Posted on 11/22/2006 7:11:10 AM PST by goldstategop
Why don't you get your head out of your a$$ just long enough to actually read what really happened at the link provided above. Are you so dense to not see that the original screed that began this thread is a tissue of lies?
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
Which is, of course, precisely what Suthers told the Saudis. And yet your undies are still all twisty ... clearly the actual details of the case don't matter to you. That's not an ad hominem attack, it's simply a statement of fact, based on your posts.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
I'd call it a reasonable diplomatic move, in which Suthers appears to have done very well. I know how galling that must be to a keyboard kommando like yourself.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
The link below is from the U.S. State Department and describes the human rights situation in Saudi Arabia:
http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2005/61698.htm
Happens pretty regularly, especially in death penalty cases.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
I think they owe us a lifetime of favors and good will for Gulf War I. Though the U.S. liberated Kuwait the thrust of the whole campaign was saving the Saudis and their oil.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
"In an unprecedented move, the State Department flew Attorney General Suthers to Saudi Arabia to personally explain--and apologize for--Al-Turki's conviction to Saudi King Abdullah."
This is an example of why the policies and arrogance of our own State Department is the biggest threat to our national security. By its own self-importance, the department holds itself unaccountable to Congress, the President, even the Secretary of State; not to mention expressed demands of the electorate. This insanity has been going on for decades and every S of S has refused to do (or could not do) anything about it. If Condi Rice (or any S of S) can’t control (or condones) such continuing incompetence and dangerous policies of the State Department, she shouldn’t head that or any other department.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
Ridiculous.
When are Americans going to stop apologizing for everything they are and for everything others are NOT?
The trip was paid for partly by the U.S. State Department and partly by King Abdullah. Suthers didn't have a final tally but said no Colorado taxpayer money was spent.
Colorado taxpayers don't help to pay for the U.S. State Department?
This quote in the article says a lot about the differences between US and Saudi culture.
"One of the brothers of the defendant that I had met sat through the trial and they simply cannot understand that a jury can give credibility to an Indonesian maid," Suthers said. "And the only possible explanation that is some sort of anti-Muslim bias."
Sad that Suthers had to explain to these people that, in the US, even lowly, dirty, foreign maids have a natural right not to be enslaved and raped.
I simply posted that article because it was conveniently found. The facts presented can be found in plenty of other sources. Schlussel is simply lying.
Colorado taxpayers don't help to pay for the U.S. State Department?
His point, which I'm sure you understand, is that the trip was not paid for directly by the State of Colorado.
This is a gross misrepresentation of what Suthers did. He wasn't apologizing, just helping out American-Saudi diplomacy. al-Turki is the son of a prominent imam who runs one of the major mosques in either Mecca or Medina. I don't think we could have just ignored this dispute, and perhaps we'll even give a few people some clues about how our justice system works better than Sharia.
58 posts and no pic of Debbie yet? grrrr....
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