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Tech Industry Lies About H-1B Visas
Eagle Forum ^ | December 20, 2006 | Phyllis Schlafly

Posted on 12/21/2006 5:56:27 AM PST by A. Pole

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To: YankeeReb

That's why I cannot stress enough the importance of user groups. I was having problems getting work a few years ago, along with everyone else in IT. But I decided to start researching new topics and giving presentations to user groups.

I now have companies inquiring if I am available, it's nice to be a known quality, and having companies approach you without even having to give them a resume.

Network, Network, Network!!!!!


81 posted on 12/21/2006 8:20:41 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: MunnaP
We cannot label H1Bs as security risks..

How PC! I am sure the Bosheviks mentioned in earlier posts appreciate how well their doctrine has been assimilated into American society.

No one would agree to dumping population of Pakistan or Indonesia into USA...Neither is anyone ask for that

The Pakistani and Indonesian governments are certainly asking for that... it is a major topic at the Doha round.
82 posted on 12/21/2006 8:22:40 PM PST by hedgetrimmer (I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: MunnaP
I am pro life.. I consider myself a conservative..I am for small government. I believe that people should have a right to bear arms.

I am not an H1-B but I work in hi-tech in the S.V. and have worked with many H1-Bs since the beginning of the program.

In my experience, most H1-Bs bring their culture and attitudes with them. Most of the H1-Bs that I have known had only a slight notion of the history of the U.S.A., did not really care about it one way or another as long as their paychecks arrived on time, and otherwise expounded liberal values from their home country-- more gun control, more government services, the whole nine yards.

Are suggesting that you are typical of H1-Bs? I did not read anywhere in your post that you did. What country do you come from and what part of the political spectrum do most of the H1-Bs from your country belong to? (Even better, what is the distribution?)

[Also, depending on the country of origin, the English reading, writing and speaking skills of a H1-B can be variable. This becomes more important and is more limiting with increasing responsibility of position.]

[It is a paradox that conservative senators would vote in favor of a bill that might ultimately result in more immigration and more liberal votes-- unless one takes into consideration the revolving door syndrome... if this trend is accurate it does not appear to bode well for what is left of conservatism in the U.S.A...]

83 posted on 12/21/2006 9:40:36 PM PST by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: A. Pole
I'm an electrical engineer. I work in defense. I'm the youngest engineer I know and I'm 38!.

When the oldsters retire in 7-10 years; I'm going to be promoting myself!

The 90's were a bitch for defense engineers--I was laid off 4 times when projects were cancelled or contractors consolidated....

84 posted on 12/21/2006 9:45:39 PM PST by Cogadh na Sith (There's an open road from the cradle to the tomb.)
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To: A. Pole

Our Mexican food is better also.


85 posted on 12/22/2006 6:22:19 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: hedgetrimmer

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I am sure the Bosheviks mentioned in earlier posts appreciate how well their doctrine has been assimilated into American society.


Bolshevik doctrine is indeed assimilated into American society ..that why a large number of people seem to think that they are entitled to a cushy job and not able to tolerate competition...


86 posted on 12/22/2006 8:10:36 AM PST by MunnaP
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To: RFT1

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An overheated housing market between 2000-2005 and runaway spending by the Gov is what kept the US economy going, not immigration.


Think over a longer term...Not 5-6 years ..but decades at a time....Without immigrant demand the housing prices would have never gathered as much steam as they did...Extra immigrant demand for housing is the balance tipping factor...Take away immigrant demand and the 2000 slowdown would be continuing even today...


87 posted on 12/22/2006 8:13:28 AM PST by MunnaP
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To: SteveH

Immigrants come to this country because they reject the 'values' for their home countries like rampant corruption, poverty, drug trade, illegal arms trade.

When they come they do bring their culture and attitude baggage with them..But people come to this country to change ..nobody comes here with a mindset that I am never going to change anything I have...

H1Bs are going to be as diverse in terms of opinion as any group you can choose at random...A overwhelming majority of them are going to abide by the law and would make very excellent citizen with whatever opinions they might have....

As I said earlier...The point I want to make is
'Legal immigrants are suffering because of the bureaucratic hurdles in the immigration process'.

I keep hearing 'If they want to come, they should come legally.' I am here legally and I am suffering...I just want to point to the plight of the ones who do try to come legally.......





88 posted on 12/22/2006 8:25:24 AM PST by MunnaP
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To: SteveH

[It is a paradox that conservative senators would vote in favor of a bill that might ultimately result in more immigration and more liberal votes-- unless one takes into consideration the revolving door syndrome... if this trend is accurate it does not appear to bode well for what is left of conservatism in the U.S.A...]


Conservative senators understand the wider issues this country faces...Aging population, underfunded social security, birth rate under replacement level. They support more immigration because they have a deeper understanding of the issues..The only way this country is going to maintain a semblance of dominance in the world is through consistent growth..The consistent growth is going to come from where???
There in lies the whole question....


89 posted on 12/22/2006 8:31:37 AM PST by MunnaP
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To: MunnaP
people seem to think that they are entitled to a cushy job and not able to tolerate competition...

I, for one, welcome the competition:

Like any non-hindi or non-chineses speaking engineer, I suffered through all the professors and even a couple of supervisors who could not speak english.

I am a better engineer than them. I will always be a better engineer.

90 posted on 12/22/2006 8:42:31 AM PST by Cogadh na Sith (There's an open road from the cradle to the tomb.)
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To: MunnaP
I disagree with the premise that skilled, technical workers (the recipients of H-1B visas) are necessarily Democrats. Car valets, farmhands, etc., I can imagine; If one wishes to oppose the legal immigration of talented, productive (and taxpaying) individuals, most of whom want to become legal permanent residents (or naturalized citizens), they should feel free to do so. But on other grounds.
91 posted on 12/22/2006 9:12:27 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: A. Pole

There were real shortages of engineers during the late 90s, which was when the program really ramped up big time. Problem is, since the Dot Com bust, it never was properly ramped down with the slight exception of a cooling off period after 9/11. In fairness, some companies are more by the book than others regarding pay - some H1Bs are paid the same as Permanent Residents and Citizens (i.e. at the companies who play fair) and some are paid lower via various schemes, some of which are probably technically illegal. Shame on the companies who engage in this latter behavior. I would be in favor of a general crack down on H1B rule violations and a vast reduction in the quota. I would also strongly favor a new rule which required a DoD like security clearance for the remaining H1Bs, given the risks that having those who may have conflicted loyalties able to mess with financial systems and access to critical technology pose. Any who failed the clearance would be booted from the country - that would be most interesting for the many PRC nationals here on H1Bs.


92 posted on 12/22/2006 4:11:19 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: MunnaP
and not able to tolerate competition...

So Americans must compete with slaves. I guess thats their entitlement under "free trade".
93 posted on 12/22/2006 6:13:19 PM PST by hedgetrimmer (I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: A. Pole

Duncan Hunter is the only candidate that would do something to correct this.


95 posted on 02/16/2007 11:19:15 PM PST by Kevmo (The first labor of Huntercles: Defeating the 3-headed RINO)
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To: MunnaP
Bolshevik doctrine is indeed assimilated into American society

Hmm, Bolshevism or Free Market based slavery. Very difficult choice indeed.

96 posted on 02/17/2007 5:17:32 AM PST by A. Pole (Slavery is a natural and logical consequence of the free market.)
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To: 1rudeboy
we threw a bunch of tea into Boston Harbor. Why was that, again?

Unfortunately, everyone has forgotten why.

97 posted on 02/17/2007 5:25:21 AM PST by Hardastarboard (DemocraticUnderground.com is an internet hate site.)
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