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Gay condo controversy
Boston Herald ^ | Sunday, December 17, 2006 | Scott Van Voorhis/

Posted on 12/17/2006 7:52:05 PM PST by A. Pole

The Bay State, the birthplace of gay marriage, is on the cusp of another revolution in alternative living that could prove to be just as controversial - gay condo communities.

Developers across the country are drawing up plans for condo projects - and sometimes even whole communities - targeted at gay and lesbian buyers. And Massachusetts is proving to be a fertile laboratory for this experiment.

Two planned developments on either end of the state, the Stonewall at Audubon Circle in the Fenway and Paradise One in Easthampton, are pioneering condo complexes marketed to older gay and lesbian residents.

There is talk that a few developers might even move beyond the graying gay population to roll out condo projects aimed at gays of all ages.

But some critics, like state Rep. Brian Wallace (D-South Boston), are fuming over what they see as a new double standard.

“We try and get people in Southie into these (elderly) condos and we get croaked,” Wallace said. “They won’t just let us do South Boston residents.”

“You can do this for one group, and not another?” asked an incredulous Wallace. “It’s pushing the envelope to a drastic point.”

Wallace said Southie has tried time and again to win City Hall’s blessing to build housing targeted at neighborhood seniors, only to be lectured by city development officials about how it would run afoul of fair housing laws. He is threatening to take up the issue with city officials over what he calls a “double standard.”

Boosters of gay condo developments say they have no plans to heap on straights the kind of discrimation they’ve suffered over the years. But it’s unclear how welcoming heterosexual singles and couples would find these communities.

“What if I was saying this building is just for heterosexual people, or Muslims, or Jews or Catholics. What’s the difference?,” asked Michael Carucci, head of ERA Boston Real Estate Group. “To take it the next step and say this building is just for gay people - it’s a bit much,” he said.

Joy Malchodi, who hopes to buy a condo at the Fenway’s proposed Stonewall at Audubon Circle, acknowledged that living in a like-minded community is a major attraction for her. The 58-year-old Fort Point resident recalls days when most gays and lesbians stayed in the closet.

“You would really know your neighbors,” Malchodi said. “The boys would have wonderful dinner parties and I would have plenty of women to go golfing with.”

About 23 other people have put down $1,000 deposits for one of roughly 60 units in the proposed Fenway development

Designed, but not limited to, older gays and lesbians, perks include a dining hall and concierge service. Units will sell from $400,000 to $700,000.

The initial plan for Stonewall called for a condominium co-op. That would have given residents the power to reject would-be buyers, though not on sexual orientation, which would run afoul of anti-discrimination laws.

But while the new project’s condo board will not have such power, residents will have to want to pay for extra services that include a course on “gay grandparents.”Meanwhile, developers are pushing forward with plans for more projects targeted at gays.

David Aronstein, whose Stonewall Communities is marketing the Fenway complex, is exploring the possibility of condo projects for aging gays and lesbians in Boston’s suburbs, as well as in other New England cities such as Providence.

Now some developers - including at least one local builder - are exploring what could be a controversial next step: A condo complex catering to gays of all ages.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: gay; homosexual; homosexualagenda; housing; inthegaytto; stonewall
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1 posted on 12/17/2006 7:52:07 PM PST by A. Pole
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To: trisham; Disturbin; ThirstyMan; Aquinasfan; emil; johnthebaptistmoore; Radix; guinnessboy; ...
The Bay State, the birthplace of gay marriage, is on the cusp of another revolution

Here you are.

2 posted on 12/17/2006 7:53:52 PM PST by A. Pole (Joanne Senier-LaBarre: "We Wish You a Swinging Holiday!")
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To: A. Pole
“The boys would have wonderful dinner parties and I would have plenty of women to go golfing with.”

It's funny how some people can get away with stereotypes, isn't it?

3 posted on 12/17/2006 7:57:46 PM PST by atomicpossum (Replies must follow approved guidelines or you will be kill-filed without appeal.)
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To: A. Pole

There's no front door?


4 posted on 12/17/2006 7:59:30 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (Pinch and Keller need to check in at the Ken Lay Suite at a Federal SuperMax...)
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To: A. Pole

Will they be forming a Homo-owners Association?


5 posted on 12/17/2006 8:01:14 PM PST by panaxanax
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To: A. Pole
The initial plan for Stonewall called for a condominium co-op. That would have given residents the power to reject would-be buyers, though not on sexual orientation, which would run afoul of anti-discrimination laws.

