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The Biggest Story Of Our Time: Self Extinction (Mark Steyn: Its The Demography, Stupid Alert)
Chicago Sun Times ^
| 12/24/2006
| Mark Steyn
Posted on 12/24/2006 4:11:13 AM PST by goldstategop
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Mark Steyn grasp the meaning of the Judeo-Christian message better than anymore else: Man has a duty to be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth with progeny. The post-modern West by contrast, holds there is nothing worth living for and dying for and is the first civilization in history that has elected to arrange its own extinction. Call it autocide. Set against this dismal picture, is the miracle of Christianity which posits that the birth of Jesus is to underscore how human life is the ultimate miracle. And if people miss that they don't truly understand why Christianity celebrates Christmas. Sex in other words, is more than just about the pursuit of world pleasures; its a contract between past and future. Christians understand the connection far better than secularists do and that is why they are thriving. We better hope they do win for waiting in the wings is Islam. The ultimate anti-Christian ideology and one far more potent than Communism because it believes in its own destiny, divinely inspired as the West believes in nothing and has nothing to offer in terms of the future. Demography is a big word and there's plenty at stake in the world today and in the world of tomorrow.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
To: goldstategop
On the other, without a newborn babe, man is ultimately powerless. For, without new life, there can be no civilization, no society, no nothing... Can someone please, explain this simple RULE to the proponents of Gay Marriage?
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posted on
12/24/2006 4:21:52 AM PST
by
Van Jenerette
(U.S.Army 1967-1991 Infantry OCS, Hall of Fame, Ft. Benning Ga.)
To: goldstategop
It's about balance. Too many people is just as bad as too few. 6.5 billion is apparently too many.
It's interesting that the "number of man" (666) thing is actually written as six hundred three score and six in the King James, which if parsed out is 600 20 20 20 6, or 6,002,020,206 (6 billion plus ). We passed this number about 6 years ago. A little fun with numerology, which was a popular pastime centuries ago. Especially concerning riddles. Think somebody back then may have been a mathematician?
To: Van Jenerette
You can't have mankind without man. The hedonist Left has succeeded in decoupling sex from procreation and has managed to ensure mankind will have nothing to celebrate. If mankind has no future, all the moaning and whining about global warming is beyond silly; if we're all extinct, whether the planet gets heated or not will be the least of our concerns. I said on another thread on Salim Mansour's review of Mark Steyn's best-seller
America Alone, that West needs to make demography a policy priority. Granted, its less trendy than global warming but way more important to the future of the world - and whether that world will continue to characterize itself as civilized.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
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posted on
12/24/2006 4:39:14 AM PST
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: SunkenCiv
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posted on
12/24/2006 4:57:17 AM PST
by
sodpoodle
(if you can't handle the truth, try satire.)
To: goldstategop
Even demographics become irrelevant when minds are flipped by force or convenient opinions of the collective.
Consider it a force multiplier.
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posted on
12/24/2006 4:59:33 AM PST
by
PGalt
To: PGalt
No worry. Algore will never know if he's right. Nor will a generation that gave up breeding be around to discover the answer. So in a way, the Left's fight against global warming seems to be gradually be resolving itself.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
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posted on
12/24/2006 5:04:16 AM PST
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: goldstategop
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posted on
12/24/2006 5:07:58 AM PST
by
PGalt
To: goldstategop
The Creator might give mankind a second bite of that apple?
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posted on
12/24/2006 5:10:18 AM PST
by
sodpoodle
(if you can't handle the truth, try satire.)
To: Gunny Gene
6.5 billion is apparently too many. Bull.
You could take every human being on the planet, give them a half an acre of land, and they wouldn't fill up the American Southwest.
L
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posted on
12/24/2006 5:11:44 AM PST
by
Lurker
(History's most dangerous force is government and the crime syndicates that grow with it.)
