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Activists march down Fifth Avenue to protest police shooting
AP and Boston Herald ^ | 16 December 2006 | Staff

Posted on 12/16/2006 1:05:49 PM PST by shrinkermd

NEW YORK - Thousands of protesters, counting in unison from one to 50 to mark the number of shots fired by police in the death of an unarmed Queens man last month, clogged Fifth Avenue on Saturday in a “Shopping for Justice” protest three weeks after the slaying and one week before the Christmas weekend.

Trent Benefield, 23, one of the survivors of the Nov. 25 shooting that killed Sean Bell, led the marchers from his wheelchair as they headed south through midtown Manhattan. He was encircled by bodyguards, and followed by a group of clergy and elected officials on one of the busiest shopping days of the year just nine days before Christmas.

"... This is not just a New York City problem,” said U.S. Rep. Charles Rangel, who was near the front of the march. “This march gives people a chance to speak out.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: africanamericans; antipolicecrowd; charlierangel; drivebyhustlers; drugdealers; effluvia; fatal; nyc; police; povertypimps; racehustlers; racialconartists; seanbell
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1 posted on 12/16/2006 1:05:52 PM PST by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd
Charlie Rangel cares nothing for murder victims and the police. But he does care about having his mug taken with the Drive By Hustlers and anti-police crowd.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

2 posted on 12/16/2006 1:09:02 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: shrinkermd
But not everyone was behind Sharpton’s cause. Steven Pagones, a former prosecutor who won a $345,000 defamation case against Sharpton and two other men in 1998, showed up at the march to remind people of the civil rights activist’s inaccurate charges against him in the Tawana Brawley case.

Sharpton made the unsubstantiated allegation that Pagones was one of a group of white men who abducted and raped Brawley.

“Al Sharpton is capable of making outrageous and reckless charges,” Pagones said. “I know, because I was on the receiving end in the Tawana Brawley case, which we know is a hoax. Al Sharpton is an opportunist. My primary purpose is to remind people to be careful when they listen to Al Sharpton.”

He he he. I'm sure they had all the proper permits for their "protest" as their are no reports of arrests.

3 posted on 12/16/2006 1:13:50 PM PST by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: shrinkermd
"Justice" is what these marchers seek? The perp drove into a man (whether or not he was a policeman), and then backed into a van full of other people (whether they were policemen or not). It's called self-defense.

And that is not regarding the fact that everyone in that car, driver and passengers alike (including the one who fled the scene), had felony records. Justice? Justice was done. Get over it.

Congressman Billybob

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4 posted on 12/16/2006 1:14:07 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com Please get involved.)
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To: shrinkermd; All

After glancing at the headline I thought it said "Shoplifting for Justice." I may closer to the truth with that thought.

Probably NOT a good place to wear my "FRY MUMIA" Tee shirt, huh?


5 posted on 12/16/2006 1:30:32 PM PST by Gideon Reader (" All of us know who the enemy is, and where the threat comes from, except for the politicians.")
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To: shrinkermd; All

After glancing at the headline I thought it said "Shoplifting for Justice." I may closer to the truth with that thought.

Probably NOT a good place to wear my "FRY MUMIA" Tee shirt, huh?


6 posted on 12/16/2006 1:31:14 PM PST by Gideon Reader (" All of us know who the enemy is, and where the threat comes from, except for the politicians.")
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To: shrinkermd

When they got to #16 did they go"click, clunk..slap,click" to mimic the reload?


7 posted on 12/16/2006 1:51:23 PM PST by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: shrinkermd
Trent Benefield, 23, one of the survivors of the Nov. 25 shooting...led the marchers from his wheelchair...(and)was encircled by bodyguards...

This is nothing more than inflammatory BS.

This "survivor" has now been so infused with arrogance and belligerence by Al Sharpless, that he actually thinks he matters enough for someone to want to harm him further.

Sharpless is a lying POS and does nothing more than rouse the rabble.

8 posted on 12/16/2006 3:00:01 PM PST by OldSmaj (Death to Islam. I am now and will always be, a sworn enemy of all things muslim.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

I think your wrong here...

Assume for now that the person behind the wheel deliberately tried to run over a cop, and he knew the cop was a cop and not a thug.

That would make this person (the driver) a legitimate target.

However, there were three other (citizens) in the car with this crazy man that displayed no threat to the cops. It's clear that they could not have conspired with the driver to run over the cop. There just wouldn't have been the time.

These other three deserve the protection of the cops, not execution. They could be viewed as hostages, since they were stuck in the car with this crazy man.

Suppose these folks got on a crowded buss instead of getting into their car. Would you support shooting 50 rounds into the bus. I think not.

The people in this case didn't just "rob a bank". They were at a bachelor party. You would have no reason to expect all the playgoers to be out to get you.

There's no way that all four had the intent to do harm to the cops, which leaves us with one or more Innocent citizens, and a justified murder (or attempted murder) charge against the cops.

Riddeling the car with 50 rounds was obviously an attempt to kill all the occupants of the car, not just the driver.

The fact that "all" had criminal records is irreverent. "Most" black males have criminal records in major cities, however the cops did not know of these records at the time of the shooting.

The police in this case need to be charged.