But while the new project’s condo board will not have such power, residents will have to want to pay for extra services that include a course on “gay grandparents.”Meanwhile, developers are pushing forward with plans for more projects targeted at gays.

I don't think the use of such a "Pole Tax" to keep straights out would pass muster with the Equal Housing laws.

6 posted on 12/17/2006 8:02:27 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (Pinch and Keller need to check in at the Ken Lay Suite at a Federal SuperMax...)
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More liberal hypocrisy. In real estate fair housing laws
are sacred. In no way are you to steer, profile or
cater to any one group of people. You cannot mention
that a church is within walking distance of a house lest this be religious discrimination.

Gay housing is o.k. but family friendly housing is not?
Liberals love to segregate, conquer and divide.


7 posted on 12/17/2006 8:02:31 PM PST by ChiMark
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To: A. Pole

Now if they created an all-straight complex, liberals would be up in arms!

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8 posted on 12/17/2006 8:04:04 PM PST by xuberalles (Anti-Liberal Novelties, Titillating Tees! http://www.cafepress.com/titillatingtees)
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To: Doctor Raoul

Edible carpet.


9 posted on 12/17/2006 8:05:25 PM PST by ZOOKER ( How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?)
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To: A. Pole

"In the Gaytto..."


10 posted on 12/17/2006 8:05:29 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat (An easy 10-team playoff based on the BCS bowls can be implemented by next year. See my homepage.)
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To: A. Pole

Well, at least it will be easy to get a haircut and buy flowers on the way home for residents in the local area.


11 posted on 12/17/2006 8:12:12 PM PST by quantim (Carcinoma Senatorus = Incurable malignant cancer causing senators to think they're Presidential.)
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To: A. Pole

So, when will the ACLU be storming in with the lawsuits?


12 posted on 12/17/2006 8:12:14 PM PST by toothfairy86
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To: Nailbiter

... Condomowners?


13 posted on 12/17/2006 8:13:39 PM PST by IncPen (When Al Gore Finished the Internet, he invented Global Warming)
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To: A. Pole

This definitly runs afoul of the "anti-orientation" discrimination laws.

The Boston Globe ran a similar subject article for "single without children" article last year. This was just code for homosexuals since homosexuals do not have or produce children. (the miniscule amount that do artificially produce children are statistically irrelevant)

So homosexuals want to make a "death Ghetto"...

If this would never fly with any other group. Keep the law technically correct but having everything being an environment of intimidation would still violate any other law interpritation and bring the wrath of the justice department.


14 posted on 12/17/2006 8:14:15 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

And maybe a gay ghetto isn't such a bad idea after all. I'd rather see that than trying to promote deviancy as the "new normal" and just one more "alternative" of lifestyle.


15 posted on 12/17/2006 8:15:17 PM PST by lightman (The Office of the Keys should be exercised as some ministry needs to be exorcised)
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To: A. Pole

The Gay State, home of Barney Fwank and other homos of note.


16 posted on 12/17/2006 8:18:52 PM PST by ArtyFO (I love to smoke cigars when I adjust artillery fire at the moonbat loonery.)
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To: ChiMark
In real estate fair housing laws

That's a really good point.

Gay 'steering' surely violates Fed guidelines.  Pity SCOTUS will have to waste time to deal with 'family' discrimination in housing.

17 posted on 12/17/2006 8:19:46 PM PST by quantim (Carcinoma Senatorus = Incurable malignant cancer causing senators to think they're Presidential.)
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To: A. Pole

It's "E Pluribus Unum", @$$hole. Enough of this segregationist BS.


18 posted on 12/17/2006 8:20:51 PM PST by Killborn (Age of servitude. A government of the traitors, by the liars, for the sheep.)
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To: A. Pole

This is no revolution. Gay apartment/condo communities abound in my large city (as Time person of the year, I DO have my own city.)

As a naive new resident, I tried to rent from one such complex and was shown the "family photo album." Men hanging out by the pool with fruit, literally, hanging out of their Speedos. I got it. I moved elsewhere.


19 posted on 12/17/2006 8:22:32 PM PST by littlehouse36 (Proud Wal-Mart Shopper)
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To: A. Pole

Will these homo homes be built with tax dollars?


20 posted on 12/17/2006 8:22:34 PM PST by ArtyFO (I love to smoke cigars when I adjust artillery fire at the moonbat loonery.)
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