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Householders face 'pay as you throw' rubbish tax (WTH Alert)
Sunday Times (U.K.) ^ | Dec 2, 2006

Posted on 12/02/2006 5:11:23 PM PST by jdm

THOUSANDS of householders are facing the prospect of paying Britain’s first domestic rubbish tax under an Environment Agency proposal to trial the system in councils across England and Wales, writes Jonathan Leake.

The scheme would see householders charged according to the weight of all non-recyclable waste they put out for collection each week. Green waste — recyclable paper, metal and glass, for example — would still be taken away for free.

The agency’s “pay as you throw” proposal is aimed at breaking a deadlock between government departments that has held up attempts to “green” Britain’s waste disposal system.

Tomorrow, the agency will meet senior civil servants at the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) who are drafting a new national waste strategy.

So far the draft policy has been hampered by disagreements between ministers, with Defra lined up against the Treasury and the Department for Communities and Local Government.

Defra has long supported the idea of “variable charges”, as they are known, but the departments of Gordon Brown and Ruth Kelly fear such charges would have an unfair impact on people with low incomes and so have resisted them.

The Environment Agency is also cautious. It supports the principle of variable charges but fears they could cause a surge in fly-tipping.

Its proposal is that a few local authorities introduce different systems of charging for waste collection with the results monitored for social and environmental impacts.

Liz Parkes, head of waste regulation at the agency, said systems that worked well in middle-class areas might fail in, for example, urban areas dominated by tower blocks. A system of trials would highlight such problems.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: recycle; rubbish; tax; uk; wth
The scheme would see householders charged according to the weight of all non-recyclable waste they put out for collection each week. Green waste — recyclable paper, metal and glass, for example — would still be taken away for free.

WTF?!

1 posted on 12/02/2006 5:11:26 PM PST by jdm
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To: MadIvan; Mrs Ivan
WHAT IS HAPPENING TO YOUR COUNTRY?!

:O)

2 posted on 12/02/2006 5:12:30 PM PST by jdm
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To: jdm

Look for many "unofficial" dump sites to spring up....


3 posted on 12/02/2006 5:15:48 PM PST by poindexter
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To: jdm

well, IIRC rubbish bags were already subject to council tax at their purchase, so implementing some weight scheme might not be too onerous in Airfield One.


4 posted on 12/02/2006 5:17:02 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: jdm

No way will that ever work.


5 posted on 12/02/2006 5:17:58 PM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: poindexter

Expect a lot of basements to fill up too.


6 posted on 12/02/2006 5:25:27 PM PST by Farmer Dean (Every time a toilet flushes,another liberal gets his brains.)
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To: Prodigal Son
No way will that ever work.

I think that a form of this was in place in Germany back in the nineties. Actually it's quite a personal choice concept. The more you put in the recycling bins, the less you pay (extra since your taxes are already paying for the recycled stuff) for your own trash collection. It seems better than having it be against the law with fines at the ready if you don't recycle....such as is the case in some places already.

7 posted on 12/02/2006 5:35:47 PM PST by Freee-dame
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To: poindexter

BINGO!


8 posted on 12/02/2006 5:43:22 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Ever learning . . .)
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To: Freee-dame
The more you put in the recycling bins, the less you pay

Why not fill the recycling bins with busted up, broken down OTHER SMALLER recycling bins? Would you still get to pay less? :)

9 posted on 12/02/2006 5:52:45 PM PST by jdm
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To: jdm

Civilization and Public Health took leaps forward when cities learned to get their waste as far away as possible.

Here's to the decline of European Civilization


10 posted on 12/02/2006 5:56:14 PM PST by Rameumptom (Gen X= they killed 1 in 4 of us)
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To: jdm; All

alas poor England, I knew thee well...


(appologies to Will S.)


England is finished if this continues.


11 posted on 12/02/2006 5:57:16 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: poindexter

That's what was meant by the term "fly-tipping". Tipping on the fly is garbage dumping while out and about.


12 posted on 12/02/2006 6:00:26 PM PST by Don W (Stoneage man survived thousands of years of bitter-cold ice. Modern man WILLsurvive global warming.)
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To: jdm
The more you put in the recycling bins, the less you pay

....a bit out of context. My comment was assuming the same amount of trash. You could walk recyclables to nearby recycling bins for which you did not have to pay a fee or just have it picked up at home for a container-based fee. It was your choice. No one ever knew how much, if anything, you put into the recycling bins. I did not live there. I was told about it while living in a very blue county with fines for not recycling.

13 posted on 12/02/2006 6:11:27 PM PST by Freee-dame
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To: jdm

Wouldn't this just encourage one to deposit their rubbish in the Moslem neighbors bin?

Regards.


14 posted on 12/02/2006 6:26:06 PM PST by ARE SOLE (Just how gay is Al Queda anyway?)
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To: jdm
We have been doing that for awhile now in my town. (Scituate Mass.)

You buy trash bags from the town that are blue with the town name on the bag. They cost a dollar a bag.

When you go to the dump you can put all the recyclables in bins but the food garbage goes in the bags and has to be put into a separate bin.

Usually you use 2-3 bags a week. - tom

15 posted on 12/02/2006 6:40:32 PM PST by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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