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(Carmelo) Anthony may face stiffest penalty in wake of brawl (Knicks/Nuggets fight)
espn.com ^ | Dec. 17, 2006 | Chris Sheridan

Posted on 12/17/2006 11:00:40 AM PST by Roberts

NEW YORK -- About a minute or two before the Knicks-Nuggets brawl erupted Saturday night in Madison Square Garden, New York coach Isiah Thomas mentioned to Denver star Carmelo Anthony that it wouldn't be a good idea to go anywhere near the paint, according to a member of the Denver Nuggets organization.

The message was unmistakable: A hard foul was coming. And when it came, the NBA had its first full-scale fight of the 2006-07 season.

As it tries to stay in the race in the Western Conference, Denver now has a huge question to ponder: How long will Anthony be suspended? That's in addition to that other question they've been dealing with for a week: Is Allen Iverson coming aboard?

My first guess was that Anthony would be suspended for four games, a prediction I related to Denver coach George Karl after he reviewed a tape of the fight.

"I'll take the over," he said.

Anthony is likely to be penalized the hardest because he threw the punch everyone is going to see over and over again, a roundhouse right that decked Knicks rookie Mardy Collins -- the player who initiated the fracas with an egregiously hard flagrant foul against J.R. Smith on a breakaway with 1:15 remaining.

The Knicks were angry the Nuggets still had their starters in the game in the final two minutes despite a double-digit lead, including a 119-100 advantage when Collins committed his foul.

"They were sticking it to us pretty good, really giving it to us. J.R. had one dunk where he reversed and spun in the air, and Mardy didn't want to see that happen again in front of our fans," Thomas said.

Smith immediately jumped up and challenged Collins, and the fracas escalated when Knicks guard Nate Robinson ran into the fray. About 15 seconds after the initial foul, as players from both teams were clustered along the baseline just a few feet from Garden owner James Dolan's seat, Anthony threw what appeared to be a sucker punch at Collins, decking him.

Anthony backpedaled downcourt after the punch, with Jared Jeffries nearly coming out of his shirt as he tried to chase Anthony down, and various people tried to stop Jeffries. All 10 players who were on the court -- including all of Denver's starters except Nene -- were ejected.

"From what they did, keeping their guys on the court, I knew a foul was going to come. It was a good, clean, hard foul, and after that things went down from there," Robinson said. "I've never seen a team up 20 keep their starters in. They wanted to embarrass us, and it was a slap in the face to us as a team and a franchise."

Robinson is certain to draw a suspension for his part in escalating the brawl, and likewise Collins for the part his flagrant foul played. The league might come down hard on Thomas, too, if it finds him culpable for instigating the fracas by ordering a hard foul.

But the biggest penalty likely will go to Anthony, who began the night as the league's leading scorer and was just 75 seconds away from wrapping up a 2-3 road trip on a positive note.

Now, he might be out until Christmas, and he might even have Iverson as a teammate by the next time he plays, although Karl didn't sound too positive about that possible development, either.

"I spoke to [general manager] Mark [Warkentien] yesterday, and he said it seemed like it was dying down. I didn't even bother calling him today," Karl told me before heading out the locker room door for the flight back to Denver, facing an immediate future without Iverson or Anthony ... and sounding convinced things are going to stay that way for a while.


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To: Roberts

Looks like the NBA thugs are at it again! What ever happened to "SPORTS?" What ever happened to sportsmanship? What ever happened to decent sportsmen? The NBA is a total digrace! Anyone who thinks it is otherwise is a fool and a tool! lol


41 posted on 12/17/2006 2:50:29 PM PST by Continental Soldier
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To: alrea
...one of the least successful GM's in NBA history and he still has a job...

It's much more deplorable that Bush still has a job, what with 9/11, lies about WMD and everything else, Iraq, skyrocketing budget deficits, Katrina, Abu Ghraib, and Guantanamo Bay. The Knicks' .346 winning percentage is much better than Bush's and they don't even have a $2 trillion budget to work with.

