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Controversial scientist predicts planetary wipeout (We're all Gonna Die!!)
This is London ^ | 11-28-06 | Staff

Posted on 11/29/2006 7:34:31 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182

Billions of people could be wiped out over the next century because of climate change, a leading expert said.

Professor James Lovelock, who pioneered the idea of the Earth as a living organism, said as the planet heats up humans will find it increasingly hard to survive.

He warned that as conditions worsen, the global population which is currently around 6.5 billion, may sink as low as 500 million.

Prof Lovelock also claims that any attempts to tackle climate change will not be able to solve the problem, merely buy us time.

Given the dire situation we face, he urged people to drop the phrase "global warming," which has cosy connotations, and instead start to think of it as "global heating."

Prof Lovelock, is an independent scientist who first proposed the Gaia Theory, which argues that the Earth, like a body, is a complex and intricately balanced system which all works together to allow life to continue as we know it.

However he fears that as carbon dioxide emissions from man and the planet itself soar, the Earth will heat up causing water shortages, destroying life in much of the planet's oceans and making it impossible for plants to grow.

Prof Lovelock, who last night gave the 5th John Collier Lecture to the Institution of Chemical Engineers in London, said: "There is very good evidence of what happened 55 million years ago when as much carbon dioxide was put into the atmosphere by geology as is being done by us now.

"Temperatures zoomed up by 8 degrees and stayed there for 200,000 years then came back to normal."

He fears something similar may happen again, and warned: "if it does it is going to make this an exceedingly difficult century."

However Prof Lovelock said mankind has managed to survive previous climatic disasters of the past.

"There have been at least seven of these major climate changes before and we have to adapt," he said.

"It is going to be tough and there will be some evolution of humans during it.

"The survivors will be those humans that can make their way to refuges or Arctic places and survive there.

"I think an awful lot of people will die but I don't see the human species dying out.

"I would think a hot earth could not support much over 500 million."

He warned there are no simple solutions to global heating and there is nothing we can do now to "save the earth."

"People will try to do things but the way to really look at them is they are a bit like when your kidneys fail you can on dialysis - and who would refuse dialysis if death is the alternative?" he said.

"But we have to remember that all they are doing is buying us time. The problems will go on.

"Trying to take the job on of regulating the earth is about as crazy as you can get.

"It is something quiet beyond humans at this stage in their evolution."

Despite this people should do what they can to reduce their impact on the planet.

"There is no point driving around in a Chelsea tractor when you can drive a small car but it does not escape the fact that changes are underway," he warned.

Prof Lovelock's dire forecast for the future of the human race is far more pessimistic than the Government's own assessment of global warming.

Tony Blair told European leaders at a summit in Finland last month that it was not too late to reverse the effects global warming.

In an open letter to delegates he said there was a window of "10-15 years to take the steps we need to avoid crossing catastrophic tipping points."

This echoes the findings of Sir Nicholas Stern in his influential report on climate change.

In it he says there is still time to avoid the worst impacts of climate change if countries co-operate internationally.


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Goofballs! The neat thing from the enviormental "scientist" point of view is that they can continue to make the most dire predictions over a long enough period that they will be dead before people see they were wrong. They don't care a bit.

Rachel Carson comes to mind.

1 posted on 11/29/2006 7:34:33 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182

There is a simple solution to this problem: reduce the Earth's population by 50%.

Funny how you never hear these guys who "sound the alarm bells" make that argument, though.


2 posted on 11/29/2006 7:36:40 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Anti-Bubba182

We're Doomed! ;)


3 posted on 11/29/2006 7:37:20 AM PST by Echo Talon
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To: Brilliant

Well, if we kill off all the damn terrorists...that'll be a good start...


4 posted on 11/29/2006 7:38:01 AM PST by RockinRight (There's nothing in the middle of the road but yellow stripes and dead armadillos.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

the libs ought to be in joy. they've been crying 'overpopulation' for decades.


5 posted on 11/29/2006 7:38:13 AM PST by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

So there, take that Bin Laddie!


6 posted on 11/29/2006 7:40:16 AM PST by Waco
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To: Anti-Bubba182
I'll worry about this when Canadian politicians start complaining about all the hot, sweaty Americans invading across their southern border begging for jobs in the Yukon banana plantations.
7 posted on 11/29/2006 7:40:26 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Hey Kerry, What part of showing heels and ass is a winning strategy in Iraq?)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
"Trying to take the job on of regulating the earth is about as crazy as you can get. ... "

Describes Al Gore and the environmental crowd to a tee!

8 posted on 11/29/2006 7:40:30 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Brilliant
There is a simple solution to this problem: reduce the Earth's population by 50%.

That is one of the goals of the misanthropic Left.

9 posted on 11/29/2006 7:42:53 AM PST by NeoCaveman (they love the environment, they just hate humanity more...)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

He must have been drinking very heavily as he watched 'Ice Age II'.


10 posted on 11/29/2006 7:43:39 AM PST by lesko
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To: Anti-Bubba182
...he urged people to drop the phrase "global warming," which has cosy connotations, and instead start to think of it as "global heating."


