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Immigration raids may affect meat prices
AP on Yahoo ^ | 12/15/06 | Roxana Hegeman - ap

Posted on 12/15/2006 1:39:13 PM PST by NormsRevenge

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To: NormsRevenge

If labor costs of meat processing rise, that will create an incentive to further automate the process reducing the need for human labor. There's no downside to this as I see it.


61 posted on 12/15/2006 3:40:36 PM PST by Aikonaa
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To: NormsRevenge

I should eat less meat anyway.....


62 posted on 12/15/2006 3:45:08 PM PST by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: NormsRevenge

Beef producers employing illegal invaders and complaining when they get caught!????


BOYCOT BEEF!!!

Eat fish, chicken, or some other protein source.

They expect SYMPATHY???

They can go screw themselves - s.o.b.s.


63 posted on 12/15/2006 4:04:09 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: oldenuff2no

"Kick the illegals out and make the agriculture industry pay a living wage to American workers.
Yes, prices will go up but we will be supporting Americans and not Mexicans. Aren't we supposed to be taking care of our own???"

Thats exactly what American autoworkers said, not many of them left working.

Do you think meat can't be imported ? If the butchered beef can be shipped around the country from Texas it can be shipped from Mexico. Ever heard of NAFTA ?

Raising costs on a product from a mfg. or producer isn't a zero sum game. That cost is expanded at every level of exchange until it get to your wallet.

Raise the cost of beef 20 cents a pound for the slaughter house and it may add $1 a pound on the beef on your table.


64 posted on 12/15/2006 4:05:27 PM PST by Beagle8U
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To: tiger-one

"If beef goes higher, fish becomes a good substitute. Little waste on fish"

Not much waste on hamburger either.


65 posted on 12/15/2006 4:09:02 PM PST by Beagle8U
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To: NormsRevenge

What percentage of the price is the human labor to get a pound of ribeye steak to my dinner table? Would it be five percent? Now double it, how much is that for a ten dollar steak? Not that much more, and worth every penny to keep illegals out.


66 posted on 12/15/2006 4:12:20 PM PST by Tailback
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To: NormsRevenge
If the price of meat goes up a little bit, so what?
And the price of medical care goes up to offset illegals getting free medical help, SO WHAT?
And the cost in taxes to pay for illegals to educate their children goes up, SO WHAT?
SO, I'd rather pay more for meat, lettuce and mow my own lawn if it means protecting our border's and a immigration policy that isn't dictated by Mexico.
67 posted on 12/15/2006 4:23:14 PM PST by Isabelle
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To: Concho
The packers will begin pouting and will raise the wholesale prices to the stores to punish you for interfering with their comfy little system.

Well, two can play that game. I don't need to eat their meat, lettuce, whatever. I'm self reliant and won't be blackmailed into buying anyone's product. I still have that power. So do you. Let their meat rot.

68 posted on 12/15/2006 4:26:27 PM PST by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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To: Caipirabob

I doubt your Big Mac price will be affected. Is any of that meat from America?


69 posted on 12/15/2006 5:28:53 PM PST by amchugh
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To: Beagle8U

"Do you think meat can't be imported ? If the butchered beef can be shipped around the country from Texas it can be shipped from Mexico. Ever heard of NAFTA?"

Bump


70 posted on 12/15/2006 5:32:07 PM PST by amchugh
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To: ClaireSolt

How on earth did we Americans ever manage to get anything done over the last 40 or so years without illegals?

/sarcasm off


If you look a bit deeper into the meatpacking industry you'll notice how wages went DOWN with the influx of illegals. Prior to the influx of illegals, American citizens did the work for a few bucks more per hour.

The same can be said of all the trades.


71 posted on 12/15/2006 5:34:08 PM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: tiger-one

I'm not all that fond of fish period, but all the guys on the Lake Powell board swear by how good they are, and there is so many there it doesn't have a limit, they WANT people to catch them.


72 posted on 12/15/2006 6:11:26 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: NormsRevenge

I'm willing to pay more for meat packed by legal immigrants or citizens of the good old U.S.


73 posted on 12/15/2006 6:12:43 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: tiger-one
meat is high already...so just switch to fish

Fish is cheaper where you live? Here in Kansas, it's more expensive.

74 posted on 12/15/2006 6:14:38 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Whine, whine, whine...

They keep on about the "needed" labor, while completely ignoring the other, much larger costs to America. Throw the illegals out already.

75 posted on 12/15/2006 6:19:31 PM PST by meyer (Bring back the Contract with America and you'll bring back the Republican majority.)
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To: trtwox
It will all work out in the free market. More people will eat less meat and prices will come down due to more supply and less demand.

Exactly! And besides, 15 years ago when meatpackers were making $19 an hour I was paying a heap lot less for meat than I am now when the avg wage is $9 an hour. Why is that? The more expensive the labor, the cheaper the meat? Obviously not, either someone's making a killing or feed prices have gone up that much but all in all, I don't believe it's the labor that's got the meat prices so high.

76 posted on 12/15/2006 6:47:49 PM PST by ozarkgirl
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To: WatchingInAmazement

Well, tell ya what, hot rod, I believe as you do. For a $17.50 permit, last week, I went out and killed enough deer to fill my freezer. I wont buy beef at any price, because I have a freezer full of venison. I raise cattle, but I wont be blackmailed at the meat counter. If I run out of venison, I will just kill one of my own steers and butcher it the same as I do wild game. No problem.


77 posted on 12/15/2006 8:33:38 PM PST by Concho (IRS--Americas real terrorist organization.)
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To: MEGoody
Some, plus less waste...NH Looking all read meat, lamb out of sight the bargains in comparison...some pork, some chicken...
78 posted on 12/16/2006 2:45:38 AM PST by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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To: NormsRevenge

I would gladly pay $10 for a pound of hamburger.

We probably already do in the form of taxes we pay to support the social services these leeches use.


79 posted on 12/16/2006 3:40:28 AM PST by x1stcav (I always thought he was a Murthaf*cker.)
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To: NormsRevenge

When hordes of police and immigration officials stormed meatpacking plants in six states this week, the illegal workers arrested may not have been the only victims.


Dear AP,
Illegal aliens using fake papers are criminals. Criminals are NOT victims. Companies that knowingly hire them are criminals too.
kalee


80 posted on 12/16/2006 4:01:51 AM PST by kalee (No burka for me....EVER!)
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