Posted on 12/30/2006 2:02:44 PM PST by grundle
A hospital has lost nearly £2.5m worth of funding because it treated too many patients.
Nurses and doctors at Ipswich Hospital had done so well in meeting their waiting lists targets they breached an agreement on how soon people saw consultants.
Some patients were seen with a week rather than the agreed minimum 122 days.
Funding body East Suffolk Primary Care Trusts had introduced the limit to manage demand.
It decided the extra work was too costly and refused to pay the £2.5m bill - Ipswich Hospital is already £16m in the red.
A hospital spokeswoman described the episode as a "local glitch" and said it had no significant implications for hospitals nationally or for NHS funding.
She explained the arrangement was thought to be the best way to ensure no one jumped queues and everyone was waiting a similar length of time.
The spokeswoman said: "We made the agreement on the waiting times since it was thought to be the best way of ensuring that patients were seen on a first come, first served basis and that waiting times were equalised.
"In a number of cases we had breached the agreement - for understandable reasons, because we had spare capacity - and treated patients too quickly."
She said the hospital was working to ensure there are no further mistakes, adding: "The money will still come from the taxpayer - but from one purse not another."
Trust chief executive Carole Taylor-Brown told The Daily Telegraph: "It would be great if we were fully resourced to do everything. But we are given a certain amount for the year."
The Government wants patients to wait no longer than six months before seeing a consultant.
"Hillary Care" coming to a hospital near you!
What's in store for our horse-piddles if we ever get Hellery Health Care.
Ill continue to pay for my own healthcare..
The UK is even more screwed up than us.
I would imagine Ipswich Hospital is in the red because of indigent Muslims (as opposed to indigent illegals).
The American health care system is far from perfect, but at least we haven't sunk to this level.
My point is that it WILL get this bad in the U.S. if Hillary has her way.
Some patients were seen with a week rather than the agreed minimum 122 days.No, you idiots. That's managing/limiting the supply. The demand is still there; it's just not being met. (And undoubtedly, patients are suffering, probably dying, because of that.)Funding body East Suffolk Primary Care Trusts had introduced the limit to manage demand.
122 days that's 4 months!!!!!!!!
"What's in store for our horse-piddles if we ever get Hellery Health Care."
Yes, indeed and the Dems are working on that.
Children Take Forefront of Health-Care Plan. (Democrats push towareds universal healthcare)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1760375/posts
For Democrats, covering these youngsters has obvious appeal. It would allow lawmakers to champion solutions to problems of people who they say have been a low priority for Republicans. It also would be a step toward universal health coverage, an old and elusive goal of many in the party.
I tell people that if you like the service you get at the DMV, you're going to love socialized medicine.
Vermont's socialized medicine works much the same way. My sister in law had to wait nine months for a back operation (while being kept on morphine) and three months for hip replacement, after falling off her horse again. For three months she was given a walker and more drugs until they could get around to fixing the broken hip. She is only 48 and should have had pins put in the hip, instead of a whole replacement because she is too young to be given a replacement that only lasts ten to fifteen years.
122 days that's 4 months!!!!!!!!
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And that's the minimum!
Reads like a story from The Onion.
Orwell lives.
Mark Stein mentions a case in British Columbia of a woman who was expecting twins and went to the hospital when her contractions were four minutes apart, only to be told that they had no bed for her. They did a bed search on their computer and found that there were no hospital beds available any where in British Columbia, but they could fly her to Edmonton to have her babies, which they did.
Instead of ensuring British-quality medicine for all, they have ensured Pakistani-quality medicine for all. Albion akbar!
This is incorrect. If someone wants to pay for private healthcare, or for health insurance to cover it, then they are free to do so. Contrary to what you may believe the UK is actually not a Soviet state....
Lest we forget
Bookmarked - great post!
thegreatprion: this is a must read!
