Skip to comments.The beginning of the end of Western civilization
Posted on 11/24/2006 2:26:49 PM PST by AnalogReigns
Western civilization life as we know it is under attack, and indeed has even reached a very dangerous point. Some may even think it is a point of no return.
Not just because in recent months Muslim groups around the world insisted that the pope apologize for merely quoting someone else. No, not just because the prime minister of Denmark had to grovel to the Muslim nations for a cartoon that appeared in a Danish newspaper, over which he had no control whatsoever. No, not even just because President Bush rushed into a Muslim mosque in Washington, D.C., after Sept. 11, 2001, declaring that Islam is a religion of peace.
These are merely modern-day indications that Islam's 1,400-year-old method of attempting to reign and rule by intimidation and fear are reaching new heights. Throughout their history, the followers of Islam have attempted to practice the very core of their religious worldview namely, to see to it that their religion, which they view as superior to all other religions, overwhelms the followers of all other religions.
In days gone by when they had no political or military (terrorist) voice, they were biding their time. But now, as is confirmed daily in our newscasts, we know that they command numerous foot soldiers and cells in Europe and North America. Surely, they feel that their day has come. The day of successfully intimidating and gaining more concessions, and thus more ground toward realizing their 1,400-year-old dream of world domination, is within their reach.
How can we know this? After extensive time examining self-confessed radical or revolutionary Islamic groups, I've discovered a root of resentment deeper than that of mere opposition to colonialism.
To most of these people, the Crusades were not just events in history that took place nearly eight or nine hundred years ago; instead, the Crusades signify a perpetual desire on the part of the Christian West to dominate them and prove their religion inferior. Thus, it is essential to explore even beyond the Crusades to comprehend fully the undercurrents of today's Islamic resurgence. Current Islamic thought as expressed in al-Jihad is a stream flowing out of a peculiar interpretation of Islam.
Even a casual observer must be asking, "Why do they 'violently and murderously' object to others pointing out the violent nature of the founding of their religion?"
Well, this is just the point. When you deem your religion to be superior, you can torture, maim and kill your enemy, whom you view as inferior, without a need for explanation. On the other hand, those who are viewed as inferior by them dare not even be associated with the slightest bit of criticism of them.
Alas, the beginning of the end of Western civilization as we know it did not begin with modern-day examples of bullying into submission those whom I mentioned above. But rather, if you ask any of the reliable leaders in the Middle East, as I have, they will tell you it began during the Carter administration.
When Muslims held Americans hostage in Tehran, Iran, for nearly a year and a half, and the most powerful nation in the world (the "Great Satan") acted impotently, there were a million hurrahs rising from Morocco to Indonesia. As they say in the Middle East, "The cow is down and what is needed are more butchers with sharp knives."
There is no escape from this historical disaster. Reagan and George W. tried to reset the clock, but sadly it appears too late. I am no politician and I do have a genuine love for the Muslim people, but the facts are stubborn and will not go away.
Short of unity among the Western leaders to speak the truth with moral clarity a miracle that even those of us who believe in miracles doubt greatly there can be no future for Western civilization as we know it.
There is one dim hope, however. Our only hope it is that the moderate leaders of Arab nations can lead the charge against religious imperialism with courage and without fear. Only then will the Western leaders rise in unity from the graves of apathy and support these leaders in their endeavor in order to resuscitate Western civilization as we know it.
As they say in the Middle East, "The cow is down and what is needed are more butchers with sharp knives."
Only in Steyn it's not a cow, it's a camel.
As John Dryden said..."Beware the fury of a patient man."
IMO, the West is just waking up. When it is fully aroused, it will be really p!ssed off...and islam will regret ever opening it toothless mouth.
So, when do you think the outcry for reparations for the Crusades will begin?
Death cults come and go, but the Light of the Lord Shines Forever.
Just kill 'em.
Youssef, being Egyptian, knows Arabic...and likely has a firsthand knowlege of the expression. Steyn's is probably quoting a classic rendition of it. If anything, Steyn may be borrowing from Youssef--though likely they are saying the same things merely because they share the same worldview and opinion.
I think you have a point. I am hearing more and more, better hard-hitting interviews over talk-radio and now Glen Beck in his TV program, with folks who are well versed and are able to speak with authority and conviction. It's a breath of fresh air after all the wuss talk for several years.
Yes. I just finished Steyn's book, and noticed a lot of parallels, not just that one. But an intelligent person could come up with many of them independently, or maybe they've both read some of the same sources.
Islam is not really the primary problem. The problem is the rapid moral decay of the West.
Al of these doomsdayers forget that the West has the nuclear option.
No matter how quickly these primitives develop a nuclear weapon of their own, the minute they deliver one to a Western city and turn it into a radioactive crater, they will be annihilated, probably starting at places like Damascus, Tehran, Mecca, and Medina.
They are counting on their "12th Imam" to protect them from the fury that is bound to follow such an attack, but, alas, the "12th Imam" is only a myth perpetrated by the Devil.
Odd perception it is. The last thing I or any other Christian wants is to dominate Islam. And I, or anyone else I know go around trying to prove Islam is inferior. Islam just is. Whatever floats your boat.
Hopefully everyone figures this out, and we can peacefully coexist. Otherwise, we may have to utterly destroy their society on a global scale. Carthage like in the results.
"There is one dim hope....that moderate leaders of Arab nations can lead the charge against religous imperialism with courage and without fear."Dream on Mike.
