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Bush Reaction to Report Worries Father's Aides
US News & World Report ^ | December 8 2006 | Kenneth T. Walsh

Posted on 12/08/2006 10:27:04 AM PST by jmc1969

Former White House advisers to George H.W. Bush are keenly disappointed and concerned about the current President Bush's initial reaction to the report by the Iraq Study Group.

They consider him rather dismissive of the group's conclusions, issued yesterday, which include the view that current Iraq policy is failing. The group recommends a variety of important changes, such as assigning U.S. troops to play more of an advisory and training role and less of a combat role. The ISG also recommends that the United States withdraw most of its combat brigades by early 2008 and that the administration increase diplomatic efforts, including starting talks with Iran and Syria and energetically working toward an Israeli-Palestinian solution.

Adding to the unease were President Bush's comments at his Thursday news conference with British Prime Minister Tony Blair, in which he avoided commenting on specifics in the ISG report.

"We have a classic case of circling the wagons," says a former adviser to Bush the elder. "If President Bush changes his policy in Iraq in a fundamental way, it undermines the whole premise of his presidency. I just don't believe he will ever do that."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 1938; appeasementdeluxe; backtookinawa; bakerboys; bipartisansellout; cutandrun; fauxrealism; hightailitouttathere; iraqstudygroup; iraqsurrendergroup; isq; munich; surrendertojihad
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1 posted on 12/08/2006 10:27:09 AM PST by jmc1969
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To: jmc1969

What an @$$hole and a coward! Sure, just throw the President under the bus, and support the Surrender Monkeys, anonymously!


2 posted on 12/08/2006 10:29:07 AM PST by Justice4Reds
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To: jmc1969
They consider him rather dismissive of the group's conclusions

And W is the dumb one, right? Most of the groups conclusions are dumb and utter garbage. W is right to be dismissive.

3 posted on 12/08/2006 10:29:56 AM PST by frogjerk (REUTERS: We give smoke and mirrors a bad name)
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To: jmc1969

If these clowns are keenly disappointed, then I'm keenly satisfied.


4 posted on 12/08/2006 10:30:03 AM PST by Chi-townChief
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To: jmc1969
They consider him rather dismissive of the group's conclusions

Good


5 posted on 12/08/2006 10:30:16 AM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: jmc1969
Former White House advisers to George H.W. Bush are keenly disappointed and concerned about the current President Bush's initial reaction to the report by the Iraq Study Group.

So sad, too bad...

6 posted on 12/08/2006 10:30:43 AM PST by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: jmc1969

He should have used it to clean up after Barney..........


7 posted on 12/08/2006 10:30:48 AM PST by Red Badger (New! HeadOn Hemorrhoid Medication for Liberals!.........Apply directly to forehead.........)
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To: jmc1969
"They consider him rather dismissive of the group's conclusions..."

Maybe because he knows they are junk.

8 posted on 12/08/2006 10:31:01 AM PST by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: Victoria Delsoul
They consider him rather dismissive of the group's conclusions, issued yesterday,

Best news I have read in a few days! ;-)

9 posted on 12/08/2006 10:31:17 AM PST by HitmanLV (Rock, Rock, Rock and Rollergames! Rockin' & Rolling, Rockin' with Rollergames!)
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To: jmc1969

Oh, Really?

Well, I'LL be disappointed if he follows their suggestion of talking to the Iranians and Syrians.


10 posted on 12/08/2006 10:32:28 AM PST by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business] (...but his head is so tiny...))
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To: Red Badger

Theres even enough of it for Mrs. Beasley and the kitty!


11 posted on 12/08/2006 10:32:43 AM PST by dforest
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To: jmc1969

W is one of the few that see the dark clouds on the horizon.


12 posted on 12/08/2006 10:32:46 AM PST by kinghorse (calls them like I sees them)
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To: jmc1969
They consider him rather dismissive of the group's conclusions

And the problem with this is ???

