Posted on 11/27/2006 9:17:55 PM PST by Coleus
It is more than a "lunatic fringe wishful thinking". This movement is satanically endoresed and promoted.
The misinterpretation of God's word goes back to the garden. The serpent says to Eve, "Hath God really said?" Then the woman adds to what God really said. Then the serpent interprets what God "really" said.
What most of those lunatics don't admit with their christian revisionism is that the Greek Orthodox church has been using the same language as the original bible was written (new testament).
Those folks who invited the Pope over for a visit in Constantinople have a far better understanding of the words than any revisionist homosexual translation.
The homosexuals also forget (conveniently) that abusing language and misunderstanding culture with a modern spin is easily exposed. For example, homosexuals caught in athens with children were stoned to death, with adults it was immediate exile. (exile often meant a slow death)
Homosexuals are attacking religion because they are stuck on the delusion that only the religious think homosexuals are deviant sex fetishists.
The 'Reverend' (laugh-chuckle-spew) Miner shouldn't be interpreting Scripture with his mouth full.
Isn't this already the democratic party platform?
Actually the only disingenuous thing is their equating same sex relationships, (which the bible has no problem with), with homosexual relationships, (which the bible condemns in no uncertain terms). It's a tactic that I notice them using more and more lately. If a prominent historical figure had a close friend of the same sex, they figure that gives them carte blanche to add him or her to their list of historical queers.
Perhaps Hilary Clinton needs homosexuality accepted as normal on a faster time table.
(with bill clinton dating that woman he is traveling with these days, its only fair that Hilary Clinton find her own first lady.)
LOL
Wow.
We have a metropolitan community church near me.
A couple of years ago they caused a huge stir here when some kids went to a candy sale there and came home with anatomically correct lollipops.
I have a dim view of this church.
They protest too much, me thinks. Nothing more here than their obseesion to destroy the universal moral code they know they are breaking big time.
I guess that reading the Bible the "gay-friendly" way means skipping over lots of the "inconveeeeenient" parts, like Leviticus 18.
The Word of Almighty God.
Ruth and Naomi lesbian lovers? It would be hilarious if it weren't that there are some people who would swallow such crap. Do these guys understand that they are alleging that Ruth was messing around with the mother of her deceased husband? (Ruth 1:1-5)
Oh, by the way: Ruth does end up getting remarried, and is an ancestress of the David by her son Obed, and thus the Messiah. Neat trick for a "committed" lesbo.
They also offered a different interpretation of a story that appears in both Matthew and Luke, in which a centurion asks Jesus to heal a man who is typically identified -- misidentified, says Miner -- as the centurion's servant..."That story's often preached about in straight churches," said Miner, but "nobody bothers to mention that the Greek word used to describe the sick man is the word used in the ancient world to describe your same-sex partner."
OK...let's just, for the sake of argument, assume that this is correct, and said manservant was being buggered by the centurion. Jesus did cure the boy of the debilitating paralysis. He also spoke of the centurion's faith. But what did the centurion -- in both Matthew and Luke's gospel accounts -- say about himself? He said the following:
Matthew 8:6-8: "Lord," he said, "my servant lies at home paralyzed and in terrible suffering. Jesus said to him, "I will go and heal him." The centurion replied, "Lord, I do not deserve to have you come under my roof. But just say the word, and my servant will be healed.
Luke 7:6,7: So Jesus went with them. He was not far from the house when the centurion sent friends to say to him: "Lord, don't trouble yourself, for I do not deserve to have you come under my roof. That is why I did not even consider myself worthy to come to you. But say the word, and my servant will be healed..."
So obviously, the centurion, in addition to being sick about the sickness of his servant, was also sick about being a sicko himself.
The revisionists' implication seems to be that if Jesus was bothered by the depravity of the centurion, he would have done something like zapping the dirty dude with a lightning bolt and allowed the kid to die, and anything short of the Messiah's usual modus operandi of healing all who came to be healed amounts to tacit approval of their lifestyles, no matter how repulsive.
Nothing could be further from the truth. Jesus healed the ill and fed the hungry without requiring that they repent beforehand. There is nothing in the scriptures suggesting that all recipients of Christ's miracles became loyal, dedicated followers. Many were unappreciative; some rejected him despite being eyewitnesses to his miracles. In other words, Jesus hated the sin, but loved the sinners.
To guys like the gay revisionists, "Hate the sin, love the sinner" isn't enough; you've got to love the sin, too. For the Biblically challenged, I give you the words of Hall & Oates: "I can't go for that...no can do." For the rest of us: the apostle Paul, who is routinely dismissed as irrelevant by "gay-friendly" theologians, made it crystal clear how the original Christians looked at homosexuality.
I'm no homo-apologist but, frankly, all Christians are guilty of the same thing.
I would have a really, really difficult time in walking up to a centurion and implying he was a "girly man".
bttt
"I'm no homo-apologist but, frankly, all Christians are guilty of the same thing."
Yes we are imperfect and our understanding is imperfect. But, there is a very large difference here. Those who follow Christ are led by the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Truth. The most important thing is not following lusts, but being in agreement with God. When presented with the whole truth of the Bible, all who follow Him should seek to accept the truth and not his or her own way.
These people have their lusts as their God. It would not matter to them what the Bible said. They would find a way to misinterpret the words to agree with their depraved understanding. The Bible tells us that they are reprobate. That level of depravity must affect their understanding and judgment.
Rom 1:18 - 32 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath showed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonor their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshiped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet.
And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenant breakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
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