Posted on 01/03/2007 8:28:33 AM PST by Ramius
He's a minor. Out at 18 I bet.
I don't know the laws up there. They may keep him until he is 21. Depending on his age, they might even be able to try him as an adult.
If I were defending him, I'd probably go for the 'victim of bullies' defense.
Makes sense.
Thanks. I thought it must be gang or culture related....will be interesting to find out.
I lived in a neighborhood so tough they didn't use guns -- they inserted the bullets manually.
Have to give credit to the folks on the Hilltop but Hilltop has been a walk in the park for more thn a few years now. The east side is becoming what the Hilltop was. I patrolled the Hilltop in the early 90's. Today I don't think I'd mind doing that as a pre retirement beat
Those signs are all that are needed because we understand that criminals and "youths" respect our laws. But we had better go after smokers and conservatives. (President Bush is the greatest terrorist in the world after all.)
BIG /s
Oh? That's good to hear. Yes, I suppose my impression of the hilltop area is several years out of date.
Of course now that I said that something bad will happen...8>)
many thanks from down-under BG
it's good to see debate in the US is alive and well
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003508641_gunmayor04m.htmlThursday, January 4, 2007 - 12:00 AM
Nickels seeks laws to keep guns from kids and criminals
By Natalie Singer
Seattle Times staff reporter
The timing was coincidental, but hours after a student was shot dead at a Tacoma high school, Seattle Mayor Greg Nickels called on Washington lawmakers to pass new laws to keep guns away from children and criminals.
Aggravated assaults with a firearm in Seattle are up 48 percent since 2004, according to statistics Nickels cited at a news conference Wednesday morning. He wants Washington to become the eighth state in the nation to ban assault weapons and said recent crimes — including Wednesday morning's shooting in Tacoma and last year's fatal shootings on Capitol Hill and at the Jewish Federation of Greater Seattle — show that current gun laws aren't keeping people safe.
"We want our kids to be safe ... and we can't guarantee that anymore," he said.
Nickels also proposed stricter laws for buying guns at gun shows, as well as trigger locks and safe-storage requirements for firearms. He hopes his call for action will spur lawmakers to write and pass new legislation this session. Many of the suggestions have already been proposed as laws in years past but not enacted.
Not only are criminals getting a hold of too many weapons illegally, said Nickels and Seattle Police Chief Gil Kerlikowske, but children are using guns to hurt themselves and others.
Under previous proposals, parents who neglect to have trigger locks and safely store their guns would face up to a year in jail and a $5,000 fine, Nickels said.
Only 13 percent of guns used in crimes and recovered in Seattle come from licensed dealers. The rest are obtained through other means, such as family members, theft and illegal dealers, according to statistics cited Wednesday.
Nickels made a similar plea in May shortly after returning from a mayors summit on illegal guns and gun violence in New York. He said he and the 14 other mayors in attendance want to see some common-sense changes to make sure illegal guns are kept off the streets.
But Joe Waldron, the executive director of the Bellevue-based Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms and president of Washington Arms Collectors, which holds local gun shows, says Nickels' proposals would not have prevented any of the recent high-profile shootings.
He also argues that existing laws, such as the one that covers reckless endangerment, can already be applied to parents who irresponsibly allow their children access to guns.
"We want to keep out of the hands of criminals," Waldron said. "But we shouldn't make it harder for law-abiding citizens to own guns."
Natalie Singer: 206-464-2704 or nsinger@seattletimes.com
I see no one answered....
Why? I don't know. It just "was". There were gun clubs back in the days when the dinos roamed the earth...my brothers belonged to them. Yes. Loaded rifles were brought TO SCHOOL, and no one stole them, no one shot anyone...it just was.
Sad how times have changed in such a short period...
Why have a gun unless it's load?
Yes, as someone else mentioned some schools had rifle clubs, but we were just country kids and always had something handy in case we happened upon a rattle snake or spotted a deer or whatever. No one ever thought anything about it. Of course that was back when no one locked their houses and you knew everything would be safe and sound.
I love the "school was locked down" after the fact. Reminds of "cow escapes, farmer closes corral gate".
No Kidding! In Houston, a basketball team returning from a game Wed. night was assaulted by a gun-totting sicko. What is this world coming to!!
forty years of political correctness
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