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Taft's veto on gun bill overridden
Beacon Journal ^ | Dec. 08, 2006 | Dennis J. Willard

Posted on 12/08/2006 3:58:00 PM PST by neverdem

Move by House to revive law is first for governor

Beacon Journal Columbus Bureau

COLUMBUS - For almost eight years, Gov. Bob Taft never had one of his vetoes overridden by a legislative chamber -- until Thursday.

Taft used his veto power Thursday morning to kill House Bill 347, which is legislation amending the state's concealed-carry law.

In a prepared statement, Taft said the bill ``exceeds the scope of a concealed carry corrective bill by pre-empting local gun regulations relating to owning, possessing, purchasing, selling, and transferring firearms and their ammunition.''

Taft said state lawmakers went too far by using the bill to nullify local gun ordinances passed by cities, including assault weapons bans in Cleveland, Toledo, Columbus, Dayton and Cincinnati.

Successful passage of the bill also could affect Akron's law that guns must be sold with trigger locks, which are safety devices that prevent the gun from firing accidentally, said Thomas DiCaudo, the city's chief assistant prosecutor.

Summit County, the state's only charter government county, does not have its own gun laws, but county law director Karen Doty objected to the intrusion on local government.

``They are just so interested in taking away our local home rule,'' she said. ``You would think they would respect the different levels of government but they don't.'' A few hours after Taft vetoed the bill, the Ohio House voted 71-21 to override. Fourteen Democrats joined 57 Republicans to exceed the 60 votes needed in the lower chamber. All 21 votes against the override were cast by Democrats, including many who represent urban districts.

State Rep. James Aslanides, R-Coshocton, the bill's sponsor, rose on the floor to ask for the override and offered few remarks other than to say the people sent lawmakers to the Ohio House to represent their interests.

``I ask that this chamber must respectfully disagree with the governor,'' Aslanides said.

State Rep. Dan Stewart, D-Columbus, said he supports concealed carry and the original intent of Aslanides' legislation to address whether someone holding a gun needed to openly display the weapon while in a motor vehicle.

But Stewart said he supported the governor's veto because cities like Columbus, where 100 homicides have been committed this year, are trying to address serious crimes committed with assault weapons. The state should not interfere in local decisions about gun regulations, he said.

The bill was first introduced in the Ohio House so representatives took the first crack at the override. The Ohio Senate will also need to override the veto.

Senate President Bill Harris, R-Ashland, said he was talking to senators to decide how the upper chamber will proceed.

``I continue to be proud of the work the Ohio Senate did in balancing protections for law enforcement with providing clear and consistent standards so that gun owners are better able to understand and comply with the law no matter where they choose to legally carry their weapons,'' Harris said.

Taft did lawmakers a favor by issuing the veto just eight days after the bill cleared both legislative chambers.

A governor has up to 10 days after a bill ``hits his desk'' to sign it. He also can let the legislation go into effect without his signature or use his line-item veto to strike down all or any portion of the law.

Governors have a lot of wiggle room to delay the start of the 10 days because of the ``hits the desk'' trigger. Lawmakers are scheduled to end the current legislative session in the third week of December, and Taft could have delayed the veto until the session had ended.

Taft may have had a reason for issuing the veto quickly and sending the legislation back to the Ohio General Assembly.

The governor is pushing lawmakers to pass his Ohio Core initiative to increase high school graduation standards for enrollment in most state universities. Taft would like to hold a celebratory bill-signing ceremony before leaving office in January to end his two terms on a positive note.

Dennis J. Willard can be reached at 614-224-1613 or dwillard@thebeaconjournal.com.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: banglist
The Senate will return to session next week, when it also could take up a veto override. The vote in that chamber is closer -- the Senate needs 20 votes to override, but the gun bill passed 19-10, with four Democrats not in attendance.

Go Buckeyes!

1 posted on 12/08/2006 3:58:02 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

YES!!!! Ohioans have their rights restored to them, finally!!


2 posted on 12/08/2006 4:00:39 PM PST by PeterFinn (B’fhearr Gaeilge briste na Béarla cliste.)
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To: neverdem
Taft would like to hold a celebratory bill-signing ceremony before leaving office in January to end his two terms on a positive note.

Please RINO Gov Taft just go quietly into obscurity.

3 posted on 12/08/2006 4:04:13 PM PST by TYVets (God so loved the world he didn't send a committee)
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To: PeterFinn
YES!!!! Ohioans have their rights restored to them, finally!!

See comment# 1. Their Senate needs 20 votes to override the veto.

4 posted on 12/08/2006 4:13:16 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: PeterFinn

NOT YET - the senate has to override first


5 posted on 12/08/2006 4:13:49 PM PST by Repeal The 17th
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To: neverdem
Went looking for the name of a single individual murdered in Columbus by a killer using an assault weapon.

Didn't find any.

It appears the Columbus restrictions were designed to prohibit non-existent events.

6 posted on 12/08/2006 4:24:39 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: neverdem

Great news! Nice to see Taft's pitiful display of arrogant pique slapped down. Hope he lets the door hit him in the butt on the way out.


7 posted on 12/08/2006 5:13:21 PM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: neverdem

Excellent! That punk Taft thought he'd stick his thumb in the eye of gun owning Buckeyes one last time before sliming off into the sunset. Too bad it didn't work as planned.

Farewell to bad rubbish. It's a shame he's crawling back to Cincinnati. We don't want him.

GO BUCKEYES!


8 posted on 12/08/2006 6:10:26 PM PST by Buckeye Battle Cry (Life is too short to go through it clenched of sphincter and void of humor - it's okay to laugh.)
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To: PeterFinn

No wonder the Ohio GOP got slaughtered.


9 posted on 12/08/2006 7:33:16 PM PST by Defiant (Obama as President would make us an Obama Nation.)
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To: muawiyah

lol- Yep- more people died from toothbrush accidents than have died from gunshot wounds- Maybe Taft should should propose a measure to ban concealed toothbrushes- might have more success with that one! http://sacredscoop.com


12 posted on 12/08/2006 8:04:51 PM PST by CottShop
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To: neverdem
Taft's veto will be overridden because the Democrats want to leave him with a black eye before Ted Strickland is sworn into office as Governor in January.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

13 posted on 12/08/2006 10:18:11 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: neverdem

``They are just so interested in taking away our local home rule,'' she said.


Leftists always seem to overlook the "home rule" of the home owner. Hmm.


14 posted on 12/09/2006 8:01:38 AM PST by School of Rational Thought (Republican - The thinking people's party)
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To: TYVets
Taft would like to hold a celebratory bill-signing ceremony before leaving office in January to end his two terms on a positive note.

A-hole to the very end. Goodbye Taft. Please don't bother to show up ever again anywhere.

15 posted on 12/09/2006 11:10:17 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: neverdem
All 21 votes against the override were cast by Democrats...

Weren't we earlier told that the Democrat Party was changing its policy on gun control. Guess these Dems didn't get the message.

16 posted on 12/09/2006 8:50:31 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: OldPossum
Those are all urban Democrats. There may one or two rural Democrats in the Senate who'll make the override stick.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

17 posted on 12/09/2006 8:53:01 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

You're right. I did purposely leave out the reference to their being urban district Democrats. It's just that I thought the Party had learned something of a lesson, i.e., urban folks too want protection, protection that often comes from possession of a firearm.


18 posted on 12/09/2006 8:56:05 PM PST by OldPossum
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