The Biggest Story Of Our Time: Self Extinction (Mark Steyn: Its The Demography, Stupid Alert)

Chicago Sun Times ^ | 12/24/2006 | Mark Steyn

[ex-snook]

See Buchanan's book for a heads-up written some years ago. The Death of the West

[raybbr]

I don't mean people like you and me. We get it. But, elites in this country don't. Nor do liberals. And, even some republicans.

Many Americans are called racists for even suggesting that hispanics assimilate and become Americans. There now appears to be double standards for everyone.

"Illegals are okay as long as they read the Bible." is the justification for this invasion of foreigners. It's tiring and frustrating. If they were true Christians they wouldn't steal from their neighbor and covet his home and land.

Using religion to justify any illegal behavior is wrong. In both cases.

[sodpoodle]

The exception, of course, is China, where infanticide is government policy. 200 million young men without brides will soon bring that jaded experiment to a screeching halt;
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Those 200 million young men will be marching to the USA to claim all those female children adopted by the Hollywood elites.

War has always been about the testosterone (stupid)!

[ClaireSolt]

You might also, occasionally think about the fact that illegal immigration would not even be on the radar screen if Algore and John Kerry had been elected.

[Mrs. Don-o]

Yes, it turns out that contraception, sterilization and abortion can destroy families, nations and civilizations. Who'da thunkit?

Related news flash: it also turns out that children flourish best in a family that has (a) a mother and (b) a father who are (c) married to each other.

Here's just one indicator: in 1965, when Daniel Patrick Moynihan published "The Negro Family: The Case for National Action," his research found that the major cause of Black poverty, welfare dependency, low academic achievement, high crime, etc. was out-of-wedlock childbirth, resulting in father-absent families. He said the Negro family was "in an unprecedented crisis" of "social pathology" largely because 25% of births were out of wedlock. (This was compared with 3% white illegitimacy.)

Today 25% of White births are out of wedlock--- compared to 15% of Asian-American births, 45% of Hispanic births, and almost 70% of black births.

If it was an "unprecedented crisis" of "social pathology" 40 years ago, what is it now?

Twenty-somethings and thirty-something, quit messin' around. Get married. And then --- hey! You know what to do.

[Gunny Gene]

The Book was certainly NEVER intended by Apostle Saint John as a justification for hyper-apocalyptic chicken-Christians living 2,000 years later to invent Malthusian faux-overpopulation excuses to let the Moslems inherit the Earth.

I'm mildly familiar with a number of competing views, etc. regarding Revelation ( and other books of the Bible, and those of competing religions for that matter, including the Gnostic texts ). Which is why I included the "fun with numerology" statement. I apologize if my attempt at humor was ill-conceived. :) Thanks for the detail, and Merry Christmas :) .

[BW2221]

Actually, under the Clinton administration, the Department of Justice deported more illegals and had far more prosecutions of companies employing illegals than the Bush administration. I hardly believe immigration enforcement is a top priority for an AG named Alberto Gonzales.

On the issue of immigration and border security, Bush's philosophy is virtually no different than Gore's or Kerry's. Bush and Tony Snow have both said that the incoming Congress will make it much easier to pass a comprehensive immigration package.

Explain to a Reagan Democrat why it makes sense to be fighting in Iraq when we have done virtually nothing since 9-11 to secure our borders.

This is an area in which Bush has been a total failure.

[sodpoodle]

The discussion of Revelations and other religious prophecies is micro demographics....macro demographics includes religious movements, but is not limited to them.

I believe there are many other components that will map out human destiny....all of which are probably predictible, but inevitable.

As a species, we are subject to intelligent design and its Creator.

[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

Okey doke.

Merry Christmas to you and yours, as well.

best, OP

[Chickensoup]

Children of Men is not playing here in the Northeast. Interesting since Rotten tomatoes gave it a 92% positive review.

I never sit through a theatre show, perhaps twice a year.

Three got to sees this season
Nativity
Pursuit of Happyness
and Children of Men.

So nice to see conservative films making it to screen.

[BW2221]

You're 100% correct. In previous immigrations, people immigrated to the U.S. to become Americans and part of the melting pot. Now they want to retail their old national identities and customs while enjoying the financial benefits.

It's not just the fault of the Democrats. Many Republicans want cheap labor for their rich friends and supporters. I'm sure many of the Bush family's wealthy friends need immigrant labor for jobs they don't want to do - mowing the lawn, cleaning the pool, taking care of their kids, etc.

[theBuckwheat]

I heard this morning that the autism rate is now 1 in 166
births. That is substantially up in ten years from the rate of 1 in 10,000 births! Now, 1/166 is roughly 0.75%. I don't know what fraction of autistic children will grow up to be able to form families, but the birth rate in the West doesn't take into account this fraction of births that will not be able to themselves reproduce in time. This discount in the birth rate must be taken into account for any demographic projections. It must make the demographic trends even more towards self-extinction than authors like Stein have written.

[FlyVet]

See Buchanan's book for a heads-up written some years ago. The Death of the West

Books on this subject are piling up. The one I read was "The West's Last Chance" by Tony Blankley.

This morning on the "This Week" there was an extremely smug "journalist" named Melinda Hennenberger, tooting the Global Warming horn again. I guess it's easier to tout what will be the least of our problems than real problems.

[Tax-chick]

Russia would be the penultimate Islamic power with The Bomb

Pakistan would be toast.

[Pokey78]

Steyn ping!

[aculeus]

bttt

[finnigan2]

"The best thing that the state can do to increase birthrates is not to penalize those who are inclined to have them. And this is one area where I depart the conservative reservation, as I think our current tax structure is incredibly punitive towards those who do have children."

- Although Steyn may have touched upon it in his book, I think you are right in the fact that Western economies have slowly evolved since WW11 to require both parents to work if they want to have any hope of improving their financial situation, over time.
This mitigates against large families since women can no longer afford to stay home and leave one bread winner to support a big brood. This, combined with the high cost of housing in Europe makes it virtually impossible to buy a home large enough for more than one child families.
We get several programs here from England which deal with couples there searching for and buying better homes. It's appalling and pathetic to see these cramped two bedroom row houses selling for $200,000 plus - the prospective buyers sitting in kitchens the size of a large walk in closet and thinking that their getting a good deal.
I couldn't see raising three or four children in such conditions either, especially since these couples reasonably expect to have enough money left over for a car and an annual vacation in the sun.
More and more of them are going to emigrate which is only going to accelerate the trend toward Eurabia.
As an interesting footnote, the French have never been big emigrants - especially to Quebec, where many consider that Quebecers speak a poor dialectic of French that they look down upon. Nevertheless, I have read recent reports that French families have increasingly been moving there, attracted by cheap housing costs and low taxes. One emigrate even marveled that he was now able to hold down two jobs to increase his standard of living. In France, holding more than one job is either difficult (due to high unemployment) or against some regulations which penalize those who do.

[beyond the sea]

Exactly!!!!

[sodpoodle]

"I couldn't see raising three or four children in such conditions either, especially since these couples reasonably expect to have enough money left over for a car and an annual vacation in the sun"
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The Greatest Generation likely had 10 siblings and were raised in similar conditions. My GG parents,aunts and uncles were raised in a 3 bedroom house with no running water, no electricity and an outhouse. All the sons went to war as did the sons-in-law. The GG families had 6 children, thereafter 4 and now we are down to 1 or no children.

Some sort of demographic rhythm playing out here - I cannot explain it otherwise.

[GolfHacker]

Does he mention anything about stopping Muslim immigration??