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The new groupthink (reject appeasement re: Iraq!)
Townhall.com ^ | 11/27/2006 | Frank J. Gaffney, Jr.

Posted on 11/27/2006 11:42:44 AM PST by Dark Skies

We are, as the saying goes, between Iraq and a hard place. Unfortunately, events this week seem likely to drive us inexorably closer to the hard place – one that is going to be a lot worse than what we have seen in Iraq so far.

These events include a two-day trip to the woodshed in Amman, Jordan with President Bush for Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki. They will be considering ways in which al-Maliki can prevent the collapse of his government and his country’s slide into full-scale civil war. Presumably, the two leaders will be factoring in the results of Vice President Cheney’s three-hour visit to Riyadh to appeal to the Saudi king, Abdullah, for help with Iraq.

Iraqi President Jalal Talabani will be meeting with his Iranian counterpart, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, in Tehran to discuss bilateral relations. Presumably, among the topics for discussion will be the success Iran’s regime is having in its efforts to destroy a Free Iraq.

Finally, there will be two days of deliberations by the Iraq Study Group, co-chaired by former Secretary of State James Baker and former Rep. Lee Hamilton. This panel, which was commissioned by Congress to examine alternatives to the present approach in Iraq, is reportedly considering a proposed report drafted largely at Mr. Baker’s direction.

What all these events have in common is the notion that the “solution” to Iraq lies in a “regional” approach. The leitmotif is that U.S. unilateralism is dead, long live multilateralism. A chastened America will be brought to its senses by the collective wisdom of Jim Baker, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Kings Abdullah of Jordan and Saudi Arabia.

But what, exactly, does this regional approach portend?

Reduced to its essence, the Baker-promoted regional strategy is a euphemism for throwing Free Iraq to the wolves in its neighborhood: Iran, Syria and Saudi Arabia. The vehicle for doing so will presumably be some sort of international conference attended by such powers, together with others in the region (like Jordan and Egypt), and augmented by interested parties from elsewhere – including Britain, France, Russia and China.

Unfortunately, past experience has taught that such a conclave would not be good for freedom-loving people. The Iraqis would, of course, be toast. The best they could hope for is a new autocratic ruler whose repressive behavior will enjoy the support of the tyrants next door. They will no longer have the United States to kick around, and those who foolishly stood with us for a better future will meet an unpleasant fate.

If we are lucky, the regional “process” will afford American forces a fig-leaf behind we might obscure our strategic defeat. Heliborne evacuations from the Green Zone a la the fall of Saigon three decades ago may be avoided, provided our enemies allow us to effect a dignified “strategic redeployment.” More likely, we will be bloodied on the way out by terrorists, insurgents and others intent on compounding the ignominy insofar as it will serve their larger purpose: our destruction in the world beyond Iraq, including ultimately here at home.

Among the other predictable casualties of the regional strategy will be the people of Israel. Jim Baker’s hostility towards the Jews is a matter of record and has endeared him to Israel’s foes in the region. What could be more appealing to the latter than an international conference that will simultaneously undo the experiment in freedom in Iraq and compel Israel to make further territorial concessions. Of course, these will not mitigate conflicts in Iraq and Lebanon that have nothing to do with Israel. They will, however, allow the Mideast’s only bona fide democracy, the Jewish State, to be snuffed in due course.

We are, in short, poised to stand the U.S. Marine’s motto “No better friend, no worse enemy” on its head. If the Baker regional strategy is adopted, we will prove to all the world that it is better to be America’s enemy than its friend.

If these undesirable outcomes are so predictable, why are we slouching towards the hard place of the “regional solution”?

It comes down to a lack of seriousness on the part of too many elected leaders of both parties – exhibited in a failure themselves to understand the gravity of a global war in which Iraq is but one front, and a failure to educate their constituents about the stakes associated with such a war. This superciliousness has translated into political circumstances in the United States (including delegating great responsibility to unelected and unaccountable commissions) and strategic conditions elsewhere that make diplomatic options appear more real and appealing than they are.

Of late, it has become fashionable to assess blame for failures of intelligence and policy to “groupthink.” The term describes the phenomenon whereby lots of smart people feel pressure to conform to a consensus view and, in the process, lose (or at least suppress) their willingness to observe that the emperor has no clothes.

Rarely has the pressure to go along with such groupthink been greater than is increasingly the case with respect to the idea of relying on one or the other of our foes – Iran, Syria or Saudi Arabia – to solve our problems in Iraq. And rarely has it been more important that this strategy of appeasement, and the very hard place to which it will lead us, be rejected.


