Jeff, you don't have to read the rest of this,it's not directed at you. I'm just hopping mad right now & need to rant to no one in particular & I'm too tired to start another reply to myself.
I know freepers don't like to hear this, but a lot of the really over-the-top anti-illegal rhetoric is just killing R candidates around here."Conservatives" aren't voting because they've been told 24/7 for 2 years by bogus trojan-horse 'conservatives' like Michael Savage working on behalf of dems that this president & his party don't care about 'borders,language & culture'& they'd be better off with dems than voting for hispanic-loving rinos.And they bought it!
And the moderates whom we NEED to win elections & achieve majorities to get legislation passed, plus lots & lots of (legal) hispanics are turned off by all the Tancredo-type garbage from Republicans, even though most of those hispanics are social conservatives! This is a fact. Republicans cannot win going down this road and conservatives are going to have to settle in for the long-haul out in the wilderness with no voice if they wish to continue to subjugate all other considerations to this issue.
I guarantee you that the democrats are all high-fiving each other because so many 'conservatives' fell for their calculated divide & conquer strategy & were so very obliging to their candidates this election. None of these left-wing democrats could have won these races without the willing assistance of so many "CINO"s, who'd actually rather have Nancy Pelosi as speaker, Silvestre Reyes as intelligence chairman & Hillary Clinton as President than get off of their rears and vote for a party that Lou Dobbs (Ted Turner's lackey, lol) says is too "liberal" like the freeper upthread just did.
Gotcha. Thanks for that clarification.
"I know freepers don't like to hear this, but a lot of the really over-the-top anti-illegal rhetoric is just killing R candidates around here."Conservatives" aren't voting because they've been told 24/7 for 2 years by bogus trojan-horse 'conservatives' like Michael Savage working on behalf of dems that this president & his party don't care about 'borders,language & culture'& they'd be better off with dems than voting for hispanic-loving rinos.And they bought it!"
You are exactly right. Putting Tom Tancredo and Pat Buchanan on the TV to speak out against Illegal immigration as GOP spokesmen (yes I know Pat is not offcially a Republican, but the meida labels him as one) is killing the GOP with voters in the Hispanic communitty that probably subscribe to alot of our agenda. Stuff like strong miltary, faith, guns, pro life, anit Gay rights, etc., etc.
After the elections Bush said he thought possibilities for immigration reform may have opened with the dem congressional takeover. I wonder if the rats would want to give up the issue.
In TX we lost DeLay and Bonilla. In AZ we lost Heyworth. In CA we lost Pambo. All conservatives and border guardians. It seems oposition to illegal immigration is an issue that the GOP can only overcome in non-border states.