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Ethiopian tanks move into battle with Somalia Islamists-(update)
asia ^ | December 23, 2006 | AFP

Posted on 12/22/2006 10:08:12 PM PST by Flavius

BAIDOA, Somalia (AFP) - Ethiopia moved tanks and other reinforcements into the battle zone for a third day of fighting against Islamist forces in southern Somalia, witnesses said, while the Islamists vowed an all-out war.

As the clashes intensified on twin fronts, the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) said that fighting had left "dozens" dead and left many homeless.

But the government said its Ethiopian-backed forces had killed more than 500 Islamist fighters ince Wednesday when violence erupted near the government-held town of Baidoa.

"We are very concerned about the plight of civilians who might get caught up in the fighting," said Pascal Hundt, the ICRC's chief for Somalia.

"We call on all parties involved in the clashes to spare and protect civilians and to take every precaution when conducting military operations," he said in a statement.

The ICRC urged rival sides "to ensure that wounded and captured fighters are protected and receive treatment and that medical staff, hospitals and clinics are spared from attacks Hospitals and clinics in the region had admitted at least 200 wounded since Wednesday, the ICRC said.

Somali Information Minister Ali Jama said fatalities were reported on two fronts east and south of the Baidoa, about 250 kilometres (155 miles) northwest of the capital Mogadishu.

"The combined total from two fronts is over 500 Islamists killed since Wednesday," Jama told AFP.

The figure could not be independently verified.

"Most of those killed are innocent children who have been sent to the frontline. It is unfortunate because we have been forced into this ... we do not like shedding the blood of children," Jama added.

Fighting erupted early Wednesday, hours after the expiry of an Islamist-imposed ultimatum for thousands of Ethiopian troops the Islamists say have been deployed to back the government.

"Our Mujahideen are ready to defend themselves from the invading enemies," Islamic commander Hassan Bullow told AFP.

"This war is a religious obligation and we are here to fight for our religion against the enemies until we die."

Ethiopia is supporting Somalia's weakened government against the Islamist forces, which control the capital Mogadishu and much of the rest of the war-ravaged Horn of Africa nation.

The two sides traded heavy shellfire on Friday east and south of Baidoa, the government said.

"The fighting is continuing heavily on both fronts," Jama told AFP.

"Much fighting is taking place, mainly in Idale and Dinsoor," he added, referring to outposts about 60 kilometres (40 miles) and 120 kilometres south of Baidoa.

In central Somalia, residents said Ethiopian military trucks headed to Sadehigle, outside the Muslim-held town of Bandiradley, about 630 kilometers (400 miles) north of Mogadishu, sparking fears of possible clashes.

Witnesses said Ethiopian tanks traveled overnight to Daynunay, a flashpoint garrison town about 30 kilometres to the east of Baidoa, where shelling was reported.

Clashes erupted on Wednesday, a day after the expiry of a deadline issued by the Islamists for Ethiopian troops to pull out.

The Islamists have complained about the silence of the Arab League and African Union over the dispute.

"Why are they ignoring what is taking place in the ground?" asked Sheikh Mohamoud Ibrahim Sulley, a leading Islamist official.

"The world is silent today while Ethiopian forces are killing us inside our country, but tomorrow when we defeat them and chase them things will be changed, we will inter their territories and at that moment the world will shout," Sulley warned.

The fighting and war of words have come despite a statement by European Commission humanitarian chief Louis Michel on Wednesday that he had secured the commitment of both sides to observe a truce and resume peace talks.

Arab League-mediated talks in Khartoum collapsed in November when Islamists refused to negotiate until Ethiopia withdraws its troops.


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KEYWORDS: ethiopia; globaljihad; jihad; somalia
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1 posted on 12/22/2006 10:08:14 PM PST by Flavius
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To: Flavius
despite a statement by European Commission humanitarian chief Louis Michel on Wednesday that he had secured the commitment of both sides to observe a truce and resume peace talks.

It's long since time that cease fires and good intentions be removed from further consideration in international disputes.

It's time to fight wars to d definitive conclusion and let the stronger side win...no matter the civilian or military cost.

2 posted on 12/22/2006 10:17:53 PM PST by zarf
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well i think * censored *

thats all i can say about that due to client server privileges
3 posted on 12/22/2006 10:22:08 PM PST by Flavius (Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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"The world is silent today while Ethiopian forces are killing us inside our country

The world is eating popcorn watching the show at this point.
4 posted on 12/22/2006 10:28:09 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: zarf

Agree.


5 posted on 12/22/2006 10:41:45 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: zarf
"Most of those killed are innocent children who have been sent to the frontline. It is unfortunate because we have been forced into this ... we do not like shedding the blood of children," Jama added."