Socialized Medicine:
The efficiency of the Post Office
The flexibility of the IRS and
The warmth and compassion of the DMV
This sounds like something from the Onion. It can't be true. Can it?
self-ping
I had to check first to make sure it wasn't Scrappleface.. It is so absurd it borders on insane...
Obstetrics only have to wait ten months.
I think that's in it in a nutshell...
If you like the way the government delivers your mail. you'll LOVE the way they deliver your healthcare.
I work the Fast Track in the local Emergency Department. Our goal is to get non-emergent cases treated and streeted in less than an hour. My personal best is 12 minutes. This is IN SPITE of all of the forms the government requires.
Use the search feature before you post and article from last summer. This is old news that has been well wrung out on FR.
Unfortunately it is coming to a hospital near you, if the Lib's get their way and Clinton care becomes a reality.
LOL! Better than Canada I suppose.....LOL.....Bwahahahahahaha!
People who support socialized health care really musn't have the first damn clue.
There is the little matter of the 24 hour rule, em2vn, or dont' you know that one. If an article was posted more than 24 hours ago it is fair game to post it again. Lots of people had not seen the original article, and I am sure that the BS that caused this article to be printed(the waiting time for patients)is still in effect and just as viable today as it was last year. All of you self appointed posting police need to get a life. Don't want to read this thread? Don't click on it. That's easy enough isn't it?
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It true, the Queen's phalange was
stuck up her nose for 6 months
before seeing a consultant.
This man waited 6 months
and this growth covered his back.

English Health Care Will
Come to America Someday.
I wonder how many leftists also think that Saddam was executed way too quickly? Most leftist are against all forms of executions for everyone in the world who is sentenced to death. Why can't executions move just as fast over here in the U.S.? The A.C.L.U. among all of the other leftist groups are a real pain in the rear! Political correctness all over the world makes all world politics very goofy!
You won't be able to pay out-of-pocket for any care... if medicine goes socialized nationally. Some of the excerpts of the Hillarycare papers implied you would be restricted to a "district" and could be fined/imprisoned for going outside said "district" for healthcare without prior government approval.
Sounds like she should stay off the horse;)
You give her too much credit. Any normal person would have given up the horse after the back injury. What do you expect from someone who depends on Vermont socialized medicine?
Sloppy editing. Based on the rest of the story, I'll fix it.
The Government wants patients to wait no longer than six less than four months before seeing a consultant.
I did search for "Fined For Being Too Fast" before I posted. There was no other thread with that title.
Bomkers.
That's certainly what we need in the U.S.
Typical Brits. They can't get anything right. We beat them in two wars; had to save their asses in two other wars; they talk funny, and they like soccer. What do you expect?
Sounds like they need to create more beauracracy to bring the wait time back up to "the agreed minimum 122 days". That should bring the cost and quality of health care at that facility back to the socialiast/communist norm. I heard that Cuba, the premier healthcare center of the world, brought in more Spanish doctors and medicine today for Castro, 12/30/2006. Oh yeah, "Clinton 2008!" /s
I know the socialized medicine of Europe really sucks, but this is so far out there that I'm wondering if it's satire?
MM
Please don't get me wrong, I really love the UK. It's where all my ancestry came from. But from the news articles I read, I have to wonder if Lenin's Tomb has found a new custodian. Perhaps it's media bias, or perhaps the English are undergoing temporary insanity. It's not just one thing; we have coddling of the beheaders, pointy knife amnesty, universal healthcare (that must wait exactly 122 days), and then there's Prince Charles and Red Ken. Also signs in 37 languages, everything except English. One must wonder.
This certainly qualifies for the Hillary Archives Opposition Research Thread, don't you think?
Yes, thanks. Happy New Year.
It doesn't get much scarier than that ... I sure am thrilled to live in a country where my fellow citizens taught pub pols a lesson because they weren't pure enough and instead wound up making this kind of thing more and more likely.
One more time - you take the best you can get and keep hammering on them instead of taking the worst available who will totally ignore your hammering.
#49 not meant for you, Lainey.
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