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"Having a college education, a decent career, and future plans.... There's nothing more unattractive to women than men in dead end jobs."

Your posts have a lot of anger in them, why is that?

What interests me is that you're angrily defending your right to choose a mate based on income, education, and a laundry list of your needs and expectations, yet nowhere do you mention love, and you spit on the idea of motherhood.

If you base your decision on your needs and expectations, you will be divorced, as human beings are imperfect, and there is no man that will be perfect, according to what you are demanding. I meet women like you every day, just hitting their 40's, single and bitter because their "standards" are so high, no man could ever hope to reach them - and their relationships in ashes because they tried. They can't quite understand why they're still single. I hear them lament "He's such a nice guy, and like him, but...." - and it's always he doesnt make enough money, doesnt have enough of a status symbol job, doesnt want to be a mover and shaker on Wall Street, isn't motivated enough, isn't smart enough...whatever. You, i feel, will join their ranks. I don't say that to be malicious, I just know your kind. I've dated enoughw oemn like you to know what your future is, and it's sad, and I hope you can see to drop your anger, and start to develop healthy attitudes towards men, marriage, and motherhood. Nobody is demanding that women stay barefoot and pregant, yet you came out of the box swinging for the fence with attitude and anger, and showed yourself to be part of the problem the article talks about.

Wome are more educated then men? LOL. Okay, whatever you say. That's a nice, snooty attitude you have, and that will do fine to ruin any chance you have of ever being in an honest relationship. Respect is important, and with your comments, you show yourself to be a typical man-basher, who looks down her nose at men. You anger also reveals this.

"Dead end job"? So you'd rather be alone, and single, instead of enjoying the love and comfort of a family? Marriage isn't about being rich, my dear, it's about much more important things than money. I think, with your anger and your attitude, you will never find those things, and I feel sad for you. I hope you find some comfort in material possessions and social rung climbing, but I doubt it, meanwhile, all those guys in "dead end" jobs will be going home at night to loving families and a life of happiness and prosperity you will never understand or know.

I know I'd rather be dirt poor and happy in my marriage and family, than rich and miserable. I truly hope you find out someday that your attitude, so well represented here in this thread, has as much to do with your inability to find a good husband, as the "rejects" you so snarkily refer to do as well. Yes, there are a lot of flaky, screwed up men out there, but there are a lot of well adjusted men, who are going to make great husbands and fathers, but you'll pass them by, because they don't have the "right" job, or make enough money, or did'nt go to college.

I wish you luck, from the bottom of my heart. You'll need it.

I meet women like you every day, just hitting their 40's, single and bitter because their "standards" are so high, no man could ever hope to reach them - and their relationships in ashes because they tried. They can't quite understand why they're still single. I hear them lament "He's such a nice guy, and like him, but...." - and it's always he doesnt make enough money, doesnt have enough of a status symbol job, doesnt want to be a mover and shaker on Wall Street, isn't motivated enough, isn't smart enough...whatever

I feel really torn about this sort of attitude. Yes, there are a lot of great guys out there that some women are writing off because they don't have the right job or the right attitude. But... I'm a software programmer and I'm fairly intelligent. I'm not sure how it would have worked out if I'd tried to marry a man who wasn't in a profession I could really look up to. Like an artist or something. For me, a big part of what I wanted in a husband is a provider so when we have kids I can stay home. I got that. My husband's an engineer, he's brilliant, and we'll be able to afford me raising the kids without many sacrifices.

Him being a good provider isn't why I love and respect him, but I don't know if I would have decided to love him if his job had been something I didn't respect.

"Your posts have a lot of anger in them, why is that? "

I believe that lots of people on this board, who agree with me on many things, are also trying to keep me in the kitchen. Frankly, I fear for the Republican party if its rank and file cannot accept the fact that there are women out there who want real careers...

"What interests me is that you're angrily defending your right to choose a mate based on income, education, and a laundry list of your needs and expectations, yet nowhere do you mention love,"

I'm a college educated woman; I'd like to go out with a guy with a college degree since I think that he would have more in common with me than a guy who changes oil at Jiffy Lube. Frankly, I believe that before you even get to love, you have to like someone, and if you don't have anything in common with that person, then you're not going to even go out with him. Also, I would like someone who has some economic stability... There's nothing less sexy for a woman than having to provide for a deadbeat husband. I have no expectations concerning a guy's looks or his personality (although I have no tolerance for Mama's boys).

"and you spit on the idea of motherhood."

No, I would like to get married and have kids if I meet a desirable man; however, I have not met him yet. If I haven't met him by the time I'm thirty-three, I might seriously consider having a child on my own... I don't think that this is so bad.

However, I do "spit" on the idea of motherhood for children who are only eighteen, even if those children decide to get married.

"You, i feel, will join their ranks. I don't say that to be malicious, I just know your kind"

Dude... did you read your little tirade???? And you think that I seem bitter??? It seems like you are a bit bitter as well...

"start to develop healthy attitudes towards men, marriage, and motherhood. Nobody is demanding that women stay barefoot and pregnant, yet you came out of the box swinging for the fence with attitude and anger, and showed yourself to be part of the problem the article talks about. "

Being a stay-at-home/ homeschooling mom with fifteen children is better than being a career woman is the prevailing attitude of this board. I've been around here long enough and gotten into enough fights with men (and women) who feel that women should remain pregnant, barefoot, and in the kitchen to realize the sort of people who post here. I post counterarguments because the fact that there are people who still think this way in the U.S., especially when we're fighting a war against people who treat women as second class citizens, disgusts me.

"Women are more educated then men? LOL. Okay, whatever you say. That's a nice, snooty attitude you have, and that will do fine to ruin any chance you have of ever being in an honest relationship. Respect is important, and with your comments, you show yourself to be a typical man-basher, who looks down her nose at men. You anger also reveals this. "

Here's an article concerning attracting young people to mid sized cities... http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-03-08-cities-women_x.htm It basically states that women in Gen X and Gen Y are better educated, more likely to attend and complete college, and more desirable for these cities than young men. I wish the opposite was the case as it would improve my chances of getting married.

""Dead end job"? So you'd rather be alone, and single, instead of enjoying the love and comfort of a family? Marriage isn't about being rich, my dear, it's about much more important things than money. I think, with your anger and your attitude, you will never find those things, and I feel sad for you. I hope you find some comfort in material possessions and social rung climbing, but I doubt it, meanwhile, all those guys in "dead end" jobs will be going home at night to loving families and a life of happiness and prosperity you will never understand or know. "

Or perhaps they're stressed by the fact that they cannot pay their bills and have over twenty thousand dollars in credit card debt??? However, I digress. I'm sure that many of those men have wives and children who love them, but they're probably not college educated women. I'm sure that for someone who lives in a trailer park or an inner city ghetto, a guy who works as a mechanic is a good catch.