13 posted on 12/08/2006 10:33:28 AM PST by pbear8 (RIP James Kim)
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To: jmc1969

How the hell did we survive 88-92 with so many of these clowns in charge?

My take is that Papa Buss invalidated some of the REALLY REALLY bad policies.

He was POTUS after all.


14 posted on 12/08/2006 10:33:48 AM PST by Killborn (Age of servitude. A government of the traitors, by the liars, for the sheep.)
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To: frogjerk
The Study Group's recommendations for Iraq seem virtually identical to the policies that got us into trouble in Viet Nam as early as the Kennedy regime.

More worrisome, though, is the attitude implicit in the report that the "Missouri Compromise" will continue to work to keep America safe ~

15 posted on 12/08/2006 10:35:05 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: frogjerk

History will show that W was the last president that had a pair.


16 posted on 12/08/2006 10:35:31 AM PST by todd1
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To: kinghorse
W is one of the few that see the dark clouds on the horizon.

And most of Poppy's greedy old cowardly Saudi lackeys are in their twilight years and probably don't care much about what things will be like 10-20 years down the road.

They have little or nothing to offer in the way of worthwhile advice for how we're going to deal with this problem. They did a lot to contribute to the problem in the first place.

17 posted on 12/08/2006 10:37:46 AM PST by jpl
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To: jmc1969

GHWB, crawl back into the shadow of your son, who, hopefully, will NOT be distracted by James Baker, Globalist lawyer to the Saudi Dubais, and Lee Hamilton, a pompous self-important nincompoop.


18 posted on 12/08/2006 10:37:53 AM PST by Paperdoll
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To: jmc1969
They consider him rather dismissive of the group's conclusions

As well he should be, considering many of those conclusions would've made even Neville Chamberlain blush.

19 posted on 12/08/2006 10:38:11 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: jmc1969

This isn't "circling the wagons". It is politely ignoring the ravings of a pack of lunatics. You don't even have to go past the executive summary of the report to see that the the ten wise guys had to be drunk when they wrote it.


20 posted on 12/08/2006 10:38:22 AM PST by Busywhiskers (Strength and honor.)
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To: jmc1969
They consider him rather dismissive of the group's conclusions

Good.

21 posted on 12/08/2006 10:38:22 AM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: jmc1969
Bush Reaction to Report Worries Father's Aides

That's a joke headline right? No one would really write a headline like that would they?

22 posted on 12/08/2006 10:38:23 AM PST by ElkGroveDan ( What does it profit a man to gain the whole world but lose his own soul?)
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To: jmc1969
Bush Reaction to Report Worries Father's Aides

Which aides?

This story is as silly as The Report.

23 posted on 12/08/2006 10:38:34 AM PST by stevem
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To: jmc1969

Here is the King is thinking about stopping payment on his check to James Baker. He thinks that maybe the money is better spent killing more Americans.

24 posted on 12/08/2006 10:38:58 AM PST by heywaitadarnminute
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To: jmc1969
Oh yes, let's all start trashing Bush "the elder" because of a story about impressions of "former white house advisers". Please. I'm quite "dismissive" of this entire story.
25 posted on 12/08/2006 10:39:53 AM PST by rhombus
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To: todd1
History will show that W was the last president that had a pair.

Maybe literally.

26 posted on 12/08/2006 10:39:53 AM PST by The Blitherer (Fight On!)
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To: jmc1969

So if the President doesn't play ball and "see the light" will daddy's "former White House advisers" arrange for him to wake up to a political horse's head in his bed?


27 posted on 12/08/2006 10:40:12 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: jmc1969

"Also, I call your attention to these brilliant Panel Recommendations:

#34: Wash your hands after going to the toilet.

#56: Don't walk into traffic with your eyes closed.

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28 posted on 12/08/2006 10:42:38 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: jmc1969

Funny, I find President Bush's reaction to these appeasers to be immeasurably reassuring.