I feel for the Ethiopian forces that will be confronted by these tactics. Iraq faced these "human waves", in its war with Islamic Iran and didn't do too well. Firing on human waves of twelve year olds proved difficult for the Iraqi troops. I think that is why Saddam began to use poison gas shells. If we are truly engaged in a war with radical Islam, then our troops will see such tactics used against them at some point. They will have to do what is necessary...America needs to do some deep soul searching. The cost of winning this war will be higher then anything except losing it.

6 posted on 12/22/2006 10:41:47 PM PST by KDD
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""The world is silent today while Ethiopian forces are killing us inside our country, but tomorrow when we defeat them and chase them things will be changed, we will inter their territories and at that moment the world will shout," Sulley warned."

Dude, there is a reason for that. Most of the sane world is sick of the islamofacist bullsh*t that they don't care anymore if y'all are butchered like the hog that is going to be dinner.


7 posted on 12/22/2006 10:48:03 PM PST by MissouriConservative (Libertarian = aid and comfort to the democratic party)
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To: zarf
"It's time to fight wars to d definitive conclusion...."

I subscribe to Sherman's philosophy. Make it so horrible they will never want to do it again. War is a nasty game with only one rule, people die. Let the children play till they get tired of it.
8 posted on 12/22/2006 10:55:59 PM PST by Dawggie
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To: Flavius
I'm waiting for Ethiopia to break out the Ark Of the Covenant and really do some killin. I wonder if the Islamic scum would figure out they are rootin for the wrong god then.
9 posted on 12/22/2006 11:01:31 PM PST by chuckles
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This war is a religious obligation and we are here to fight for our religion against the enemies until we die."

Oblige large numbers of them.

To the last whelp...

L

10 posted on 12/22/2006 11:03:03 PM PST by Lurker (History's most dangerous force is government and the crime syndicates that grow with it.)
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To: Flavius

God bless Ethiopia as they fight to keep Somalia from turning into the next Al Qaeda redoubt. They are fighting a war that must be won or Al Qaeda will sit astride the horn of Africa and important shipping lanes and have a new training ground for their terrorism. Ethiopia is saving us and the rest of the civilized world a lot of grief. They are literally on the front lines of preventing the spread of the Islamic radical cancer into Africa. We need to supply them with whatever they need to defeat these Islamist parasites.


11 posted on 12/22/2006 11:09:57 PM PST by MikeA (Where's the media to call the elections a "temper tantrum" by America like they did in 1994?)
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To: Flavius; 4butnomorethan30characters; Uncle Ike; Bahbah

LOOKY


12 posted on 12/22/2006 11:15:38 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: MikeA

Cluster bombs


13 posted on 12/22/2006 11:18:56 PM PST by Dawggie
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To: Flavius
"Most of those killed are innocent children who have been sent to the frontline. It is unfortunate because we have been forced into this ... we do not like shedding the blood of children," Jama added.

The Islamic forces don't mind. Not at all.

14 posted on 12/22/2006 11:33:30 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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To: KDD

ping


15 posted on 12/22/2006 11:34:26 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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To: KDD
Iraq faced these "human waves", in its war with Islamic Iran and didn't do too well. Firing on human waves of twelve year olds proved difficult for the Iraqi troops. I think that is why Saddam began to use poison gas shells.

...on a similiar note, this psychological impact inspired the Third Reich to institute the gas chamber.

16 posted on 12/22/2006 11:38:30 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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To: He Rides A White Horse
The very idea of using our children as weapons or bait is inconceivable and would never even occur to the Western Mind. Their actions in this regard alone highlights the difference between Islamic Wahabbi culture and almost all other cultures.

...on a similar note, this psychological impact inspired the Third Reich to institute the gas chamber.

Yes the pychcology is the same. The chambers allowed the Germans to "detach" themselves from the horror being done. The gas shells put the same kind of psychological distance between the Iraqi troops and their horrific target.

17 posted on 12/23/2006 12:39:31 AM PST by KDD
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To: Dawggie

Funny you should mention that. I sent out an email rant to about 30 people on 9/12/2001, that included this quote from WTS:

"We cannot change the hearts of those people, but we can make war so terrible...[and] make them so sick of war that generations would pass away before they would again appeal to it."


18 posted on 12/23/2006 1:05:55 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Flavius
"The Islamists have complained about the silence of the Arab League and African Union over the dispute.

"Why are they ignoring what is taking place in the ground?" asked Sheikh Mohamoud Ibrahim Sulley, a leading Islamist official.

"The world is silent today while Ethiopian forces are killing us inside our country, but tomorrow when we defeat them and chase them things will be changed, we will inter their territories and at that moment the world will shout," Sulley warned."

I have a feeling the Ethiopia is the African Union and the rest of the world speaking out. I hope our government is backing Ethiopia with money, material and advisers.
19 posted on 12/23/2006 1:34:19 AM PST by neb52
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

So there are others out there who will fight these monsters.


20 posted on 12/23/2006 3:39:44 AM PST by Bahbah (.Regev, Goldwasser & Shalit, we are praying for you.)
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