[Luis Gonzalez]

Dan Phillips is an Assistant Professor of Psychiatry at Mercer University School of Medicine in Macon, Georgia. He specializes in the treatment of alcohol and drug addiction and obsesses about politics on the side.

[Luis Gonzalez]

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[Bluegrass Conservative]

Interesting article. It sounds like I fall into a wide variety of the categories though. I wish there was some little test you could take to give you a better idea of where you really are.

[A. Pole]

[...] the three areas where paleos are most commonly recognized as differing from “regular conservatives.” They were early strong opponents of immigration, a position which is now becoming in vogue. They were skeptical of the benefits of free-trade, and favored a policy of “economic nationalism.” They were particularly weary of free-trade deals that they believed sacrificed our national sovereignty such as NAFTA and GATT. And of course, they opposed most foreign intervention.

You can see how paleoconservatism came to be largely defined by its positions on issues where it was at variance with the neocons [...]

Paleo bump.

[Always A Marine]

Excellent article. It is refreshing to read someone who deals in ideas and specifics instead of invective. Most of those who are so quick to call names probably don't understand what the labels mean to begin with. This was a refreshing change.

[proud_yank]

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[Chi-townChief]

Interesting although redundant; modern "conservatism/rightism" has always been a loose coalition of traditionalists, libertarians, and anti-communists. Getting agreement among conservatives is "herding wildcats" as someone once said. The lefties stay in goosestep much more effectively.

[Torie]

Paleos generally reject the Enlightenment in whole or in part.

Interesting thought. He may be on to something. Although no Paleo, Dennis Prager lashed out at the Enlightenment on his radio show. It surprised me. Although some hate to admit it, the founding fathers founded this country on Enlightenment principles, rather right down the line.

[nickcarraway]

Paleoconservative used to mean one thing. In the last few years, the meaning has apparently changed to, "socialist."

[ProCivitas]

"Paleos generally reject the Enlightenment in whole or in part. They reject Lockean “contract theory” and the concept of “natural rights” out right."

This just seems false. I don't think I've ever run across a paleoconservative who didn't acknowledge "natural rights" (perhaps God-given etc.), i.e. not merely posited and arbitrary to be dispensed as public employees wish. And as for John Locke's hypotheses about 'the social contract' etc. most paleoconservatives I think would find those ideas about ethically binding implied consent to be at least as tenable as anything to the contrary. Am I overlooking something about "Lockean contract theory"?

[George W. Bush]

Good essay. You can see the echoes of the conflict between paleos, grassroots, neocons and mere partisans here at FR.

Interesting that Duncan Hunter is embracing the economic nationalism portion of the paleo agenda. His position on immigration is weak but he hasn't articulated a general view of foreign policy. It will be interesting to watch even if he is such a long shot.

[marron]

I'm re-reading Kirk right now. I like him, but I find myself disagreeing with him at times, mostly as a matter of emphasis. I don't consider myself a classic conservative, I lean toward classic liberalism, I think.

I find my thoughts reflected in Locke, Burke, Hayek, I admire Lincoln, I'm a Christian, and I recognize and accept the tensions and contradictions that go with those.

I'm pro-immigration, but I want the border secured.

[familyop]

Paleo-conservatives = Pat Buchanan, David Duke and their kind, including Europeans who complain about "neo-cons."

[rockrr]

Labels are so....Neo-paleo ;'}

[rmlew]

At least the author admits that the term "paleoconservative" is a neologism for a disperate coalition, not an actual idology.
It consists of Northern Elitists, Southern Agrarians, religious populists, and atheist libertarians.

Personally, I don't consider Gottfried to be a Paleoconservative, since his reaction is not to neoconservatives but to the Franfurt School.

PS. Chronicles and the Rochford Instituite were copted by paleos 15 years before The American Dhimmi was founded by the cokehead greek shipping magnate.

[TEXOKIE]

bttt for later

[napscoordinator]

Your Score

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System: Conservatism, Liberalism
Variation: Economic Conservatism, Economic Liberalism
Ideologies: Conservative NeoLiberalism, Progressive NeoLiberalism
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Well I don't know how well I did or how bad I did, but it does say that Ronald Reagan would be someone I would vote for and that is good enough for me.