What About Clinton and Kosovo? Get Over 'Bush Lied' Nonsense

Human Events ^ | December.1, 2006 | Larry Elder

[Tzimisce]

Someone has been reading my blogs!

I remember the left talked about death camps and all the other things the Serbs were supposedly doing. And when we get over there we find none of it.

[cricket]

Am afraid, Bush is too late smart on this one. . .myths have their own powerful realities. His first mistake was ignoring the 'myth-making' of the Left re the Election and the Florida debaucle. . .

Recreating reality. ..and the history it frames; is something the Left does because the 'truth' is their first enemy. . .they refashion truth into their own image. . .using 'body snatching' tools of political correctness and of course, they always keep their 'lies' close by, to rely on.

[LjubivojeRadosavljevic]

["The latest evidence suggests that fewer than 3,000 Kosovars were murdered -- horrifying, yes, but not many more than the number of Serbs who were killed by NATO bombing attacks on Yugoslavia, roughly estimated between 3,000 and 5,000 soldiers and civilians." ]

We can refer to the same thing in Bosnia. The BBC consistently reports that 250,000 people were killed. In fact, it's no where even close to the BBC's claim during the Civil War.

Of course Hoppy would disagree with my argument to build his case against Gen. Mladic.

[TigersEye]

P.S. x42i also promised troops to be home from Bosnia by Christmas. Was it a Lie ? Maybe not, he never said in what year.

Oh no. I remember watching him on TV and hearing from his own mouth "I promise the troops will all be home one year from now." I believe that was in the fall of '99. He used the word 'promise' and he said it like it was his most solemn vow. I'm sure it was too, knowing he was lying as he spoke the words, that is his best effort.

[Pajamajan]

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[Condor51]

Kosovo was an illegal war under all definitions and a such, Bill Klintoon and 'his general' Weasel Clark are war criminals. The indiscriminate bombing (and with 'dumb bombs' no less), from 35,000 feet was a Crime Against Humanity and the funding and arming of the terrorist KLA was treasonous.

It is Willard and the Weasel who should have been sitting in the dock in The Hague, NOT Slobo!

[T. Jefferson]

"The boys will be home by Christmas" was the quote I remember. He just didn't say what year! Clinton went to war as a partner with Bin Laden and drug running Islam terrorists to kill Serbian Christians and seize land from them, ignoring the war powers act in the process. He should have been impeached, indicted, and thrown in jail for that one.

[Hoplite]

Bill Klintoon and 'his general' Weasel Clark are war criminals.

Feel free to take your argument to it's logical conclusion and call for the prosecution of those servicemen who actually perpetrated your imaginary war crimes - the pilots of the USAF, USN, and USMC.

[FormerLib]

As every day goes by, Hoplite, more people realize that the American people were misled into supporting your beloved but murderous Muslim Albanian terrorists.

Did you really think you could keep the truth buried forever, Dhimmi?

And Serbia, with her national borders still encompassing Kosovo, moves closer to partenship with NATO.

[LjubivojeRadosavljevic]

["Feel free to take your argument to it's logical conclusion and call for the prosecution of those servicemen who actually perpetrated your imaginary war crimes - the pilots of the USAF, USN, and USMC."]

So what does your verbose comment have to do with the price of eggs in Denmark?

In short, servicemen are not responsible for policy decision makers...and you should know that.

[TigersEye]

I tried to Google up the quote I was thinking of. You may have heard one press bite and I heard another. Hard to say. It occurred to me that the promise I was thinking of was about troops in Bosnia not Kosovo. I distinctly remember him promising that we would be completely out in one year. Seemed like it was in the fall when he said it.

He should have been tried for treason and hung for Chinagate.

[Hoplite]

In short, servicemen are not responsible for policy decision makers...and you should know that.

The Nuremburg defence?

You're joking, right?

Tell you what - why don't you identify specifically what actions or events you'd consider war crimes in reference to the prosecution of Operation Allied Force, and we can take it from there, m'kay?

You're so out of your depth here it's not even funny.

[LjubivojeRadosavljevic]

["The Nuremburg defence? You're joking, right?"]

Well not really. I never viewed, for example, Herman Goering as a simple soldier (serviceman). Rather I view him as KEY POLICY DECISION MAKER in terms of executing a war. Big difference.

[Hoplite]

Why don't you identify specifically what actions or events you'd consider war crimes in reference to the prosecution of Operation Allied Force, and we can take it from there, m'kay?

[FormerLib]

Giving the order to bomb innocent civilians in order to protect Muhammedan terrorists.

The accused is none other than your hero, Bill Clinton.

M'kay?

Not only did he kill a lot of Christians, but he made those kneepads you wear fashionable.

[LjubivojeRadosavljevic]

["Why don't you identify specifically what actions or events you'd consider war crimes in reference to the prosecution of Operation Allied Force, and we can take it from there, m'kay?"]

Nice to see that gave your previous post a thorough revision.

However, you are directing your question in the wrong direction.

Feel free to find where I ever expressed views that would implicate US "servicemen" as "war criminals" in the events surrounding Operation Allied Force...I'll save you time...you won't find any.

Further, I don't consider General Wesley Clark (Supreme Allied Commander of Europe - NATO) to be a "serviceman" Rather he's is (was) a "policy maker."

[FormerLib]

Nice to see that gave your previous post a thorough revision.

Hoppy gives everything a thorough revision, including reality and his sexuality.

[Hoplite]

Feel free to find where I ever expressed views that would implicate US "servicemen" as "war criminals" in the events surrounding Operation Allied Force...I'll save you time...you won't find any.

Then come out and say that no war crimes were committed by NATO during Allied Force and I'll consider the matter closed with you.

Further, I don't consider General Wesley Clark (Supreme Allied Commander of Europe - NATO) to be a "serviceman" Rather he's is (was) a "policy maker."

Everybody's entitled to an opinion, regardless of whether it's informed or not.

[LjubivojeRadosavljevic]

["Everybody's entitled to an opinion, regardless of whether it's informed or not."]

The SACEUR and Secretary General of NATO both hold "HEAD OF STATE" status, so as to be able to cut through red tape and contact anyone in the world in order to hold the Alliance together.

That, in my mind, puts General Clark above the level of "serviceman."

[Hoplite]

That, in my mind, puts General Clark above the level of "serviceman."

If he's wearing an American military uniform, regardless of what position he's holding, he reports to someone, and serves at their pleasure.

Your ignorance of our military chain of command is just a distraction, however, as you're avoiding the question of whether you consider any of the actions carried out by NATO during Operation Allied Force war crimes.