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Being a black man: He's not there in the house. Will he be there for his son?
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Posted on 12/18/2006 10:52:29 AM PST by celejrm313

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To: celejrm313

This is the result of the stigma being taken off unwed pregnancy.


21 posted on 12/18/2006 11:16:57 AM PST by MovementConservative (Getting back to principled conservatism.)
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To: celejrm313

This is life in Washington, DC for thousands and thousands of people. What a tragedy. What a disgrace.


22 posted on 12/18/2006 11:18:56 AM PST by RexBeach ("In war there is no substitute for victory." Douglas MacArthur)
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To: MovementConservative

Maybe that stigma should be put back on.


23 posted on 12/18/2006 11:18:58 AM PST by Anne of DC ( HO! HO! HO! MERRY CHRISTMAS!)
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To: Rummyfan

"Sounds like poor Zyhir gtes passed around like a football. But really... Zyhir??????"

Zyhir, now FDA approved without a prescription to bring long-lasting relief to even your worst symptoms. Consult your doctor and use only as directed.


24 posted on 12/18/2006 11:20:22 AM PST by RayStacy
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To: RockinRight

ROTFLMAO -- those are like 10 times funnier than the one's I had. Thanks!


25 posted on 12/18/2006 11:21:54 AM PST by jdm (Posting is a bore without 11994)
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To: celejrm313

This is scary and it's here. The public schools
can do little to change the moral and societalrot. The hard core ghetto kids from these fragmented
families see no need to learn or acieve. Those who do
straighten up are often ridiculed for being an uncle Tom
or white. The resentment of values and decency is too
common.


26 posted on 12/18/2006 11:24:10 AM PST by ChiMark
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To: celejrm313
This is really sad situations. It's like getting stuck in a hole and no way to get out, vicious circle. Other minorities, from Vietnamese in 1980's, Indians in 1990's and recent Hispanic immigrants, all came with almost nothing, yet they are able to build themselves up. I don't know what's the secret. I don't think social program is the answer. Could it be "positive attitude"? Could it be willingness to make incremental improvements to get better, one step at a time.
27 posted on 12/18/2006 11:24:46 AM PST by hfartalot
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To: Anne of DC

I believe you hit on an important point - This little boy will likely never know any kind of stability or consistency in his life. Maybe that is why the grown men act like flighty children, they never learned anything different when they were little boys.


28 posted on 12/18/2006 11:25:25 AM PST by RebelBanker (It is, however somewhat fuzzier on the subject of kneecaps.)
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To: zarf
I changed my view of gay marraige.

We need loving, responsible adults raising children....regardless of sexual preference.

Bawahahahahahah, ......Good one!

29 posted on 12/18/2006 11:26:00 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Zimbabwe, leftist success story.)
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To: RayStacy
Now now now...let's not be too hard on the creative names we Blacks give our children.

Maybe someday little Zyhir will be as well-known and as respected as Condoleezza is now.


30 posted on 12/18/2006 11:26:00 AM PST by Clifford The Big Red Dog (Woof!)
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To: RayStacy
"Zyhir, now FDA approved without a prescription ..."

LOL
31 posted on 12/18/2006 11:30:53 AM PST by GunnyHartman (The DNC, misunderestimating Dubya's strategery since 2000.)
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To: kellynch

Scary stuff, indeed; the most scary part is that this guy is a whole lot more responsible than most!


32 posted on 12/18/2006 11:34:02 AM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help m)
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To: celejrm313
Wagoner is 27, handsome, neat moustache and goatee, the oldest of five kids. Lean, muscular, not too tall. Maria, his mom's name, is tattooed on his hand. He lives with her and his sisters, making $7.50 an hour working at a teen recreation center in Brookland two days a week. He's studying for his GED.

In other words, Wagoner is a BUM. Works 2 days a week? I wouldn't care so much but I'm sure my tax money pays more for his kid's care than Wagoner does. It's time to end welfare and all these other "Black Father" government programs. I'm not responsible for bringing his Wagoner's kid into the world and I should not have to pay for it.
33 posted on 12/18/2006 11:34:15 AM PST by jackieaxe (Unsourced reporting is not reporting but a lie or a manipulation)
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To: celejrm313
The situation depicted in this story is so far removed from what I experienced growing up (white kid, suburbs) that it's unfair for me to make a judgment. I'll give Tim credit for trying to do right by his kid . . . but at 27, he's no better than a 15-year-old himself. Worse, Donne seems to believe he's acceptable. She set the target low; Tim hit it.

Hopefully Zyhir will be the one who "gets out." At least Tim's sister Tiffany, who babysits the boy as much as her brother does, seems to have some legitimate aspirations. Hopefully Zyhir will learn from her example.

34 posted on 12/18/2006 11:41:48 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: samtheman

This is the legacy of LBJ -- Generation after generation of welfare queens having fatherless babies. It has gone on so long now, it is an accepted way of life, and in most cases, a lifestyle to which most want to aspire. And we taxpayers are paying the price.


35 posted on 12/18/2006 11:44:47 AM PST by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: jackieaxe
In other words, Wagoner is a BUM. Works 2 days a week?

That's the thing right there---he's a 27-year-old man who can't muster up enough energy to work more than twelve hours a week. Twelve hours a week? You've got to be flippin' kiddin' me.

Many people work twelve hours in a day.

36 posted on 12/18/2006 11:45:12 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: celejrm313

Wagoner is lazy. He could work 30-40 hours a week and still go to class. Sure, Target sucks, but even at $8 an hour 40 hours beats 12.


37 posted on 12/18/2006 11:46:43 AM PST by jjm2111 (http://www.purveryors-of-truth.blogspot.com)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
"Many people work twelve hours in a day."

You ain't kidding.

38 posted on 12/18/2006 11:47:39 AM PST by jjm2111 (http://www.purveryors-of-truth.blogspot.com)
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To: JimRed

take a trip to africa and ask his cousin about aids. Dad probably will not be there for zyhir. a lot of relationships in the black community are tempered with the african heritage , and, most recently the hiv. Disjointed, "extended", adoptive families are the norm.


39 posted on 12/18/2006 11:49:20 AM PST by himno hero
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To: samtheman
Go back to the Johnson era and see how the democrap party purposefully created a state of social affairs designed to make a large number of black people dependent upon the government run by democrats, with welfare and scraps from the democrat pork table, and you will see the seeds of the evil still inveigling the black people of America. True, many have escaped that cycle created by government dependency, but a voting majority have not and that is precisely what the democrats planned. They are preparing a similar 'institution' for Hispanic immigrants. It will tear this nation apart, but they don't care so long as they create dependents who will keep voting them into power until it all falls down ... which won't take long now that we have a real enemy serving Evil in the world with murderous terrorism and suicide murdering.
40 posted on 12/18/2006 11:51:26 AM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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