To: goldstategop; Tijeras_Slim
To: Lurker
Interesting Demographic data;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_population
Estimates of the number of human beings who have ever lived on Earth constitute an extremely large range, with low estimates around 45 billion, and the highest estimates topping out around 125 billion. Many of the more robust estimates fall into the range of 90 to 110 billion humans.
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posted on
12/24/2006 5:16:52 AM PST
by
sodpoodle
(if you can't handle the truth, try satire.)
To: goldstategop
The post-modern West by contrast, holds there is nothing worth living for and dying for and is the first civilization in history that has elected to arrange its own extinction. Call it autocide. Kind'a like cop-assisted suicide on a grand scale... only replace the cop with a bloodthirsty, fanatical fazool. There are many similarities to Rome's fall... and I'm sure, many more that we just have no knowledge of... but it's the closest scenario I can come up with.
In the past, 230 years, we've had strong, courageous men appear in desperate times to pull our chestnuts from the fire. Could it be with our stylish, new criteria of politically-correct selection... we have made it impossible for these men to ever again play their role in the American story?
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posted on
12/24/2006 5:17:10 AM PST
by
johnny7
("We took a hell of a beating." -'Vinegar Joe' Stilwell)
To: Van Jenerette
Amateurs study tactics. Professionals study logistics. And victors study demographics.
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posted on
12/24/2006 5:38:14 AM PST
by
RKBA Democrat
(Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
To: goldstategop
"I said on another thread on Salim Mansour's review of Mark Steyn's best-seller America Alone, that West needs to make demography a policy priority. Granted, its less trendy than global warming but way more important to the future of the world - and whether that world will continue to characterize itself as civilized."
Folks are beginning to listen. Every major idea that has eventually come to grip our attention started off with a few lonely souls crying in the wilderness.
We shouldn't confuse fads with actual trends.
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posted on
12/24/2006 5:43:18 AM PST
by
RKBA Democrat
(Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
To: goldstategop
What an appalling lack of "enlightened" Liberal thinking on the part of Mr Steyn! It is the duty of every truly enlightened person to adhere to ones own personal ethic of comfort, convenience and debauchery. So what if we face extinction because of our fantasist beliefs? At least we'll go extinct being what we are - Cowardly, self-indulgent sybarites with a fatuous faith in our own superiority. Merry Christmas all.
To: RKBA Democrat
Amateurs study tactics. Professionals study logistics. And victors study demographics.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
And I study women, and they love it!
Get with the plan, go forth and multiply!
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posted on
12/24/2006 5:44:24 AM PST
by
Candor7
(Into Liberal flatulance goes the best hope of the West, and who wants to be a smart feller?)
To: johnny7
"Could it be with our stylish, new criteria of politically-correct selection... we have made it impossible for these men to ever again play their role in the American story?"
You have a point. Speaking the truth is simply not considered to be politically savvy in our current culture. You know, the truth might actually (GASP!) offend someone.
Another reason why it's unlikely that you'll ever have to worry about seeing me in political office.
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posted on
12/24/2006 5:50:08 AM PST
by
RKBA Democrat
(Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
To: Lurker
With all due respect, you misunderstood what I was saying. By "too many" is meant that the fact that the growth rate slowing and actually reversing in most of the world is de-facto evidence that the current global population is at or nearing it's maximum sustainable level unless something happens to "raise the bar" so to speak. Accessible resources ( such as water, energy, food production), standard of living, technology, and a myriad of other factors all enter into the equation.
To: goldstategop
Among them is a study on "robot rights." In a nutshell, if robots advance to some form of consciousness, they'd be entitled to welfare. The state would be obliged to provide "robo-healthcare," as the report puts it, plus no doubt robo-pensions and all the rest. That will happen only after they get voting rights.
I can see it now: Moveon.bot
Maybe your robot will be deemed a 3/5 person, like the 3/5 Compromise our founding fathers put into our Constitution
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posted on
12/24/2006 5:59:45 AM PST
by
Popman
("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
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