9 posted on 12/16/2006 3:31:30 PM PST by babygene (Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
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To: michigander
Been listening to WABC news all day. Not a single word about Pagones. No surprise tho.

This man suffered mightily due to Sharpton and one of his fellow officers committed suicide.

That the media deifies Sharpton is sickening.

10 posted on 12/16/2006 3:47:45 PM PST by OldFriend (THE PRESS IS AN EVIL FOR WHICH THERE IS NO REMEDY)
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To: babygene

Consider the fact the undercover agent was in the strip club enjoying the show and drinking too. Now I don't know how large this club is, but if it is smaller club, then there is a chance that the victims could have seen him in there enjoying himself with all the rest.


Now he's outside the club flashing a badge and gun demanding that they comply with his commands. Is he real, or is he memorex? It is not a crime to go into a strip club and drink. The victims had committed no crime. At that juncture their crime became failure to comply. But how were they supposed to know who this character really was that was giving them commands? He was in the strip club drinking and partying too. Is he a mugger with a real gun and fake badge or a real cop? Not much time to decide.

Oops, he was real and he was a shooter. Course, if he was a mugger with fake badge, either way they were in trouble.

I think I would have done what Sean Bell did. Do everything I could to escape the scene knowing I had committed no crime and surely this wasn't a real cop.




11 posted on 12/16/2006 3:54:00 PM PST by takenoprisoner
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To: OldFriend

Part of crowd psychology status is that a minority needs to constantly reinforce its necessity and rationale. When there is no central belief or purpose, then what results is a series of efforts to enforce some sort of cohesiveness.

For example, for the secular Jew (non observant) antisemitism serves this purpose. Any slight, no matter how trivial, is seen as proof positive that they are victims and need to defend themselves as a group. The pay off is they are once again identified as "Jews" with a big "J" rather than a small "j." Of course the big challenge to Judiasm is not the mediocre American antisemitiesm but the intermarriage of Jewish males to Gentile women.

For the African-Americans it is much the same only this time skin color is equated with being the target of police brutality. The constant effort at finding examples is exhaustive but the pay off is increased group cohesion and the ability to discharge group hostility and prejudice against Whites whomever they may be. The outcome this entire effort is only the justification of claims against the Democratic party with little or no benefit for the Black middle or underclass. Just a cheap emotion soon dissipated because of sameness and boredom.


12 posted on 12/16/2006 4:00:54 PM PST by shrinkermd
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To: takenoprisoner
"Consider the fact the undercover agent was in the strip club enjoying the show and drinking too."

I tend to agree with you, but in my post #9 to Congressman Billybob, I conceded that the driver may have done something criminal and threatening to the cops.

Even with that concession, the cop's actions were still criminal...
13 posted on 12/16/2006 4:07:22 PM PST by babygene (Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
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To: OldFriend
That the media deifies Sharpton is sickening.

Did you mean 'That the media defends Sharpton is sickening?

14 posted on 12/16/2006 4:18:42 PM PST by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: michigander
Fat Al.... string the words together and you have FATAL. Yeah, I think that describes the orotound Sharpton to a T!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

15 posted on 12/16/2006 4:21:16 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: michigander
That the media deifies Sharpton is sickening.

Did you mean 'That the media defends Sharpton is sickening?

de·i·fy (d-f, d-)
tr.v. dei·fied, dei·fy·ing, dei·fies
1. To make a god of; raise to the condition of a god.
2. To worship or revere as a god: deify a leader.
3. To idealize; exalt: deifying success.

16 posted on 12/16/2006 4:24:36 PM PST by wolficatZ ("..a creature from the prehistoric past. The terrible, fearsome, Croco-Stimpy! ")
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To: goldstategop
Fat Al.... string the words together and you have FATAL.

Oh sheesh. He has no problem as long as it's someone else. When his day arrives, Wellstone's send off will pale in comparison.

17 posted on 12/16/2006 4:26:57 PM PST by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: wolficatZ; OldFriend
Oh crap! I need to clean my eyeballs out so I can read.
I saw only 'defies', my bad all the way around. UGH!
18 posted on 12/16/2006 4:29:37 PM PST by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: wolficatZ; OldFriend
That's what happens when one focuses more on defeating ones wife at 8-ball than posting. LMAO!

FOCUS!

19 posted on 12/16/2006 4:39:47 PM PST by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: babygene

"...but in my post #9 to Congressman Billybob, I conceded that the driver may have done something criminal and threatening to the cops."

For all we know this undercover agent jumped on the hood of the car and began firing because they refused to comply with his commands. Folks all over the nation are getting tasered for the same thing. Then as Bell was trying to throw him off the car he collided with the unmarked van that was full of other undercover agents that jumped out and began firing away themselves.

The one thing we do know, they had no guns. So we are left with the undercover agents claim that he tried to run him over...using the car as a deadly weapon.

I'll say this, that is a pretty agile agent that can be nearly run over by a car and then still be able to jump on the hood and began firing away. Obviously he wasn't hurt or impaired in anyway by the car. That tells me Bell was determined to escape the scene and the undercover agent was hell bent on stopping him even if it meant killing him and everyone in the car.

Bell's only crime thru-out this whole ordeal was failure to comply with the commands of someone he wasn't sure was a cop.


20 posted on 12/16/2006 4:50:52 PM PST by takenoprisoner
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