Posted on 12/05/2006 4:51:23 AM PST by shrinkermd
...All this illustrates the privileged status that many Muslims expect in the international arena. When Muslims conquer non-Muslim territories — such as Constantinople, not to mention all of North Africa, Spain and southwest Asia — those whom they have conquered as well as their descendants are not to expect any apologies, let alone political or territorial concessions.
Herein lies the conundrum. When Islamists wage jihad — past, present and future — conquering and consolidating non-Muslim territories and centers in the name of Islam, never once considering to cede them back to their previous owners, they ultimately demonstrate that they live by the age-old adage "might makes right." That's fine; many people agree with this Hobbesian view.
But if we live in a world where the strong rule and the weak submit, why is it that whenever Muslim regions are conquered, such as in the case of Palestine, the same Islamists who would never concede one inch of Islam's conquests resort to the United Nations and the court of public opinion, demanding justice, restitutions, rights and so forth?
Put another way, when Muslims beat infidels, it's just too bad for the latter; they must submit to their new overlords' rules with all the attendant discrimination and humiliation mandated for non-Muslims. Yet when Islam is beaten, demands for apologies and concessions are expected from the infidel world at large
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Islam causes stagnation in personal growth and cultural growth, keeping its fervent adherents and their society in an infantile state.
The rest of the world has evolved into what, compared to islam, seems like adulthood.
When adults deal with children as equals, they get what the world gets with islam. Whining, demanding, childish victims
Good! But how did it get in the LA Times?
He left out the slaughter and rape of those who had taken refuge within the Hagia Sophia, the desecration of its crypts. The place was a charnel house.
Mrs VS
Muslims. The bully brats of planet earth.
But...But... But ... Mr. Bush says Islam is a religion of
Peace. That the Muslims pray to the same God we do. That
we all just Kum ba ya.
Wow! This was in the LA Times! Hard to believe.
That's quite a good analogy!
I only quibble with one word: dhimmi as applied to Pope Benedict XVI. Ten thousand demonstrators and the radical Muslim clerics told him not to come, and he came. He was warned not to set foot in Hagia Sophia or he'd be shot, and he went to Hagia Sophia. He wore his cross in the Blue Mosque, and touched it while he prayed. Always courteous, he returned more than once to his requirement that there should be full reciprocity, which he linked to the question of whether Turkey should be in the EU. That's not blowing smoke: that's talking turkey.
Infallibility is NOT a quality that pertains to papal diplomacy; far from it. But Josef Ratzinger is a man of demonstrated toughness and intelligence--- Oriana Fallaci could see that --- and he's a chess player, as well.
Watch and see.
Thx.
Time for the west to wake up and see what we are dealing with. Good post.
Can't believe this was in the LA Times. Maybe there is Hope...
Saudi Arabia - Conversion by a Muslim to another religion is punishable by death. Bibles are illegal. Churches are illegal.
Yemen - Bans proselytizing by non-Muslims and forbids conversions. The Government does not allow the building of new non-Muslim places of worship.
Kuwait - Registration and licensing of religious groups. Members of religions not sanctioned in the Koran may not build places of worship. Prohibits organized religious education for religions other than Islam.
Egypt - Islam is the official state religion and primary source of legislation. Accordingly, religious practices that conflict with Islamic law are prohibited. Muslims may face legal problems if they convert to another faith. Requires non-Muslims to obtain what is now a presidential decree to build a place of worship.
Algeria - The law prohibits public assembly for purposes of practicing a faith other than Islam. Non-Islamic proselytizing is illegal, and the Government restricts the importation of non-Islamic literature for distribution.
Jordan - Has the death penalty for any Muslim selling land to a Jew.
Sudan - Conversion by a Muslim to another religion is punishable by death.
Pakistan - Conversion by a Muslim to another religion is punishable by death. Bans proselytizing by non-Muslims. Christians regularly put in prison for charges of blasphemy. Islam is the state religion, and in a court of law the testimony of a Christian carries less weight than that of a Muslim. Section 295(c) of the Penal Code calls for a death sentence for anyone who defiles the name of the Prophet Muhammad and requires the testimony of four Muslims for a conviction. This fosters an environment in which Muslims can feel free to use intimidation and violence against religious minorities for personal gain.
Qatar - Islamic instruction is compulsory in public schools. The government regulates the publication, importation, and distribution of non-Islamic religious literature. The government continues to prohibit proselytizing of Muslims by non-Muslims.
Malaysia - Under Malaysian law, any convert to Christianity must apply to a shariah (Muslim law) court to legally renounce Islam. Many Christians prefer to remain silent converts rather than take their battle to the shariah courts, where apostasy or conversion out of Islam is punishable by whipping, fines, imprisonment and--in the most extreme application--death.
The Maldives - In the island paradise visited by tens of thousands of tourists each year, Christianity is simply not tolerated. While local Christians – said to number around 300 out of a total population of 300,000 – do get together to worship, they do so at the risk of imprisonment or worse if discovered by the Muslim authorities. Bibles are banned, and tourists can be arrested for trying to bring them into the country.
http://www.state.gov/g/drl/hr/
A must read.
Quote " Islam causes stagnation in personal growth and cultural growth, keeping its fervent adherents and their society in an infantile state. " endQuote
Is there anyone else besides a religious leader that is admired in Islamic countries?
No actors/actress, music stars, comedians, ect.
That's why islam means submission.
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