3/11: Interview with the Investigator and Journalist Luis del Pino

“The False Islamic Plot has been Created by the Services of the State in Order to Mislead”

On December 11th, the association “Black Pawns” [Peones Negros] will hold another a rally in Salamanca again. This civic movement has the journalist Luis del Pino as one of its intellectual inspirers. Del Pino has become a truly “outsider” of the political information in Spain, as a consequence of his investigation on the 3/11 attacks.

The author of “The Enigmas of 3/11” and “The Lies on 3/11” has been investigating and publishing data since March 2005, that questions the Official Version that is held on the massacre of Madrid.

It is an attack that stands outside any norm and any precedent. What is going now in Spain cannot be explained without 3/11. It is not that 3/11 has taken away legitimacy from this government. What has made the loss of legitimacy is the fact that it has not explained [what happened on] 3/11, which was one of the aspects that mobilized the voters before their victory in the elections.

Only a few of us are investigating 3/11, the rest are, either putting it behind a curtain of silence, or charging against the ones that investigate, but that is something we are used to in this country, it happened in older times, regarding resounding corruption cases. Unfortunately, that points out that there are many journalists who, since a long time ago, have renounced to exercise their role as the Fourth Branch. Instead of that, there are media at the service of the power, and charge against anyone that investigates independently. Each one should come to terms with his journalistic conscience.

What elements did you make suspect that there was something wrong in the attacks?

I think that the same as anyone else. From the first moment after the attack, with the famous appearance of that extravagant coranic tape in a van, the miraculous appearance of a backpack in the Vallecas precinct, the fact itself that it could be carried out in Spain the biggest terrorist massacre in her history without notice and, however, in 48 hours they told us that they have arrested the alleged perpetrators, that later are released within weeks after the objective of changing the result of the elections had been accomplished. It is a sequence of events that induces to suspect that there was something odd. The certainties came as I began to compare the Official Version with the police and judicial investigations themselves from the judicial summary. It is then when the contradictions, lies and manipulations began to come to the surface. In the end, anyone that objectively studies the judicial summary realizes that what they have told us is an immense lie, from beginning to end.

There have been people who deliberately have tried to create confusion around 3/11, but truly it is very simple. On March 11th ten bombs went off in the trains and two others were exploded by the TEDAX [Technicians in Explosive Deactivation]. What should have been done is: analyzing the samples collected in the trains, tell the Spaniards what was what went off, as in any other attack.

Instead of that, they hid from us the reports on the [chemical] analysis, they hid from us the reports on the reconstruction of the electronic devices and began to force us to see further away from the trains. They began to produce evidences outside the trains, four capital evidences, based on which they tried to sell us the Official Version: a Kangoo van where rests of explosive appeared, a backpack in Vallecas full of explosives, a Skoda Fabia car that appeared in Alcalá three months after the attacks and an apartment in Leganés where they tell us that seven people that had something to do with the trains, committed suicide. They tried to convince us that the evidences were far away from the trains. They told us, for instance, that the explosive [used in 3/11] was Goma-2 ECO because outside the trains this explosive had been found.

What they wanted us to know is that it was an Islamic attack and that it was caused by our mistaken foreign policy in relation with the War in Iraq. As time went by, we have been analyzing these evidences and we have proved (I am not telling we have arisen doubts), we have proven according to the data from the judicial summary, that at least two of those capital evidences are false. It is false that the Skoda Fabia was on the morning of 3/11 in Alcalá, we have proved that it was in the hands of the services of the state months before 3/11. That is, it was set there later [after the attack] by the services of the state themselves. And we have proved that in Leganés some organized a theatre play in order to convince us that there were suicides. Someone acted as he were one of them in order to convince us that in that apartment were suicides.

Regarding the other two, the Kangoo van and the backpack of Vallecas, we have put on the table so many signs of falseness, that if we add that the other two capital evidences are forged, we can conclude all four are false. It is absurd that in the van the dogs could not find rests of explosives, obviously there were no rests, but they were set later in the police offices. The backpack was seen by no one in the trains because, simply, it was planted later by people linked to the services of the state. If they sell us an Official Version based in four evidences that are false, it is evident that that the version is false too.

I have been publishing dozens of articles of information and analysis on various communication media since March 2005 and, to date, no one has denied me. No one has been able to say “This that Luis del Pino says is false”. Mainly because I base my work on data from the judicial summary itself, therefore if somebody tells that I lie, I simply produce immediately the corresponding page of the judicial summary. I do not step on theories, I may analyse existing hypothesis, but I am not going to defend ETA or any other alternative, because doing so, I make no progress. The “Followers of the Conspiracy Theory” are the ones that pretend to convince us that that it was an Islamic attack, based on rests of a cartridge that the dogs cannot smell, a backpack in Vallecas that no one sees, a Skoda car that was not in Alcalá and an apartment in Leganes were seven guys blow up leaving no blood on the walls.

The newspaper “El País” this week has tried to discredit “El Mundo” publishing informations…

It has not been a very honest attitude, since in the case of the plot of the Goma-2 traffickers, as in the case of the boric acid, they have tried to create confusion, which has the virtue of confusing many people, but this is a very short-sighted strategy, because in the end, Spaniards are far less stupid that some would like, and cannot help recalling other times.

[He is referring to the last years of Socialist president González, when EL MUNDO crushed him politically uncovering the GAL and the Reserved Funds corruption cases, both in the Interior Ministry, involving a collusion of corrupted police officers and politicians].

I do not think they had been completely taken over by the Socialists. The Civil Guard has jurisdiction only on rural areas, and most 3/11 case is developed in urban ones, where the National police operates. Moreover, the Civil Guard investigations and reports included in the Judicial Summary on those few episodes that happened in rural areas, are correct and pretty detailed, strikingly detailed if you compare them with the National police ones, more that what might be necessary.

It is true that infiltration of pro-Socialist officials in the corps was favored by fourteen years of Socialist president Gonzalez rule and money, the Reserved Funds case in which high rank security officers and politicians shared the money destined to pay information and informers.

For instance, Civil Guards were the ones that cleverly discredited chief police officer Sanchez-Manzano report on which he affirmed methenamine (hexamine, the raw material of RDX) was a component of Goma-2 ECO.

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