation. Lincoln Chafee is no longer part of the GOP caucus, either. Claire McCaskill, believe it or not, has a few conservative wrinkles, too, especially on illegal immigration. From the sound of her website, it almost appears as if she wants to ship them all back across the border!

We have to work with these folks, so let's make the best of it.


25 posted on 11/21/2006 3:04:05 AM PST by Princip. Conservative
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LOL{ You all got snookered. He's going to vote the liberal harry reid line to keep his job, and I find it interesting that thw Wash Post didn't publish these wrods for they would have hurt Webb amongst liberal voters.

Well since you seem to enjoy the experience of being snookered may I suggest you visit your nearest used car lot.

33 posted on 11/21/2006 3:37:24 AM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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These remarks were made by Webb in 1990.

If he says the same things today, I would agree with your comment.

However, with the PC crap that has gone under the bridge since 1990, especially concerning the Confederacy, I doubt he would stand by his statements today.

Kinda like Algoremanpig on abortion from 1988 to 1992.


43 posted on 11/21/2006 5:26:43 AM PST by exit82 (Clinton didn't try. He just failed.)
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He's pretty bad.

He's a classic class-warfare type of guy who writes porn.

Of course, if he splits the Dems he'll do some good.

44 posted on 11/21/2006 5:27:49 AM PST by what's up
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I read a few chapters of "Born fighting" - good book, no idea it was him.


45 posted on 11/21/2006 5:28:39 AM PST by Conservomax (There are no solutions, only trade-offs.)
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He has a true heritage of which to be very proud. Too bad he's a lib.


46 posted on 11/21/2006 5:29:29 AM PST by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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Gasp!
RACIST, RACIST, RACIST
Oh. He's a Democrat now. If he was still a Republican there would be mighty ass kissing dues to be paid to the unending above the fold front page stories in Dead Tree Media.

He's a 'crat rat now. Nevermind/sarc


49 posted on 11/21/2006 5:37:39 AM PST by Gideon Reader ("The quiet gentleman sitting in the corner sipping Kenya AA and enjoying his Stan Getz CD's".)
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While the historical part of these words is truly amazing and extremely moving, the third to last paragraph makes the MAIN point:

It is simply this: You hold our soldiers' lives in sacred trust. When a citizen has sworn to obey you, and follow your judgment, and walk onto a battlefield to defend the interests you define as worthy of his blood, do not abuse that awesome power through careless policy, unclear objectives, or inflexible leadership.

which is clearly meant to smear the decisions of the President and the Generals in Theater. IMO, someone who has such an ancestry should be able to appreciate the struggle of the IRAQIS and how we are there to HELP them to become FREE MEN AND WOMEN. But he, like so many other Democrats on Capitol Hill DO NOT recognize this war for what it is, DO NOT hold our reasons to be genuine, and consider this to be a war fought carelessly, EVEN THOUGH the percentage of losses is a stark 360 degrees opposite result of what has EVER taken place on ANY battlefield.

I am not one to drink the kool aid no matter how tempting it looks.
51 posted on 11/21/2006 5:48:55 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Sorry soldiers.....your country just let you down.)
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he would never talk like this today.

he is now committed to be socialist dog manure.


53 posted on 11/21/2006 5:56:44 AM PST by ProudCopperhead
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I think that you could be right, but he sure does talk a lot of BS. I do believe that he is going to give the dems some problems though. Even if he is lower than pond scum, he could still be an embarrassment to the democrats.
55 posted on 11/21/2006 6:15:37 AM PST by napscoordinator
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I believe Webb's strategy to stay in office is going to be adherence to inconsistency. He will be a Democrat and vote a liberal line - most of the time. He will, however, rebel at opportune moments to please his constituency, or if he is not getting enough attention.

To conclude, the Democrats now have their John McCain.

Regards, Ivan

61 posted on 11/21/2006 6:59:23 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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Andrew Jackson populist?


62 posted on 11/21/2006 7:00:05 AM PST by eyespysomething
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As a Scots-Irish who has had relatives in every war since the Revolution I'd say Webb is a first-class BSer. He'll be one of those liberals who'll vote the party line in Washington and come home to the Virginia mountains and talk smack about those sick people in Washington.

I hope he rots.


68 posted on 11/21/2006 8:42:28 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (What's the one elected position Ted Kennedy has never held? Designated Driver.)
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