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Orson Scott Card: Doonesbury vs. America [OSC debunks Trudeau comparing Bush and Clinton]
The Ornery American ^ | November 19, 2006 | Orson Scott Card

Posted on 11/30/2006 9:32:18 AM PST by Tolik

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To: Gingersnap; popdonnelly

Trudeau or what his name is just an excuse for Card to go after very much typical leftist Bush hating distortion of reality. I don't read that comic neither.


21 posted on 11/30/2006 10:09:20 AM PST by Tolik
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To: ConservativeMind

Which one? Card - specific, or general Nailed It! list?


22 posted on 11/30/2006 10:10:49 AM PST by Tolik
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To: Tolik

Now -that- is moral clarity.


23 posted on 11/30/2006 10:15:03 AM PST by Alexander Rubin (Octavius - You make my heart glad building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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To: Tolik
Is it possible he really wants to live in a world in which terrorists can plot with impunity because government has no power to try to intercept their communications in advance or question anybody who does not already want to tell us information?

Yes, because he thinks that he, being an enlightened Bush-hater, is protected from harm; the barbarians will attack only the icky rednecks.

24 posted on 11/30/2006 10:24:33 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Tolik
I think that Bush's real crime, in their eyes, is that while on the surface he's definitely not an intellectual as measured by today's elitists, he is in fact far smarter than his critics, and he is a far better President than any of their darlings like the moral cretins and intellectual stumblers that ran against him in 2000 and 2004, or the supposedly brilliant Rhodes Scholar do-nothing who preceded him for eight years of breathtaking incompetence in foreign affairs.

Cannot be repeated often enough! IMHO.

Once again O.S.C. NAILS IT!

25 posted on 11/30/2006 10:24:47 AM PST by cuz_it_aint_their_money
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert
Here's the cartoon (if the link works). Regardless of anything else, it's pretty dramatic evidence of how Trudeau's been phoning it in for years.


26 posted on 11/30/2006 10:28:12 AM PST by Dont Mention the War (Giuliani '08: Why not p. o. BOTH sides?)
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To: Tolik

***Does anybody here remember when Doonesbury was funny? ***

Doonesbury? What is a Doonesbury?

I have been reading newspapers for 40 years and don't remember a funny doonesbury.


27 posted on 11/30/2006 10:29:57 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert

I have to tell you... that is one terrific column! As a cartoonist (who knows almost all the other cartoonists) I can say, firmly, that the bulk of my collegues are merely cynical, ill-informed snobs!


28 posted on 11/30/2006 10:30:10 AM PST by cartoonistx
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To: Tolik

Please add me to the Orson list. Thanks!


29 posted on 11/30/2006 10:30:18 AM PST by Dont Mention the War (Giuliani '08: Why not p. o. BOTH sides?)
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To: Tolik

My son loves his books. Please tell me this is an author that I can tell my son good things about.


30 posted on 11/30/2006 10:30:52 AM PST by luckystarmom
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To: Tolik
Outstanding article.

BTTT

Cheers,

knewshound

http://www.knewshound.blogspot.com/
31 posted on 11/30/2006 10:30:58 AM PST by knews_hound (Sarcastically blogging since 2004.)
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To: Tolik
This article, IMHO, depicts the true differences between liberals and conservatives. (Please note that I did not use 'Republican' and 'Democrat'.)

Liberals perpetuate their ideals through half-truths and 'common beliefs' stated in bumper-sticker wisdom in the comic pages.

Conservatives state their opinions, and the facts, and clearly differentiate between the two in well-thought-out opinion columns.

To me, it's unfortunate millions more people will not only read the comic, but also can't be bothered to read a multi-page column, even if they had access to it.

32 posted on 11/30/2006 10:31:25 AM PST by wbill
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To: Dont Mention the War

Hilarious. I'm in stiches.


33 posted on 11/30/2006 10:34:27 AM PST by Lucas McCain
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To: Tolik

fantastic article!


34 posted on 11/30/2006 10:35:32 AM PST by connor_in (opus & bill 2008)
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To: Tolik

Well worth the read.