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1 posted on 11/27/2006 11:42:45 AM PST by Dark Skies
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To: Dark Skies

What all these events have in common is the notion that the “solution” to Iraq lies in a “regional” approach."

Sure, why not. Worked great in Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos.


2 posted on 11/27/2006 11:50:45 AM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: Dark Skies

Outstanding article.

Thanks for posting.


3 posted on 11/27/2006 11:51:20 AM PST by EternalHope (Boycott everything French forever. Including their vassal nations.)
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To: ConservativeDude

Do nothing about these events is not a solution, you are right it was a good article. We have to be overly aggressive, we have to stay the course, and we have to deliver winable battles to devastate the enemy. Keep pressing, and soon they will whine with fatigue. These guys are not professional soldiers, they are nothing but undereducated fools toying withg other people's lives - they are vermin! Stamp them out!


4 posted on 11/27/2006 11:56:18 AM PST by Sword_Svalbardt (Sword Svalbardt)
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To: EternalHope

This is an outstanding article.

I only agree with the liberals on one thing. If THIS is truly our end game, then, we probably shouldn't have bothered going into Iraq.

Going in was the right thing to do. It was and is in our self - interest....much more so than Vietnam (in retrospect). But, if we are just going to let the whole are go, then, we probably shouldn't have bothered.

Also, I can't help wondering, where is the commander in chief in all this? (But...you can't hardly blame him. The media has been on his ass from day one for Iraq, and the drum beat finally drove the GOP out of Congress [that plus a lot of other things]. So you can hardly blame GWB for punting on this and letting others call the shots. All things considered, I think he gave it his best shot and did some good).


5 posted on 11/27/2006 11:57:43 AM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: Dark Skies
Jim Baker’s hostility towards the Jews is a matter of record and has endeared him to Israel’s foes in the region.

That's because he's a 'realist'.

Not an 'idealist', like most of us, who think Israel should be allowed to survive.

That's the new DBM stratification.

6 posted on 11/27/2006 12:00:22 PM PST by txhurl
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To: Sword_Svalbardt

Don't you feel like sometimes we have a ferrari in the garage that we won't unleash, so it looks like we are getting whupped by a clunker with flat tires?

I guess one thing we can learn from this is that a President can't lead and protect our interest in foreign policy if he falls apart at home domestically. If you lose your base, and it causes you to lose elections, there is no way that you can effectively lead us in foreign policy. The two reals are not easily severed.


7 posted on 11/27/2006 12:02:13 PM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: ConservativeDude

The survivors paid, big time and for as long as they survived. No one wants to remember that, though...Hanoi Jane is really quiet about that.


8 posted on 11/27/2006 12:02:48 PM PST by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else." Lucius Septimus Severus)
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To: SMARTY

No one wants to remember that, though"

Incredible, isn't it?

I guess 3 million dead doesn't make much noise after awhile. Things just sort of go silent.


9 posted on 11/27/2006 12:04:00 PM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: Dark Skies

What's the author mean about Baker's known dislike for Jews? Very disturbing to read this article.


10 posted on 11/27/2006 12:05:03 PM PST by spacejunkie
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To: ConservativeDude
"If THIS is truly our end game, then, we probably shouldn't have bothered going into Iraq."

Don't buy that one. It's what they want you to believe.

It took gargantuan stones to go in there, and it will take bigger ones to stay. It's unfortunate that the Liberals have been able to so far manipulate the facts and sway the MSM to their own views. Since Liberals sold themselves to the enemies of the US long ago, their moral capitulation has been absolutely complete and permanent for so long that they cannot even comprehend the kind of commitment the present administration demonstrated. Liberals are truly the 'fat lazy cattle' terrorists accuse all Westerners of being, and play perfectly to the terrorists cause. I am truly heartsick to think that the US would forfeit the many and needed reforms ours and coalition efforts there have won.
11 posted on 11/27/2006 12:12:54 PM PST by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else." Lucius Septimus Severus)
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To: ConservativeDude

I was thinking recently of our education system in this country. Through middle school, or 8th grade, we really spend more time on teaching self esteem and being "nice." And we spend time teaching kids not to be competitive- no winners or losers at earlier ages. This all has a nice sound to it but has been carried too far for when it is time to live in the real world our country is not willing to do what it takes, ie be competitive, in a war. We are too willing to fall back on being "nice." This has been festering for some time and the chickens are coming home to roost. My guess is someday the population WILL be willing to do what it takes to WIN. But that will be after an unimaginable horror.


12 posted on 11/27/2006 12:12:59 PM PST by bombthrower
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To: Dark Skies

Have to agree with Rush here....

