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Reading the Bible the gay-friendly way, A forum offers rare affirmation
The Boston Globe ^ | 11.26.06 | Will Kilburn

Posted on 11/27/2006 9:17:55 PM PST by Coleus

In the battle over gay rights and same-sex marriage, those who oppose both often cite Biblical passages which, they believe, clearly state that homosexuality is wrong. Trying to rebut this view is a movement led by people who are both gay and Christian who say that the Bible is on their side.

"Most people think that the attitude of gay Christians is, 'Who cares what the Bible says?' when in reality, we care deeply what the Bible says," said the Rev. Jeff Miner , pastor of the Jesus Metropolitan Community Church , a gay-friendly congregation in Indianapolis. He led a forum on the topic last weekend at Arlington Street Church. "We think there are a lot of powerful, affirming things that are in the Bible that have been ignored." Those affirming messages were detailed by Miner and forum co-leader John Tyler Connoley in their 2002 book, "The Children are Free: Reexamining the Biblical Evidence on Same-sex Relationships." The book served as the text for the forum, sponsored by an array of gay-friendly local church groups, which drew about 200 people.

Most of the forum was devoted to passages that the authors say treat homosexuals and heterosexuals equally. In the Old Testament, claim the authors, Ruth's covenant with Naomi, which includes the memorable phrase, "Wherever you go, I will go; wherever you live, I will live," actually refers to a committed same-sex relationship. They also offered a different interpretation of a story that appears in both Matthew and Luke, in which a centurion asks Jesus to heal a man who is typically identified -- misidentified, says Miner -- as the centurion's servant.

"That story's often preached about in straight churches," said Miner, but "nobody bothers to mention that the Greek word used to describe the sick man is the word used

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; idolatry; perverts; protestant
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1 posted on 11/27/2006 9:17:58 PM PST by Coleus
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To: Coleus

Mmmno. Sorry.


2 posted on 11/27/2006 9:20:18 PM PST by RichInOC ("Rule One: NO POOFTERS!")
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To: Coleus; theothercheek; kiriath_jearim; Gadfly-At-Large; pryncessraych; aroostook war; TheRake; ...

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If you want on (or off) this Catholic and Pro-Life ping list,


3 posted on 11/27/2006 9:20:28 PM PST by narses (St Thomas says "lex injusta non obligat.")
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To: Coleus

***FACT BASTARDIZATION ALERT***


4 posted on 11/27/2006 9:21:00 PM PST by samadams2000 (Somebody important make....THE CALL!)
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To: Coleus
"...nobody bothers to mention that the Greek word used to describe the sick man is the word used in the ancient world to describe your same-sex partner."

And Mr. Miner doesn't seem to see the irony in his statement.

5 posted on 11/27/2006 9:21:43 PM PST by Reaganesque
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To: Coleus

so now we know the democrat plan for the next two years.

Demonize religion as being anti-elightened. The left is going to push acceptance of homosexual behavior as "enlightened".

Paving the way for Hitlary?


6 posted on 11/27/2006 9:23:32 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: samadams2000
***FACT BASTARDIZATION ALERT***

I like that Sam. Add it to FR's Lexicon. : )

7 posted on 11/27/2006 9:24:36 PM PST by afnamvet (It is what it is.)
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To: Coleus

Rev. Miner defers to the Queen James Version of the English Bible.


8 posted on 11/27/2006 9:25:58 PM PST by windsorknot
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To: Coleus

Wow, how interesting....the pastor is gay....and he believes the Bible endorses being gay. Isn't that a neat coincidence?


9 posted on 11/27/2006 9:27:58 PM PST by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: domenad

Facts are only objects when you have a political revolutionary agenda to accomplish. This stuff is called conditioning.


10 posted on 11/27/2006 9:31:40 PM PST by Joseph DeMaistre (There's no such thing as relativism, only dogmatism of a different color)
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To: Coleus

Why don't they try "Reading the Bible the Christ-Centered Way" for a change. Otherwise they are just setting up their sin as an idol to be worshipped.


11 posted on 11/27/2006 9:33:12 PM PST by ikka
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Note to people going any where near that church...

If you are walking away from it and hear what sounds like Hell Fire and Brimstone crashing into it, DON'T LOOK BACK unless you REALLY like salt!!!!

12 posted on 11/27/2006 9:34:07 PM PST by txroadkill (how 'bout Dem Cowboys!!!)
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To: Reaganesque

If we REALLY want to be more precise, we could talk about the fact homoadvocates often intentionally confuse the ancient greek word for "mentor" with "sex partner".

This is just lunatic fringe wishful thinking on the part of homosexuals who are in denial about the fact that no matter how hard they spin it, it is NEVER normal for sex between members of the same sex.


13 posted on 11/27/2006 9:34:52 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Coleus
A bunch of gays reading what they want to read in the texts or a medevil papl council cramming their own political agendas/doctrines down everyone's throats....what's the difference.

Read the Tao and get the same message without the collection plate and agendas.

14 posted on 11/27/2006 9:35:07 PM PST by zarf
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In the Old Testament, claim the authors, Ruth's covenant with Naomi, which includes the memorable phrase, "Wherever you go, I will go; wherever you live, I will live," actually refers to a committed same-sex relationship.

Please. This is what happens when the bible is taught without actually being read. If they actually read the story, they would see that Naomi counseled Ruth on how to snag a husband, Boaz. Boaz married Ruth, and they a child:

Rth 4:13 So Boaz took Ruth, and she was his wife: and when he went in unto her, the LORD gave her conception, and she bore a son.

There's no way you can read a lesbian relationship into this. It's sick to even attempt it. It's a beautiful story about the love of a mother-in-law and daughter-in-law...really more of a mother daughter relationship.

15 posted on 11/27/2006 9:35:34 PM PST by DouglasKC
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Pendleton was careful to make a distinction between homosexual orientation and the practice itself. "When you look at what the Bible teaches, the Bible doesn't talk about orientation; the Bible talks about behavior."
16 posted on 11/27/2006 9:37:40 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Reaganesque

Lol!


17 posted on 11/27/2006 9:39:00 PM PST by uptoolate (Their 'innocent' civilian is their next suicide bomber)
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To: DouglasKC

I'm surprised they didn't call Boaz a "sex toy" to father a child on Ruth so that her barren "lover" Naomi could have a child. (/sarcasm off)


18 posted on 11/27/2006 9:40:51 PM PST by Ciexyz (Satisfied owner of a 2007 Toyota Corolla.)
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To: Reaganesque

A most EXCELLENT point!


19 posted on 11/27/2006 9:41:01 PM PST by Howlin (Pres.Bush ought to be ashamed of himself for allowing foreign countries right on our borders!!~~Zook)
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"In the Old Testament, claim the authors, Ruth's covenant with Naomi, which includes the memorable phrase, 'Wherever you go, I will go; wherever you live, I will live,' actually refers to a committed same-sex relationship."

HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!

I've heard of bending the truth a little, but they completely fabricated this one out of fairy dust [pun intended]. After all, why should they let a little thing like what the Bible actually says get in the way of what they want to believe.

20 posted on 11/27/2006 9:46:16 PM PST by Waryone
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