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Did A Lone Rabbi Mean to Ban Christmas Trees?
Townhall.com ^ | December 10, 2006 | Michael Medved

Posted on 12/11/2006 8:14:08 AM PST by beaversmom

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1 posted on 12/11/2006 8:14:11 AM PST by beaversmom
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Airport's trees stoking "war on Christmas". (SEATAC Update)
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2 posted on 12/11/2006 8:15:32 AM PST by beaversmom
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So what went wrong with this whole miserable affair?

The Rabbi let a lawyer in on the deal.

3 posted on 12/11/2006 8:18:28 AM PST by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: beaversmom
Oh, yeah, blame it on the lawyer.

Hey Rabbi, actions do have unintended consequences.

Q. Why were the trees removed? A. You!
4 posted on 12/11/2006 8:18:42 AM PST by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: beaversmom

The Rabbi did not get what he wanted but he got what he asked for.


5 posted on 12/11/2006 8:19:17 AM PST by pikachu (The main stream news is to news what meteorologists are to meteors)
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To: beaversmom

triangulation: pitting one's enemies against each other.


6 posted on 12/11/2006 8:19:52 AM PST by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you)
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To: PeteB570

STFU....what is wrong with ASKING that one menorah be included amongst the Christmas Trees? The decision was not the Rabbi's, it was the Airport's. The Rabbi was doing his job...that's all...the Airport Executive office did not do theirs.


7 posted on 12/11/2006 8:21:21 AM PST by Hildy ("Death plucks my ear and says - LIVE - I am coming.....")
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To: beaversmom
I will bet this "Rabbi" votes only for left wing democrats!
8 posted on 12/11/2006 8:22:17 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: beaversmom

Does this "Rabbi" come from the Reform sect?


9 posted on 12/11/2006 8:24:22 AM PST by desherwood7
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To: beaversmom
Sorry Michael, not buying it. If Christmas trees are so non offensive why get the lawyer in the first place and why make the asinine threat of a lawsuit. Your friend stepped in it big time...
10 posted on 12/11/2006 8:24:36 AM PST by mockingbyrd (Good heavens! What women these Christians have-----Libanus)
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To: Hildy

He asked and then his lawyer threatened the airport.

So why did you type SFTU?

Have a problem with the truth?

Must be on a lib trail this AM.


11 posted on 12/11/2006 8:25:21 AM PST by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: beaversmom

He should not have asked to hold a lighting ceremony which would have turned it into a religious celebration. The airport wanted to avoid a costly legal battle.


12 posted on 12/11/2006 8:25:35 AM PST by Retired Chemist
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To: Hildy
Obviously the rabbi followed the wrong course of action ~ otherwise he would not have been outed as having Reform tendencies.

Besides, 99% of these situations have involved a dispute over a creche scene, wisemen, or something other than a tree decorated up as a "substitute sacrifice".

In the future that congregation has got to make sure they check the new rabbi's resume for any sign he attended Cincinnati.

13 posted on 12/11/2006 8:25:44 AM PST by muawiyah
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And it should be noted that underlying the issue is the fact that these were NOT CHRISTMAS TREES Seattle is after all inclusive by definition and the HOLIDAY TREES on display presumably represented all religions. Now there's a war on Holiday Trees. Should the H and T be capitalized now?

"What we have are holiday trees," she said. "If we are going to display symbols representing other cultures, we have to think what that means and what's respectful and what would make a good display. Maybe it would be 'Holidays of the World.'

"Or maybe it's snowmen."
Terri-Ann Betancourt , airport spokesman (spokeswoman, spokesms, whatever)

 

This is a Christmas Tree. Maybe someone can post a Holiday Tree. I'd like to see what they look like.


14 posted on 12/11/2006 8:25:50 AM PST by SJackson (had to move the national debate from whether to stay the course to how do we start down the path out)
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To: beaversmom

bttt


15 posted on 12/11/2006 8:26:07 AM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: beaversmom

Lawsuits because of offense are the root cause of all of this PC nonsense. Being offended is not something that should be eligible to bring suit against.

The lawyer who "threatened" the lawsuit should be the one to apologize. If the Rabbi told the lawyer to threaten, he should admit such and apologize. And the wusses at the airport should apologize for being so easy to intimidate.

Then put up the Christmas trees, a Nativity scene, a Menorah, and a festivus pole and be done with this nonsense.


16 posted on 12/11/2006 8:26:19 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Hildy

You missed it... as several others had said asking for a Menorah wasn't the problem / mistake.

It was hiring an attorney and threatening a federal lawsuit because they didn't respond to his request "in a timely manner" that caused the hubbub.

Either way it was (intentionally or not) the Rabbi's fault.


17 posted on 12/11/2006 8:26:21 AM PST by FreedomNeocon (Success is not final; Failure is not fatal; it is the courage to continue that counts -- Churchill)
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To: beaversmom

So did this Rabbi just give his lawyer carte blanche, or did he not give the attorney permission to use the words "federal lawsuit" for leverage to get his way?


18 posted on 12/11/2006 8:26:32 AM PST by sockmonkey (Die, Possums, Die)
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To: desherwood7

This Rabbi, was trying to include Seattle in with the other 11,000 public Menorah displays that Chabad Lubavitch sponsors around the country. Usually, these Menorahs are paid for by private donors and the host site merely provides a space and electricity. Who puts up the Christmas trees and who pays for them in public places?


19 posted on 12/11/2006 8:26:36 AM PST by APRPEH (id theft info available on my profile page)
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[After two months of indecision from the Port of Seattle (the quasi-governmental agency that runs the airport) concerning the request for a menorah, the rabbi’s lawyer made the mistake (yes, it was a mistake) of threatening a federal lawsuit and the airport people panicked and ordered the removal of the trees. “We’re not in the business of offending anyone and we’re not eager to get into a federal lawsuit with anyone,” said Craig Watson, chief lawyer for the Port of Seattle. Patricia Davis, head of the Port Commission said, “We didn’t have other cultures represented and rather than scramble around to find representations of other cultures at this late date, we decided to take them down and consider it later.” ]

The law of unintended consequences. Threatening a federal lawsuit was assinine.


20 posted on 12/11/2006 8:26:42 AM PST by khnyny (God Bless the Republic for which it stands)
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