I don't see any western countries with the will to act. I don't think at present you would see a nuclear response from the U.S. even if several American cities were destroyed tonight. Who do you blame? Who do you attack?
It should be our pre-announced, public policy to destroy certain muslim cities and 'holy' sites if WMD's are used against us. You would see much less support for the military arm of islam if the major players in the ME thought it was a credible threat.
With the unfortunate possibility of another 9/11 size attack on the CONUS, maybe we'll be justified in a Milosevic style ethnic cleansing....
That would be a revisionist accounting of what the Crusades were.
In reality however, the crusades were a defensive action, sent to RETAKE the holy lands, which were overrun by murderous Muhammadan hordes. Later they were defensive acts against murderous Muslim hordes which were trying to slaughter their way into Europe, which they nearly succeeded doing, slaughtering their way into then controlling most of Spain for a few hundred years.
Muslims were never innocent victims of anything in history. They were always murderous barbaric agressors.
Who walks quietly and carries a big stick.
not that there is anything wrong with that of cousrse....
Since the Christian side ultimately lost the Crusades, I think that reparations payments should begin immediately.
How much do you think the Muslims should end up owing us?
I disagree. Here's why. Almost all of the civilized countries have become toothless, and this is the result.
We continue to display lack of resolve by not even bothering to rebuild the WTC. It's pathetic.
Sadly, at this time, this is very true.
I'm not completely certain that this is true, though at this time the overwhelming response required to utterly destroy the enemy's will to fight-on is not likely.
Who do you blame? Who do you attack? This is not as difficult as it sounds.
The followers of the pirate-polygamist-pedophile prophet are to blame.
And the targets for attack:
Even though there are Mohammetans in those places that do not support the worldwide jihad, there were Japanese and Germans who did not support their respective hegemonistic tyrannies.
But that didn't stop us from hitting them with everything we had.
And it shouldn't, either.
Let me ask you this...
Muslims were never innocent victims of anything in history. They were always murderous barbaric aggressors.
Back in the late 40s, early 50s... When the US/UN gave the Jews Israel. and the palestinians were herded out. Does this fit in the contrary to your statement?
Please do not think I am doubting you, I am asking. I have heard this from folks, and unfortunately my HS education did not cover it well enough for me to remember.
actually, after I hit post, I've been waiting to get banned for it...
It's still up in the air, but for the victory of God, of good over evil. But that could take thousands of years yet.
"No matter how quickly these primitives develop a nuclear weapon of their own, the minute they deliver one to a Western city and turn it into a radioactive crater, they will be annihilated, probably starting at places like Damascus, Tehran, Mecca, and Medina."
What makes you so sure?
Isn't it also possible we would determine the perps were not from a national entity, but were rogues from say Al Qaeda.
And we'd determine we needed allies like Saudi Arabia and Egypt, to continue helping us fight?
And we would determine the present military was big enough for this world war. No draft.
And we'd determine no financial sacrifices. No taxes, no surcharges, no war bonds, etc.
In other words, it would be business as usual, just like since 9/11/2001.
Which is probably what cost the election in November.
Unfortunately, you are right. The west has lost it's faith, and with it, it's knowledge of history and it's will to fight. Only with a reversal of rebellion against our Christian faith will we be able to unite and fight the coming scourge. Otherwise the wrath will come just as it is predicted. We are protect by faith in Christ. Abandon it and we also abandon the divine protection it once gave us. We can't win this without faith because that isn't how God planned it. Armageddon is decreed, only faith holds it back.
then ban me too..... I have no regrets for feeling the way I feel.
Goin' out for more ammo tomorrow, Guns.
Nor do I. I do like the discourse however. Too bad we can't say the "Emporer is Buck Naked"...
If you really want to understand the fundamental driving forces behind all of this, I'd recommend reading "Cannibals and Kings: Origins of Cultures ", by Marvin Harris. Pay particular attention to what motivates the "Mumi".
Don't let my question leave you with an impression... I could give a rat's a** about the palestinians. I just needed ammo against the only thing I have heard regarding aggression against muslims. This is what they have stated was the aggression.
I now have another full magazine in which to do my verbal battles and I thank you...
I didn't see it for a while, LoL!
Muslims are very good at playing the victim as they slaughter.
We just seen what happens when an attempt is made to give back some of this annexed land. It simply becomes a better location to attack Irrael from.
Anthor thing you should read is the Hamas charter. They spell out what "Palestinian" goals really are.
Again, it seems westrn leaders have difficulty hearing what Muzzies aren't afraid to admit.
They even wrote it down in the Hamas Charter to make it clear. It just falls on blind politicians eyes.
Not only do they express their undying desire to kill every last Jew, but from there, they plan to take Spain and eventually the entire world, including the great Satan.
Yet we give them billions in foriegn aid.
The problem is the rapid moral decay of the West.
and an unwillingness to defend it's stated values and 1/2 a population who believe that negotiation is the answer to everything and that the U.N. is the answer and armed conflict will solve nothing. Only another catostophic event will wake us up in this country. I have my doubts that such an event in Europe would wake them up. They'd just blame U.S. policy and Israel as usual.
Al of these doomsdayers forget that the West has the nuclear option.
And it is so maddening to me that our gov't, and so many other gov'ts, are blind to this. The "peace process" is a sick, perverse game. The goal is to drive the Jews into the sea. Period. And we want to pretend like children playing make believe that it's not true.
This has been going on since I was a child, and I'm getting old.