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Polygamists Worry Jeffs Case Harms Image
AP ^ | 11/23/06

Posted on 11/24/2006 2:18:58 PM PST by Mr. Brightside

Today: November 24, 2006 at 12:5:13 PST

Polygamists Worry Jeffs Case Harms Image

By JENNIFER DOBNER

ASSOCIATED PRESS

ST. GEORGE, Utah (AP) - A criminal court case here paints a polygamist sect's leader as a controlling abuser who breaks up families and forces girls to marry men sometimes decades older.

But polygamists who aren't associated with Warren Jeffs' group say the case is giving people unfair perceptions of their way of life.

"I think everyone that lives the lifestyle now is guilty by association," said Rachel Young, 45, a polygamist wife and mother of 12, who is a member of the Davis County Cooperative Society, a polygamist group.

Polygamy is illegal under Utah and federal laws. Opponents say the practice is abusive to women and children, who often live in poverty and are unable to leave.

"We believe that they are guilty by association, because they are all essentially doing the same thing," said Vicky Prunty, director of Tapestry Against Polygamy, a group that helps women leaving the practice. "It's a lifestyle with a lack of choices that is hurting people."

Jeffs, 50, leads the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, a sect with roots in the teachings of early Mormonism. He is charged with two first-degree felony counts of rape as an accomplice for his role in the arranged marriage of a 14-year-old girl and her 19-year-old cousin in 2001.

Prosecutors completed their case Tuesday in a hearing to determine if enough evidence exists to send the case to trial. The hearing will resume Dec. 14.

Attorneys for Jeffs said the case is not about rape, but polygamy, and is the continuation of 165 years of religious persecution. Washington County prosecutors maintain polygamy isn't the issue, because the girl's cousin had no other wives.

Polygamists say that detail gets lost in the frenzy of media reports, as do differences among the FLDS and other polygamist groups.

Polygamy came to Utah in the 1800s when members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, known as Mormons, settled the Salt Lake valley. The church abandoned the practice in 1890 as a condition of Utah statehood, although some members refused to accept the change, going underground to continue the practice.

The legacy of that split is an estimated 37,000 self-described "Mormon fundamentalists" who live in Utah and other Western states, according to a survey by Principle Voices, a pro-polygamy advocacy group in Utah. Some are members of organized groups or churches while others remain independent.

Those contacted by The Associated Press say they don't arrange or force marriages, especially for young girls, and don't condone abuse of any kind. And they say women are not prevented from leaving if they choose, nor are children expected to become polygamists as adults.

"But it's hard to tell really what's going on in some of these groups that haven't been targeted. There is so much secrecy," Prunty said, who applauds the case against Jeffs. "I think it's also very easy to look in someone else's backyard and say they are the ones committing the abuse."

Utah isn't the only place where polygamy is being practiced.

Nationwide, a growing number of fundamentalist Christian polygamists claim no early Mormon roots and don't belong to any organized faith, said Mark Henkel of TruthBearer.org, a polygamy rights organization.

Socially, most polygamists try to keep a low-profile in society. Since the Jeffs arrest in August that instinct to keep "our heads lower," has been heightened, Henkel said.

"I have to protect my family more than ever," he said in a telephone interview from Maine.

Like Utah polygamists, Henkel said polygamists without Mormon roots disavow Jeffs and the crimes he's accused of. Henkel is disturbed that the FBI considered Jeffs such a threat that in May they named him to the agency's Ten Most Wanted fugitives list along with such notorious figures as Osama Bin Laden. The designation implies that polygamy is a Top 10-level crime, he said.

"It's outrageous," he said. "If you took out the word polygamy and put any other - homosexual or Jewish - and tied it to this very, very important list, the (groups) would be screaming political hate speech."

Utah polygamists fear the immediate impact of Jeffs' case could set back work they've done to forge a more open relationship with Utah authorities that were designed to root out criminal abuses and help families access state services.

Young is concerned about the effect on her children. In 1953, when Arizona officials raised the FLDS border town of Colorado City, Ariz., dozens of parents were arrested and their children put in state custody.

"For the kids who are old enough to understand, there's a lot of fear," Young said. "They don't want to be taken away."

On some level it's hard for polygamists to know how to react, said Marianne Watson, a historian raised in polygamy.

Some want to more publicly separate themselves from Jeffs by denouncing him, but there is also sympathy for his obedient followers with whom there is a shared belief and often family ties.

Watson said she's angry. She believes Jeffs' four-year rule over his faith is dismantling their culture.

Jeffs is revered as prophet who communicates with God and can strip followers of their eternal salvation. He is known for dismantling families on a whim by kicking out unworthy men and boys and reassigning women and children to new husbands and fathers.

