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Test Yourself: The Mideast in 10 self-deceptions or less
Haaretz ^ | 12/19/2006 | Bradley Burston

Posted on 12/19/2006 1:05:37 AM PST by edpc

1. True or False: One side is regularly condemned internationally for war crimes it is alleged to have committed. The other is shielded, left to commit them at will.

2. True or False: One side desecrates holy places. The other respects religious shrines, and the right of all to worship as they choose.

3. True or False: One side can be trusted to observe negotiated peace accords and agreed cease-fires. The other side violates them at will.

4. True or False: One side takes care to abide by the terms of peace agreements and cease-fires, until such time as the other side blatantly violates them.

5. True or False: One side has learned the lessons of the Holocaust. The actions of the other side are reminiscent of those who perpetrated it.

6. True or False: One side has a legitimate historical claim to territory of the Holy Land, being direct descendants of its ancient inhabitants. The claims of the other do not stand up to factual inspection.

7. True or False: One side repeatedly launches attacks which kill innocent civilians. The actions of the other are acts of legitimate self-defense.

8. True or False: One side genuinely seeks peace. The other side truly wants the land on its own terms, and is prepared to continue to kill people on the other side as long as its actual desires are unattained.

9. True or False: News media are over-sympathetic to one side only.

10. True or False: The people who support and speak for the other side are either lying or self-deceived.

(Excerpt) Read more at haaretz.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: conflict; israel; middleeast; palestinians
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1 posted on 12/19/2006 1:05:40 AM PST by edpc
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Follow the URL for your score.


2 posted on 12/19/2006 1:06:54 AM PST by edpc (The pen is mightier than the sword......until you fight someone.)
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To: edpc

Creative scoRing And Pandering




HOW TO SCORE: Count 10 points for every "True" answer, none for every "False."

If you scored 0 - 20: Chances are that you still harbor a secret belief in the eventual possibility of peace.

Chances are that you are reluctant, at this point, to reveal this to anyone.

People on both sides are sure to tell you that you are deceiving yourself.

If you scored 30 - 50: Chances are you once harbored a belief in the eventual possibility of peace.

Chances are that you have stopped discussing this with people on the other side.

People on your side will now tell you that you have finally come to your senses.

You are on your way to self-deception.

If you scored 60 - 100: The Israeli-Palestinian conflict makes perfect sense to you.

You are a victim of serious self-deception. Unbeknownst to you.


3 posted on 12/19/2006 1:15:06 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: edpc

Another dhimmi grovels before his masters.


4 posted on 12/19/2006 1:17:49 AM PST by Slings and Arrows ("I smell bagels.")
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To: edpc

News media are over-sympathetic to one side only.

This is what really baffles me.


5 posted on 12/19/2006 1:53:24 AM PST by garylmoore (Faith is the assurance of things unseen.)
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"News media are over-sympathetic to one side only."

so are all the lib/dems!!!!

and the UN!!!!


6 posted on 12/19/2006 3:24:14 AM PST by hnj_00
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To: edpc

I scored 200 by saying, "True, true!", for each answer.


7 posted on 12/19/2006 3:25:53 AM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Right Wing Assault

The columnist is a first rate A-hole.


8 posted on 12/19/2006 3:40:42 AM PST by CalvaryJohn (What is keeping that damned asteroid?)
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To: edpc
If all Palestinians put down their weapons and refused to pick them up ever again, there would be peace in Israel.

If all Israelis put down their weapons and refused to pick them up ever again, then all Israelis would be dead in a week.

9 posted on 12/19/2006 3:56:46 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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To: edpc
"If you scored 60 - 100: The Israeli-Palestinian conflict makes perfect sense to you."

I scored 100, but the conflict in Palestine makes no sense to me, no more than do other wars. They are necessary because there are aggressive madmen out there who will not allow any other outcome. This makes no sense, but there it is. And, no, I do not believe that there can ever be peace in the M.E. until Islam undergoes a reformation, or is eradicated. They can't even get along with themselves.
10 posted on 12/19/2006 4:17:02 AM PST by wgflyer (Liberalism is to society what HIV is to the immune system.)
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To: edpc

Well, knowing the history of the region, I scored 100. The "other side" are the so-called "Palestinians". If one thought "the other side" was Israel, then he truly would be self-deluded or lying.


11 posted on 12/19/2006 4:21:59 AM PST by aruanan
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To: edpc

Tagged for later


12 posted on 12/19/2006 5:20:39 AM PST by browngreengold
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To: edpc

I got a perfect score. The so-called "Palestinian" arabs, as a culture, are nihilistic and terroristic, and the source of trouble for Israel.

Moreover, the majority of them receive funds from the UN as officially-designated "refugees". By definition, since they are refugees, they are not in their permanent homes. In my opinion, they should be placed in permanent homes in Jordan, Lebanon, Syria and elsewhere that is not Israel. Then, Israel should elect a government that is self-respecting and out for the greater good of that country rather than for the leaders themselves.

If these two events happen, then at long last there will be peace.

The columnist may be a dhimmi idiot, but at least he knows how to ask the right questions.


13 posted on 12/19/2006 5:34:41 AM PST by Piranha
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To: wgflyer

Ditto.


14 posted on 12/19/2006 5:44:27 AM PST by Little Ray
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To: 1st-P-In-The-Pod; A_Conservative_in_Cambridge; af_vet_rr; agrace; albyjimc2; Alexander Rubin; ...
I scored 100, and I gave myself 100 extra points for realizing that all the scores need to be reversed in order to make sense.

FRmail me to be added or removed from this Judaic/pro-Israel/Russian Jewry ping list.

Warning! This is a high-volume ping list.

15 posted on 12/19/2006 5:53:31 AM PST by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 135-139)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Until I read your post and then clicked on the article to read the whole thing, I thought Ha'aretz had somehow found some sense. Silly me.


16 posted on 12/19/2006 6:25:44 AM PST by agrace (http://www.homeschoolblogger.com/agrace/)
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To: edpc

In the movies, the good guys often leave the bad guys "beaten", but still alive, because after all, we are the "good guys" and don't just kill people.

But invariably in the movies, the "bad guy" then makes a move that requires they be killed, and they are killed, so that we can all go on with our lives.

In real life we don't take that last step, and so the bad guys go off, regroup, and come back at us again.

Is the fall of a civilization set in stone when that civilization becomes so "enlightened" that it will no longer kill it's enemies?


17 posted on 12/19/2006 7:20:41 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: agrace
Creative scoRing And Pandering !

Did you get my poor joke?
18 posted on 12/19/2006 7:35:28 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: Slings and Arrows

Shoot, I got a 100 - guess that means I am it "self-deceived"......at least according to this dhimmi. Oh well.


19 posted on 12/19/2006 9:16:56 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (Memo to Olmerde: "GET THE HELL OUT OF BIBI's HOUSE!")
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To: Convert from ECUSA

Me too. Delusion abounds at FR.


20 posted on 12/19/2006 9:18:58 AM PST by Slings and Arrows ("I smell bagels.")
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