11 posted on 11/29/2006 7:44:08 AM PST by LRS
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To: camle

The group that practices population contol, ie Europians, is committing suicide vs the Muslims who do not buy the theory and breed sufficiently to take over.


12 posted on 11/29/2006 7:44:16 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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13 posted on 11/29/2006 7:47:10 AM PST by Turbopilot (iumop ap!sdn w,I 'aw dlaH)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Sorry, I died back in the late 70s when the new ice age hit.


14 posted on 11/29/2006 7:47:12 AM PST by Thrusher ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace.")
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To: Anti-Bubba182
10-15 years

Ok, who hasn't noticed that there has been a "10-15 years" window for the past 35 years? Anybody?

15 posted on 11/29/2006 7:47:21 AM PST by techcor
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To: Anti-Bubba182

White America is also practicing population control, has a fertility of 1.8 (which is comparable to Europe), and is being replaced in North America by Hispanics, who do not practice population control.
The phenomenon of which you speak is not confined to Europe. It is peculiar to the white race everywhere.


16 posted on 11/29/2006 7:48:26 AM PST by Vicomte13 (Aure entuluva.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

This should make for some good Fox News Alerts over the next few decades.


17 posted on 11/29/2006 7:48:28 AM PST by Pete
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To: Anti-Bubba182
The sad thing is that Lovelocks earlier works were very good and practical whether you agreed with him or not. He is now just another idiot who simply can not realize we have only a tiny understanding of the science and systems that keep earth alive and essentially have nothing but possible theories of past DRAMATIC climate changes and what caused them.
18 posted on 11/29/2006 7:49:26 AM PST by Archon of the East ("universal executive power of the law of nature")
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Rapid desintgration of sanity among earths leading climatoligists has become even more deadly than previously recognized, this horrible development has now spread to politicans and entertainment elites, the only feasible method we have of stopping this madness would be to set up re-education camps in the tropics.
19 posted on 11/29/2006 7:50:44 AM PST by claptrap (We've found a Witch can we burn her?)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Dude...Global cooling is becoming the new hip trend. You are like, so 15 minutes ago...


20 posted on 11/29/2006 7:50:45 AM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Oh boy! Affordable beach front property, at last. I've waited all my life for this.


21 posted on 11/29/2006 7:51:29 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Anti-Bubba182

22 posted on 11/29/2006 7:51:31 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Brilliant

"Billions of people could be wiped out over the next century because of climate change, a leading expert said. "

Might want to start stockpiling winter gear in Africa now.


23 posted on 11/29/2006 7:51:38 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (I thank the RNC for freeing me to vote my values rather then political party. It is liberating!)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Trying to take the job on of regulating the earth is about as crazy as you can get.

"It is something quiet beyond humans at this stage in their evolution."

Despite this people should do what they can to reduce their impact on the planet.

"There is no point driving around in a Chelsea tractor when you can drive a small car but it does not escape the fact that changes are underway," he warned.

LOL! I kept the sentences in the order they appeared, but color coded two of the many contradictory elements.

This scientists seems to suffer from extreme stupidity. Are they giving out diplomas in boxes of cracker jacks?

24 posted on 11/29/2006 7:52:20 AM PST by Last Laugh
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To: Anti-Bubba182
We must elect Algear since he knows where the dimmer switch is, since he invented it!
25 posted on 11/29/2006 7:54:27 AM PST by Young Werther
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Professor James Lovelock, who pioneered the idea of the Earth as a living organism, said as the planet heats up humans will find it increasingly hard to survive.

On the plus side, I guess I can throw out my snow shovel.

26 posted on 11/29/2006 7:55:32 AM PST by 6SJ7
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To: Brilliant

There is a simple solution to this problem: reduce the Earth's population by 50%.

His initial point seems to be that the earth is doing exactly that.


27 posted on 11/29/2006 7:58:11 AM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: Young Werther

That's one hell of a scientist we got there. Did you catch the part where he said Carbon Dioxide emissions will make it impossible for plants to grow? Hello???? That's what plants breath. This guy musta' drank a whole case of Dumb-ass.


28 posted on 11/29/2006 8:02:15 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
...drop the phrase "global warming," which has cosy connotations, and instead start to think of it as "global heating."

Nah. Still too rosy. To sell this to the rubes, the "branding" department has got to do better ... hmmm ... thinking cap on ... Global Scorching? Global Searing? Global Broiling? Global Inferno? Global Clambake? Global Toast? Maybe we should conduct a focus group.

Meanwhile, record lows here in Northern California.

29 posted on 11/29/2006 8:02:19 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Anti-Bubba182

I'm sure this guy is going to lock himself in his air conditioned bunker for the nexr century while the rest of us rats die horribly.


30 posted on 11/29/2006 8:02:58 AM PST by shekkian
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Lovelock is not a scientists. He is the founder of the Gaia cult.

Any actual scientists knows that the Earth is not itself an organism.

31 posted on 11/29/2006 8:08:02 AM PST by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

At the rate Nations are murdering their own citizens, we probably have other worries on population.


32 posted on 11/29/2006 8:13:32 AM PST by Waco
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Describes Al Gore and the environmental crowd to a tee!