29 posted on 12/08/2006 10:43:56 AM PST by Piranha
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To: jmc1969

Let's see. Would these be the same "former aides" who advised the elder Bush to turn back before taking Baghdad in the previous Gulf War?


30 posted on 12/08/2006 10:44:14 AM PST by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: nuconvert

There's nothing wrong with talking to the Syrians. We DO have an embassy there for a reason. The fact that it would be futile should be considered.

There is no reason to talk to the Iranians. It's as much in our national interest to attack them as it was to invade Iraq. What we don't have is a series of UN resolutions giving us diplomatic cover, for what it's worth, for doing so.

Talk ain't gonna help.


31 posted on 12/08/2006 10:44:54 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: SkyPilot

#48 Eat 3 servings of leafy green vegetables every day


32 posted on 12/08/2006 10:45:24 AM PST by woofie (This area deemed a failure, Something new and witty will no doubt emerge)
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To: jmc1969
...a former adviser to Bush the elder...

Hmmmm, could that be James Baker???

33 posted on 12/08/2006 10:47:01 AM PST by Syncro
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To: jmc1969
"A former adviser".

Jim Baker himself, I would guess, miffed that the stubborn young Bush just won't throw the Jews under the bus and get on with the Big Boys' plan. I believe there are powerful elements in our foreign service bureaucracy and within the intelligence services that have convinced themselves that the Arabs can effectively be bought off by sacrificing Israel. They don't believe that radical Islam has any claim against the West that can't be satisfied by turning the State of Israel into the People's Islamic Republic of Palestine, while withdrawing from Iraq and from the whole ugly "war on terror" thing while we're at it. The loonies will just shoot their AK-47's wildly in the air for a month or so and then go on about their business. Right.

34 posted on 12/08/2006 10:47:46 AM PST by andy58-in-nh
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To: jmc1969

Best line I heard about this came from Jonah Goldberg. "Washington is a city where it is better to be wrong in a group than right by yourself."

W. does not mind being by himself when that's the right thing.


35 posted on 12/08/2006 10:47:49 AM PST by No Truce With Kings (The opinions expressed are mine! Mine! MINE! All Mine!)
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To: Killborn
I certainly don't know all the ins and outs of the first gulf war, just seems to me had we went after Hussein then we might not had this war to fight today.

JMHO

36 posted on 12/08/2006 10:49:55 AM PST by BARLF
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To: heywaitadarnminute
Here is the King is thinking about stopping payment on his check to James Baker. He thinks that maybe the money is better spent killing more Americans.

Actually the King (or the acting King) at the time helped us with the invasion of Iraq, saving American troop lives. Above that, the Sunni King of S.A. is somebody who shares our interest in not having Iraq dominated by Iran.

The problem is the Saudi and Baker attitude toward Israel, which is one of the problems with this stupid report.

37 posted on 12/08/2006 10:50:42 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: jmc1969
If Bush implemented their recommendations... it would be the beginning of the end of the American Moment in history. No one would ever take America seriously again as a superpower. Cut and Run is not a viable option for protecting our country's interests in a dangerous part of the world. But the Baker Boys are too dense to grasp this.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

38 posted on 12/08/2006 10:50:51 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: MizSterious
Hi Miz

See post 36. Seems I'm not the only one with that idea.

39 posted on 12/08/2006 10:53:34 AM PST by BARLF
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To: jmc1969
From the article: "We have a classic case of circling the wagons," says a former adviser to Bush the elder. "

I wonder who made this comment- Colin Powell?
40 posted on 12/08/2006 10:54:06 AM PST by PerConPat (A politician is an animal which can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground.-- Mencken)
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To: jmc1969
Former White House advisers to George H.W. Bush

Now, there's a group that Dubya should never listen to.

Look what they did for his daddy.

41 posted on 12/08/2006 10:56:48 AM PST by Rum Tum Tugger
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To: MizSterious

Since these "former aides" are nameless, the article may just reflect what its author thinks they feel, or wishes they would feel. A useless article, IMHO.

