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Saudis and Iran prepare to do battle over corpse of Iraq
The Sunday Telegraph ^ | December 3, 2006 | Philip Sherwell

Posted on 12/03/2006 1:32:19 AM PST by MadIvan

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I hope they kill each other, if true.

Regards, Ivan

1 posted on 12/03/2006 1:32:25 AM PST by MadIvan
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To: Mrs Ivan; odds; DCPatriot; Texican; Watery Tart; Deetes; Barset; fanfan; LadyofShalott; Tolik; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 12/03/2006 1:32:47 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan

They'll kill British and American troops before killing each other though


3 posted on 12/03/2006 2:17:51 AM PST by Biscuit85 (I hate CNN!)
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This has been steadily building for a few months. Saudi's king traveled to Turkey to conclude a military cooperation treaty back in September or October.
4 posted on 12/03/2006 2:51:58 AM PST by backtothestreets (Invite Jesus to pray with you.)
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Good job our european allies are falling over themselves to arm the saudi enemy.

A friend of our enemy is our ..... ?


5 posted on 12/03/2006 2:54:31 AM PST by Axlrose
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bump 4 later


6 posted on 12/03/2006 4:04:25 AM PST by prophetic
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"Good job our european allies are falling over themselves to arm the saudi enemy.

A friend of our enemy is our ..... ?"

That's a pretty ridiculous statement considering probably the majority of Saudi military equipment comes from the US (they have F15s, Abrams, patriot missiles iirc).

At which point does your imagination think that the US government has reclassified Saudi Arabia as an enemy? Maybe I missed a news story...


7 posted on 12/03/2006 4:09:22 AM PST by Canard
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Nice try at diversion, all those deals were done when we needed the sauidis for their bases.

Now the french and brits are falling over themselves to appease and arm the saudi enemy.

I wonder what our fine euro allies are up to, i'm sure the only have Americas very best interests at heart !


8 posted on 12/03/2006 4:15:48 AM PST by Axlrose
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To: MadIvan

Really, I was just thinking, hard to choose a side you care to win in this one. Hope it's a tie and they just kill off each other.


9 posted on 12/03/2006 4:16:25 AM PST by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: MadIvan
Anything they try and do by themselves they will try at arms length with money.

They have always kept their military divided and sectionalized to avoid an coup. While they have a lot of hardware, they don't use it.

10 posted on 12/03/2006 4:24:32 AM PST by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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"Really, I was just thinking, hard to choose a side you care to win in this one. Hope it's a tie and they just kill off each other."

The Middle East wouldn't be that bad a place if it got rid of its Muslim problem.


11 posted on 12/03/2006 4:24:57 AM PST by BW2221
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OK, it's time for a new Jim Noble victory plan. Scrub the 80 divisions, the sealift, the missionaries.

Simple 3 steps now.

1) Evacuate the Iraq Expeditionary Force
2) Let Iran and Saudi Arabia fight
3) Nuke the winner.

It's a plan!

12 posted on 12/03/2006 4:34:18 AM PST by Jim Noble (To preserve the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity)
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To: BW2221

Still would be about as bad as death valley with the sand and heat.


13 posted on 12/03/2006 4:36:33 AM PST by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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At which point does your imagination think that the US government has reclassified Saudi Arabia as an enemy?

Nations do not become friends or enemies because of their classification by the US government.

Saudi Arabia is our mortal enemy and will remain so regardless of how many government officials they bribe.

14 posted on 12/03/2006 4:36:46 AM PST by Jim Noble (To preserve the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity)
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Death Vally doesn't have oil.


15 posted on 12/03/2006 4:58:23 AM PST by BW2221
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"all those deals were done when we needed the sauidis for their bases."

Your argument is that the US government is no longer facilitating arms sales to Saudi Arabia? I'd be interested in some evidence.


This is from the US Congress report on arms trade from 2005:

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/weapons/RL33696.pdf

"For the period from 2002-2005, Saudi Arabia made $8.9 billion in
arms transfer agreements. Its major suppliers were the four major
West European suppliers collectively ($4.5 billion), and the United
States ($4.2 billion)"

When I go to the latest page showing potential US arms sales deals notified to Congress (http://www.dsca.osd.mil/pressreleases/36-b/36b_index.htm), I can see various ones concerning Saudi Arabia. Eg:

http://www.dsca.osd.mil/pressreleases/36-b/2006/Saudi%20Arabia_06-25.pdf
http://www.dsca.osd.mil/pressreleases/36-b/2006/Saudi%20Arabia_06-39.pdf
http://www.dsca.osd.mil/pressreleases/36-b/2006/Saudi%20Arabia_06-52.pdf
http://www.dsca.osd.mil/pressreleases/36-b/2006/Saudi%20Arabia_06-59.pdf

Interestingly all of them contain the same sentence:

"This proposed sale will contribute to the foreign policy and national security of the United States (U.S.) by helping to improve the security of a friendly country that has been and continues to be an important force for political stability and economic process in the Middle East."

And the latest one was about three weeks ago. Maybe the change in US policy that you are speaking of has just occured in the last three weeks?


16 posted on 12/03/2006 5:13:30 AM PST by Canard
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To: Jim Noble

"Nations do not become friends or enemies because of their classification by the US government.

Saudi Arabia is our mortal enemy and will remain so regardless of how many government officials they bribe."

Interesting. Presumably that puts you in a difficult position as you would have to include the current US administration as an enemy too?


17 posted on 12/03/2006 5:15:45 AM PST by Canard
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To: Canard

I've heard that SA's air forces are pretty good, and some (many?) of their pilots are top notch, but I've never had the impression their ground forces are exactly fearsome.

Am I wrongly informed?


18 posted on 12/03/2006 5:19:46 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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"Saudi Arabia, America's closest ally in the Arab world, is considering backing anti-US insurgents .."


"Ally"?

Nope, just showing their true colors one more time.


19 posted on 12/03/2006 5:45:29 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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"I've heard that SA's air forces are pretty good, and some (many?) of their pilots are top notch..."

Perhaps....maybe they're a 7 or 8 on a scale of 1-10.

But considering our guys are a 10 on a scale of 1-10 that pretty much means the Saudi air force would be lying in a bunch of smoldering craters in no time at all.
20 posted on 12/03/2006 5:49:01 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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