35 posted on 11/30/2006 10:45:10 AM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Tolik; RhoTheta
We are winning the War against Terror -- or would be, if our enemies did not keep getting such constant encouragement from our deeply stupid and short-sighted "intellectual" elite.

I'm convinced that every time a Liberal makes a public statement against the war, they prolong it by a non-specific amount of time. Just for the sake of argument, let's assume the following:

Recognizable Member of the press:    1 hour
Recognizable celebrity:    1 day
Recognizable politician:    1 week

If you add up the various people and their multitude of statements, it adds up to a lot of extra time fighting and dying.

I know it's all hypothetical, and reasonable people can debate the actual amount of time, relative weight of the statements, etc., but you have to ask yourself:

How much time has this current war in Iraq been extended because of this sedition?

How many people are dead or injured that otherwise wouldn't have been?

How do we hold these traitors accountable?


36 posted on 11/30/2006 10:50:26 AM PST by Egon (I stand beside you as your partner, in front as your defender, behind as... hey! nice butt!)
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To: RebelBanker
(I found Ender Wiggins to be violently annoying)

I don't like Ender very much either, but have you tried the Ender's Shadow parallel sequence? I can read those over and over. The Women of Genesis series is great too.

37 posted on 11/30/2006 11:08:05 AM PST by nina0113
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
I have been reading newspapers for 40 years and don't remember a funny doonesbury.

There WAS once a funny one - back when Uncle Duke the druggie was the team doctor for the Redskins, and cooked up some pharma cocktail to give a player. Some assistant said, "But won't that turn him into a homicidal psychopath?" And Duke responded, "He's a linebacker! Who'll notice?"

I think that was back in the late 70's. Trudeau's been around for a long, long time.

38 posted on 11/30/2006 11:12:21 AM PST by nina0113
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To: Tolik

Nice and comprehensive piece.

On the Clinton impeachment, it really is unfortunate that so much of Whitewater is seeping into the "Memory Hole." It's difficult to remember all of the details, but I'll try just to add some focus on Mr. Trudeau's attempt to scapegoat Bubba altogether.

Impeachment charges were finally brought forward when it became crystal clear that Clinton had perjured himself in the Paula Jones case/deposition. In many ways, this short-circuited what could have been and should have been much more serious charges that were all pulled under the umbrella of the Ken Starr Special Prosecutor. Many of those "issues" (Chinagate, FBI-filegate, Lippo-gate, campaign-coffee fund-raisers, no-controlling-legal authority, etc. etc. etc.) were all essentially dropped in favor of the obvious perjury, suborning perjury from others and lying to investigators charges that became the basis of the impeachment. And goofs like Lindsay Graham wouldn't even vote impeachment on the perjury charge because "the Paula Jones issue" had been ruled upon (at the time) and therefore it was "moot" according to Mr. Graham. What a stooge!

Later: Ken Starr would have to wrap up his investigation because it had just gone on too long. In his report (or actually Robert Ray's) was the allegation that Mrs. Clinton (future Demo presidential candidate extraordinaire) was shown to be lying but given the low probability that it would hold up for a conviction in court, the charge wasn't pursued and the many other misdeeds of the Clinton Administration were just allowed to "go away". Meanwhile, Susan Webber Wright, who had refused to rule on Clinton's perjury and ruled against Paula Jones prior to impeachment, waited for the Senate to give Bubba a pass before bringing the case back up, ruling in Paula Jones' favor, awarding $850,000 that Bubba's supporters paid, and calling for Bubba to be disbarred. I wonder why Gary Trudeau doesn't bring up any of these matters.

Others with a better memory than me may want to correct, edit or expand on some of what I've written here. Unfortunately, the nation's memory is not good and this story is seeping into that MSM Memory Hole.


39 posted on 11/30/2006 11:13:58 AM PST by ReleaseTheHounds
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To: luckystarmom

Here's the biography he wrote of his son, who died of cerebral palsy a few years ago. Judge for yourself what kind of man wrote it.

http://www.hatrack.com/misc/charlie/bio.shtml


40 posted on 11/30/2006 11:31:14 AM PST by nina0113
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