42 posted on 12/17/2006 3:05:27 PM PST by MurryMom
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To: tickmeister

I loved that incident. Nolan didn't back down, got Robin Ventura in a headlock, punched him directly 5 times, and finished with a roundhouse uppercut that snapped Ventura's head back. So much for a tough guy with a bat charging the mound. LOL!


43 posted on 12/17/2006 4:47:51 PM PST by Roberts
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To: MurryMom

What ever you're on, I suggest upping the dosage.


44 posted on 12/17/2006 5:09:21 PM PST by CoolPapaBoze
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To: MurryMom
It's much more deplorable that Bush still has a job, what with 9/11, lies about WMD and everything else, Iraq, skyrocketing budget deficits, Katrina, Abu Ghraib, and Guantanamo Bay. The Knicks' .346 winning percentage is much better than Bush's and they don't even have a $2 trillion budget to work with.

I'd suggest quitting the crack and going to Heroin....
45 posted on 12/17/2006 5:10:34 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Go Bucks!!!!)
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To: MikefromOhio

Wow! "They" can even find a way to turn a basketball thread into an attack on the President.


46 posted on 12/17/2006 5:11:49 PM PST by CWOJackson (Help tancredo keep his term limits pledge...anyone else in 2008)
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To: CWOJackson

It's MM

If anyone is taking what she says seriously, they are already so whacked out as to not matter anyway......


47 posted on 12/17/2006 5:13:08 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Go Bucks!!!!)
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To: MurryMom

Trolling again?


48 posted on 12/17/2006 5:16:23 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: george76

Nokia, McDonald's, Budweiser, The Coca-Cola Co., Eastman Kodak Co., Reebok, The Walt Disney Co ...


49 posted on 12/17/2006 5:24:07 PM PST by UpAllNight
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To: UpAllNight

Thanks.

I have added them to my 'do not buy' list.


50 posted on 12/17/2006 6:49:42 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Roberts
The significance of this?

.The significance of this is that the NBA is basically governed by the ethics of a street punk. From bottom to top.

51 posted on 12/17/2006 7:30:57 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: llevrok

" over-paid, illiterate, ill bred, street trash for fear of starting a race riot and offending the same, aforesaid punks."

Gee, and I was just about to say what a nice bunch of boys are playing in the NBA these days.

Is our whole culture being trashed down. People used to aspire to be well dressed and grooomed, strive to improve themselves, have better manners, move up, etc. Now it seems that the low class scum and trash set the standards of behavior in America and much of the world.

Everything is more coarse and vulgar these days.

Perhaps I'm just an old fashioned snob.


52 posted on 12/17/2006 9:49:29 PM PST by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now courtesy of Islam.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I agree.

I also think they should raise the baskets to 12 feet so you would have to shoot the ball into the basket rather than just show off and cram/stuff it in. That would probably change a lot of the play and players in the game.

There's too much showboating, celebrating and hand slapping after too many or every single insignificant or ordinary play or move.


53 posted on 12/17/2006 10:06:57 PM PST by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now courtesy of Islam.)
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To: garyhope
Perhaps I'm just an old fashioned snob.

Count me in on being such a snob too, please.

54 posted on 12/18/2006 8:17:49 AM PST by llevrok (My seat back is never in the full and upright position.)
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To: garyhope
Hey nice post and I do agree with you.

All of this trash living and rapping along with this 60's crap "Can't we all just get along" attitude is a major cause of concern.

When the final history is written on the 60's generation several things will stick out such as the high number of cowards aka John Kerry, the me first generation, instant gratification, dumbing down of schools and the almost certain death of a Christian nation to satisfy a few nonconformists.

Yes we in the 60's generation are leaving one hell of a legacy. Dang aren't I proud.

One where trash talking rappers are held in higher esteem than the presidency.

Where juiced up baseball players earn millions.

Where winning is not only important it is the only thing important.

Where Seniors isolate themselves in walled in communities because they cannot be bothered with the younger generation gone wild.

A country fast building on cut and run as a national policy.

Yes, my friend the NBA is nothing but a bunch of over paid thugs doing what their rich what masters want them to do.

We all support them and their trash attitudes every time we turn on a game.
55 posted on 12/18/2006 12:31:42 PM PST by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia now a certified socialist state reporting to Mexico City for further instructions)
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