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1 posted on 12/02/2006 1:20:08 PM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

As usual liberals targeted the wrong person.


2 posted on 12/02/2006 1:22:51 PM PST by AZRepublican ("The degree in which a measure is necessary can never be a test of the legal right to adopt it.")
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To: Sub-Driver

Another freaking leak, probably twisted out of context in a fashion reminiscent of the Treason Media - please, Hank Greenberg, speed up your takeover bid for the NY Slimes.


3 posted on 12/02/2006 1:23:19 PM PST by rfp1234 (I've had it up to my keyster with these leaks!!! - - - Ronald Reagan)
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let's see what (if) Rumsfeld says about this publicly.

they actually have what they claim is the text of the memo.


4 posted on 12/02/2006 1:24:34 PM PST by oceanview
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Are we ever going to prosecute leakers? The Dept. of Justice needs to haul these reporters in and throw them in jail if they don't reveal their sources.


5 posted on 12/02/2006 1:24:35 PM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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Apparently, "classified" just doesn't mean anything at all anymore.


6 posted on 12/02/2006 1:24:42 PM PST by Thrusher ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace.")
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read the text of the actual memo (as opposed to the interpretation).

the ideas presented are not that bad. and we sure as hell need some new ideas over there.


8 posted on 12/02/2006 1:26:34 PM PST by oceanview
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Read the actual memo, it reads nothing like how the Times describes it.


14 posted on 12/02/2006 1:41:17 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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NYTIMES.....LEAK of a memo.

I am not paying attention.


17 posted on 12/02/2006 1:47:57 PM PST by Txsleuth (Bolton/Cheney (that would be Lynne) 08)
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As soon as I saw this was a NYT report I stopped reading.

Perhaps the only reason NYT is not "belly up" is because the NY citizens are using the paper for bird cages, toilet paper and such.


23 posted on 12/02/2006 1:53:31 PM PST by Tannerone (FEED ALL TERRORIST LIVE AND OTHERWISE TO STARVED HOGS)
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What the Slimes opined,"Donald H. Rumsfeld submitted a classified memo to the White House that acknowledged that the Bush administration’s strategy in Iraq was not working and called for a major course correction."

What Rumsfeld actually said,“Clearly, what U.S. forces are currently doing in Iraq is not working well enough or fast enough.”
25 posted on 12/02/2006 1:54:42 PM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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Interesting.


26 posted on 12/02/2006 1:54:45 PM PST by Prodigal Son
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A Congressional "probe" of the New York Slimes is way overdue. It's time to find out the names of the pedophiles and drug addicts working in the U.S. government who are leaking "classified" information to America's enemies employed at the NY Slimes.


35 posted on 12/02/2006 2:10:25 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (The first act of any war should be to shoot all the politicians.)
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Conduct an accelerated draw-down of U.S. bases. We have already reduced from 110 to 55 bases. Plan to get down to 10 to 15 bases by April 2007, and to 5 bases by July 2007....

That is very interesting...


38 posted on 12/02/2006 2:15:33 PM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Welcome Home, son! You and your comrades are our heroes!))
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Two days before he resigned as defense secretary, Donald H. Rumsfeld submitted a classified memo to the White House ...

But we're the New York Times and we publish anything we please.

48 posted on 12/02/2006 2:32:10 PM PST by aculeus
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Why don't administration officials just have their own blog websites, and post their memos to POTUS there, so we all get them in real time, rather than having to wait for a day or two or three for them to "leak?" It is SO annoying.


56 posted on 12/02/2006 3:10:09 PM PST by Torie
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There is only one corse of action in Iraq.

BEAT THE PANTS OFF THEM!

The strategy from word go was to establish a US "friendly" covernment in Iraq. Draw the islamic terrorists into Iraq so we fight them there not here. Then use Iraq and Afghanistan to put pressure on Iran (especially) and other islamic nations. Hopefully that pressure would encourage the locals to rise up against Tehran and he mullahs.

I don't think I need to be obvious in being specific as to what the end result would be.

prisoner6

60 posted on 12/02/2006 3:32:23 PM PST by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts hold the country together as the loose screws of the Left fall out.)
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I love Donald Rumsfeld and his no-nonsense demeanor, but the only big miscalculation that he and the president both made was their underestimation of the enemy. Not the enemy in Iraq, mind you, but the enemy within the US. We trounced the Iraqis militarily, but because of the unprecedented access to Iraq that we permitted the media to have, they were able to wage an unrelenting campaign against the war by continuing to report gloom and doom and harp about the casualties.

Once we'd made the decision to go to war, we should have banned the media from the combat zone, and continued to enforce that ban wherever our soldiers were in combat. We should also have taken much more vigorous measures against leakers and publishers of classified information here at home, rather than permit these agents provocateurs to faciliate breaches of our national security.

It's obvious that the presence of an anti-American MSM in Iraq has had a "chilling effect" on the kinds of initiatives that we could have taken against the enemy. We should also have used complete and unrelenting force (i.e., total annihilation, regardless of the potential for civilian casualties) against the Sadrists and insurgents from the very beginning in this media-free environment, instead of hoping that they would "play nice" in a democracy. No war has ever been truly won with half-measures.

We would NEVER have won WWII had the media had the kind of access that they've had in this war. Only through the malevolent eyes of the anti-American MSM could such a resounding military victory be protrayed as a "failure". We should never have trusted them, from the beginning.


63 posted on 12/02/2006 3:40:26 PM PST by Deo et Patria
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The article also gives the link to the actual memo ( so they say).


Rumsfeld’s Memo of Options for Iraq War


http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/03/world/middleeast/03mtext.html


Following is the text of a classified Nov. 6 memorandum that Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld sent to the White House suggesting new options in Iraq. The memorandum was sent one day before the midterm Congressional elections and two days before Mr. Rumsfeld resigned.


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It's way past time to find, try, convict and jail those who keep leaking classified information to the NYT. Why does the NYT have the FULL TEXT of the memo?!


64 posted on 12/02/2006 3:44:39 PM PST by FairOpinion
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Obviously the memo shouldn't have been leaked.

But it certaily illustrates that Rumsfeld had good ideas and it's really too bad he was made to resign.

Here is a good advice from the Rummy memo:

"Stop rewarding bad behavior, as was done in Fallujah when they pushed in reconstruction funds, and start rewarding good behavior. Put our reconstruction efforts in those parts of Iraq that are behaving, and invest and create havens of opportunity to reward them for their good behavior. As the old saying goes, “If you want more of something, reward it; if you want less of something, penalize it.” No more reconstruction assistance in areas where there is violence. "


65 posted on 12/02/2006 3:47:22 PM PST by FairOpinion
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Maybe Rumsfeld suggested we kick the lawyers out of the Pentagon and stop them from running Iraq.
That would be a start.


78 posted on 12/02/2006 6:52:20 PM PST by miliantnutcase ("If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. If it stops moving, subsidize it." -ichabod1)
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