For W to follow the ISG's major recommendations would be like his father violating his No New Taxes pledge.


42 posted on 12/08/2006 10:57:29 AM PST by Otho
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To: frogjerk

He isn't right to be dismissive.

He should be openly scornful and heartily rejecting.


43 posted on 12/08/2006 10:57:40 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: FreeReign

The King does not do enough to stop members of "his royal family" and others in Saudi from funding the people that are killing Americans.


44 posted on 12/08/2006 10:58:21 AM PST by heywaitadarnminute
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To: jmc1969
Former White House advisers to George H.W. Bush

Lemme guess, they are never named in the article? Probably Scowlcroft and David Gurgle.

45 posted on 12/08/2006 11:02:10 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat (An easy 10-team playoff based on the BCS bowls can be implemented by next year. See my homepage.)
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To: jmc1969
President bush, who professes to be a Born Again Christian has enemies in his own household, so why does that surprise anyone who reads God's word?

"And a man's foes shall be they of his own household." Jesus, Matthew 10:36

46 posted on 12/08/2006 11:03:58 AM PST by thiscouldbemoreconfusing
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To: jmc1969
Trash the report by the White Feather Group. Rid the world of Al Sadr and his mangy army. State publicly that all insurrectionist be shot on sight. Tell dimjonney in Iran that from here on out he is looking down the barrel of an American gun. We CAN negotiate the details from this position.
47 posted on 12/08/2006 11:05:23 AM PST by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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To: BARLF

There's still a lot of argument on that. Personally I think it's a good thing we didn't take him out.

We either let the region rebuild it (Iran, Syria, Saudi) or we do. The President lost in 92, guess who comes in during rebuilding.

That's right. The reason Balkans is so messed up, worse than Iraq it seems, (now there's a real quagmire), is because we were so uniformly one sided it's embarrassing. See how the PResident, our military, and the Iraqis do it? Anyone who steps out of line gets a uniform @$$whupping. Shia, SUnni, Kurd, other than IRaqi, doesn't matter. That's what we should have done there. But NOOO Serbs bad. Serbs must be punished because we are too lazy to actually find other scumbags on the Croat, ALbanian, and Bosnian side.

IF we are going to rebuild and Bush the elder was the one in the White House in 93, we should have taken Saddam. Otherwise, all betts are off.

I can see the toon now, backing up the Shia as a majority while, telling the others to screw off, and letting the whole of Iraq devolves into civil war.

Of course there'd be a news black out from the Monica wannabes in the DEMONcrap ministry of information and propaganda.


48 posted on 12/08/2006 11:07:10 AM PST by Killborn (Age of servitude. A government of the traitors, by the liars, for the sheep.)
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To: BibChr

Look, what is really going on is that James Baker and Brent Scowcroft, Daddy's Enforcers, are trying to install Hug-A-Saudi Realism at State. Condi doesn't want to play ball and they want to toss her under the bus.

Unfortunately for the Dictator of the Month Club, W is President.

The Flavor of the Month is to open up a conference with the Boy President and his patron, the Persian Fuhrer. The ISG report opens up a huge bucket o' worms by assuming that Fascists will help us build Iraqi democracy.

Baker was running around yesterday speaking about Syria being "flipped".

No wonder Condi remained silent. She let McCain and Lieberman open up on this nonsense.

Be Seeing You,

Chris


49 posted on 12/08/2006 11:08:29 AM PST by section9 (Major Motoko Kusanagi says, "Jesus is Coming. Everybody look busy...")
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To: Killborn

We had the entire Iraqi Army in the field during the first war. We could have wiped them out and then had no resistance whatsoever.

Instead in Gulf War 2 we didn't fight the Iraqi Army, we just went into Baghdad and told them all to go home.

The number of troops we had in the first Gulf War was also more then enough to provide security in a country the size of Iraq. The number of troops in the second Gulf War was about half the number needed.


50 posted on 12/08/2006 11:10:39 AM PST by jmc1969
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