No one is talking about winning or victory. All seem to be waiting for the Baker Commission report or talking various forms of cutting and running. All better realize that we are there to stay for the foreseeable future. Rumors that the report will suggest dialogue with Syria and Iran are depressing. To talk with Syria and Iran about resolving problems in Iraq is ludicrous - these two states are the main fomenters of the troubles in Iraq, and a free, democratic, peaceful Iraq is antithetical to their interests.

Further, the 'civil war' ... what are we supposed to do about it? Sunni killing Shiite and vice versa is an Iraqi problem. Should our guys insert themselves into the crossfire? I think not! Saddam's gone (it would be better if he had already been executed). What we must prevent is the formation of a hard-line islamic state in his absence.


13 posted on 11/27/2006 12:13:40 PM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: Give therapeutic violence a chance!)
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To: Dark Skies
No we aren't. IF the usual collection of Dincons and Appeasement Now Leftist would simply shut up and actually listen to people like Gen Abizaid who came back from Iraq two weeks ago to tell the US Senate the facts on Iraq. But as usual the they simply cling to their opinions and political dogmas and ignore all facts on Iraq that do not conform to their preconceived notions that does not coform to their feelings on the issue.

Yes their is a group think going on about Iraq. It is the groups think being demonstrated by this author, and the rest of the Junk Media, who arrogantly refuse to learn even a single fact about Iraq.
14 posted on 11/27/2006 12:15:53 PM PST by MNJohnnie (I do not forgive Senator John McCain for helping destroy everything we built since 1980.)
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To: Sword_Svalbardt
No what we need is supposedly Conservative commentators to quit mindlessly repeating the Junk Media's group think on Iraq, actually take the time to learn the facts and grow the spine needed to speak truth to the Media Establishment whiners.

Instead of mindlessly repeating the noise machines nonsense, Conservative should grow a pair and start telling them what complete idiots they are on the topic of Iraq. For example. Here is a whole bunch of data that completely refutes the noise machines propaganda on Iraq. Do you think you will EVER see any of this reported by the Junk Media? No because it does not validate their group think on Iraq they simply ignore it.

15 posted on 11/27/2006 12:23:35 PM PST by MNJohnnie (I do not forgive Senator John McCain for helping destroy everything we built since 1980.)
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To: Sword_Svalbardt

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_Security_Forces

http://icasualties.org/oif/

http://icasualties.org/oif/IraqiDeaths.aspx


16 posted on 11/27/2006 12:24:08 PM PST by MNJohnnie (I do not forgive Senator John McCain for helping destroy everything we built since 1980.)
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To: Dark Skies

bttt


17 posted on 11/27/2006 12:29:23 PM PST by Txsleuth (Bolton/Cheney (that would be Lynne) 08)
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To: SMARTY

Problem is, if we go in, and then let it all go to rot (which is essentially what the regional solution is all about), then we look weak. We aren't weak, but it hurts us to look that way. I'm also talking purely hypothetically here. IF we had known this would be the end game, THEN it would have been better not to do it. But we don't have that luxury. We have to live in the real world.

I agree entirely that the current administration showed some tremendous resolve on this front. They did the right thing. It's just that with the entire world, and half of American against them, they couldn't finish the job.

Now, we are going to have people on the rooftops of our embassy going out by helicopter and Syria and Iran are going to carve up Iraq according to their whims and factions. The only good news will be that at least a few muslims will be killing other muslims.

At the end of the day, though, cutting and running which was brought about not by GWB but by the Dems and the media and the rest of the world, will hurt us very badly.


18 posted on 11/27/2006 12:31:34 PM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: bombthrower

The worldview of liberals and the educational stablishment are all-pervasive, for sure. Another factor at work here is the hatred of Christianity has grown so intense that a large percentage of America and almost all of Europe prefers Islam to Christianity and so they are fine with just inviting them in (even though liberals will get killed a lot faster than we will).


19 posted on 11/27/2006 12:33:28 PM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: ConservativeDude
". IF we had known this would be the end game, THEN it would have been better ..."

But, the President DID know and of course was not and is not so naive as to expect support from his political opponents at first when we deployed, or later when successes were obvious or subsequently when reverses were so frequent and violent. Knowing all this ahead of time and forging ahead is exactly when action in the face of such obstacles is properly called commitment and courage. I know that commitment and courage are really 'old fashioned' ideas, but that is what it took to initiate the plan and what (if commitment and courage are genuine) will be needed to continue. How if the American colonists decided, half way through their struggle, "well...I changed my mind" ?? That is NOT how commitment works.
20 posted on 11/27/2006 12:41:23 PM PST by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else." Lucius Septimus Severus)
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