Yep, but the underlying reason is money, not survival of the human species. Always follow the money (especially if someone named Gore is in the loop)......

33 posted on 11/29/2006 8:14:51 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Tennessee - The last Conservative rock sticking above a deep blue sea....)
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"Temperatures zoomed up by 8 degrees and stayed there for 200,000 years then came back to normal."

I FEEL the high temps are the normal ones,so you're wrong.

34 posted on 11/29/2006 8:18:18 AM PST by Minnesoootan
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35 posted on 11/29/2006 8:18:24 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (A liberal is a suicide bomber without the guts)
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To: massgopguy
Then there's increased soda pop usage. Every burp and every f@rt is releasing green house gases!

Of course they never compare SUV emissions to volcanic eruption! The recent postings of Mt Etna in Sicily and the mini quake in Hawaii continue to vent CO2!

I guess we're doomed! Maybe we should kill the messenger. One less exhale!

36 posted on 11/29/2006 8:20:22 AM PST by Young Werther
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To: Anti-Bubba182
It is very easy to make these future centuries stupid predictions when you will not be alive to be proved absolutely wrong.
37 posted on 11/29/2006 8:20:54 AM PST by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Chelsea tractor=SUV


38 posted on 11/29/2006 8:21:32 AM PST by null and void (To succeed in life, you need three things: a wishbone, a backbone and a funnybone. --Reba McEntire)
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Prof Lovelock, who last night gave the 5th John Collier Lecture to the Institution of Chemical Engineers in London, said: "There is very good evidence of what happened 55 million years ago when as much carbon dioxide was put into the atmosphere by geology as is being done by us now.

"It is something quiet beyond humans at this stage in their evolution."

"Temperatures zoomed up by 8 degrees and stayed there for 200,000 years then came back to normal."

Someone has been educated w-a-a-a-a-a-y beyond his intelligence.
Modern technology in the hands of intellectual apes.
At least he could try to appear consistent.

It has been "normal" for only" 10,000 years.
Check.

Humans can't dream of competing with natural geologic and climate processes.
Check.

It was way worse 55 million years ago, and it stayed that way for 200,000 years, totally independent of any interference by man.
That, incidentally, is 40 times the length of time for which we know of "modern man"'s history.
Check.

If there is a point to this clown's rantings, it sort of gets lost in the sea of hyperble. If he, in his "personal opinion", has a "plan" other than a 90% reduction in population, I fail to see it. Or how that would help the oter 90%.
Is this just a fancy way to say bend over and kiss your butts good-bye? I coulda figured that out all by myself!

39 posted on 11/29/2006 8:24:12 AM PST by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Wonder why this didn't happen when Greenland was green?


40 posted on 11/29/2006 8:25:08 AM PST by Tarpon
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To: edcoil

Actually, he says the earth will reduce its population by 90%.


41 posted on 11/29/2006 8:25:43 AM PST by Vicomte13 (Aure entuluva.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

What a pantload! "Billions of people will die over the next century...". Big deal! The current population of the earth is 6.5 billion. Over the next century, at least 99% (myself included) will die. Ergo about 6 billion people will die over the next 100 years. It is nature's way.


42 posted on 11/29/2006 8:30:38 AM PST by catman67
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I'm sure this guy is going to lock himself in his air conditioned bunker for the nexr century while the rest of us rats die horribly.

With a personal nuclear plant, he could do it, too!

43 posted on 11/29/2006 8:30:47 AM PST by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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I'm sure this guy is going to lock himself in his air conditioned bunker for the nexr century while the rest of us rats die horribly.

With a personal nuclear plant, he could do it, too!

44 posted on 11/29/2006 8:30:50 AM PST by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

mark to read later


45 posted on 11/29/2006 8:33:28 AM PST by Overseez
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To: jveritas

Yes, and all the while they are getting paid and respected as if they were real scientists instead of moonies with PHDs.


46 posted on 11/29/2006 8:33:49 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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47 posted on 11/29/2006 8:34:14 AM PST by LexBaird (98% satisfaction guaranteed. There's just no pleasing some people.)
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To: darkwing104
Dude...Global cooling is becoming the new hip trend. You are like, so 15 minutes ago...

There are a pair of very credible solar scientists who relate recent global heating to extremely high sunspot cycles over the last 40 years. They say we have one more high cycle in 5 years, but then the next two or three 11-year solar cycles will be extremely low. The last time we had this happen was during the Little Ice Age:

"During the period 1645–1715, right in the middle of the Little Ice Age, solar activity as seen in sunspots was extremely low, with some years having no sunspots at all. This period of low sunspot activity is known as the Maunder Minimum."

---from Wikipedia

48 posted on 11/29/2006 8:37:56 AM PST by DJtex
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...women and minorities hardest hit...


49 posted on 11/29/2006 8:38:23 AM PST by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Billions of people could be wiped out over the next century because of climate change, a leading expert said.

What ever happened to Nuclear Winter, for it surely will come in the near futiure, now that the crazies have weapons of mass destrucion?

50 posted on 11/29/2006 8:45:38 AM PST by itsahoot (If the GOP does not do something about immigration, immigration will do something about the GOP)
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