"I have seen him turn a community inside out," Watson said. "To see what he's done is such a crime ... and they can't prosecute him for that."


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To: rocksblues
Utah has lots of open space. Maybe we should move all muslims to it.

Far, far better to move them back where they came from.

21 posted on 11/24/2006 3:26:33 PM PST by Spirochete
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To: Mr. Brightside
Genesis 2:24...Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

Issac was the only Patriarch who understood this.

22 posted on 11/24/2006 3:37:11 PM PST by onedoug
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To: Mark Felton

Outlaw divorce



I would go for this. This is the biggest morals buster for America and a complete sin to boot. Although funny nobody seems to think it is a sin.


23 posted on 11/24/2006 3:47:13 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: fat city

Yipes! I thought you said a Pygamy rights Organization???!!!


24 posted on 11/24/2006 4:22:04 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Moderate Mooslims.....what's that?)
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To: Mr. Brightside
Technically its illegal but there are just too many for prosecutors to clog up the courts with putting polygamists in jail.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

25 posted on 11/24/2006 4:24:25 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
No sweat, Ex:

Pygmy Rights

26 posted on 11/24/2006 4:42:07 PM PST by fat city (What part of cognitive dissonance don't you understand?)
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To: Mr. Brightside
"Wife Killers Worry Simpson Case Harms Image"
27 posted on 11/24/2006 5:00:41 PM PST by 2Hot4You (Don't Be The Bunny)
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To: gb63

No wonder he had little time left to do King stuff.


28 posted on 11/24/2006 6:50:04 PM PST by R.W.Ratikal (q)
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To: rocksblues

Please don't.


29 posted on 11/24/2006 6:52:12 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: smug

There is a huge enclave related to the Colorado City/Hilldale sect in Canada and Mexico, particularly Baja.


30 posted on 11/24/2006 6:55:13 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Mr. Brightside

31 posted on 11/24/2006 6:58:57 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Who invented rock and roll hiccups?)
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To: onedoug
Unfortunately the history behind pologamy has nothing to do with Genesis but Joseph Smith, in the 1830's-40's, falling in love with many lovlies who were not his wife. This lead to his codifying a covenant for plural wives (he is believed to have 40). If a young girl refused she was (and still is) told she will face eternal damnation. He would basically tell the girl he had a message for her, that he had been commanded to take another wife and this young girl s the woman... Warren Jeffs did the same thing with his flock.

Pologamy was outlawed in the State of Utah in order to become a State of the Union, some refused to give it up and basically went underground, some moved to Mexico, some to Canada, etc., but it has never totally died out, though the Church condems it officially.

32 posted on 11/24/2006 7:11:28 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: goldstategop

A lot of prosecutors and judges have found themselves out of office in Utah and here in Arizona when they take on the Pologamists.


33 posted on 11/24/2006 7:12:17 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Mr. Brightside

34 posted on 11/24/2006 7:42:10 PM PST by UnklGene
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To: Mark Felton
This is a crisis in the church as well -- the rot is coursing though bible beleiving churches of all stripes

Your remarks go triple for these

Churches increatingly are filled with the wreckage of broken homes -- and ministries in to many ways are supposrting this as an acceptable culture by not examining how the changes in what they taught in the last 2.5 decades has changed the complete landscape -- for in the early 1970's divorce was unheard of among beleivers. This is a case of same and different and my mother adds that in the early 1960's divorce was almost unheard of among non-beleivers.

35 posted on 11/24/2006 7:44:50 PM PST by Rocketman (Study to show thyself approved . .)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Aren't many of the police and people in the legal system in some of these state also polygamists?


36 posted on 11/24/2006 7:58:33 PM PST by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance and dilligaf?)
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To: pandoraou812

Yes... as a result it's very difficult to actually have a trial and get the young women into court to testify. They have to be able to go back and live in the community ... and when you have a judge, like Judge Conn, who gives probation when one of the members is found guilty of forcing a minor to marry and have sex or of having sex with a minor it makes everyone throw their hands up in disgust.


37 posted on 11/24/2006 8:46:34 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: fat city

Wow....Freepers rule.


38 posted on 11/25/2006 4:44:08 AM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Moderate Mooslims.....what's that?)
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To: PeterFinn

They tend to do it without "benefit" of marriage, though.


39 posted on 11/25/2006 4:46:17 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: napscoordinator

Outlaw divorce, and you'll drive up the murder rate. ;) Seriously, so many politicians are divorced, this would never be passed by any legislature at any time.


40 posted on 11/25/2006 4:48:14 AM PST by linda_22003
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