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Horror stories: Baby sitting and the opt-out revolution
Charlottesville Hook ^ | 1/4/07 | The Brazen Careerist

Posted on 01/05/2007 8:32:57 AM PST by qam1

Here is my nightmare. I moved to Madison without knowing anyone here, so I found a babysitter through the University of Wisconsin graduate program in early education. The woman I found was great, but she said that she was really busy, and could her boyfriend babysit instead.

I squashed all my sexist stereotypes and asked for his qualifications. She said he has a law degree in Puerto Rico, where they are from, but he can't work here because he didn't pass the Wisconsin bar, and he doesn't want to study for it because they'll only be here two years. So he is looking for work. He has five younger siblings and he babysat them.

I said okay. I did the normal routine-- stayed with him and the baby one day. Went out for a little the next. The third day, I told him I'd be at the coffee shop. I told him if he wants to go there, go when the baby is asleep so the baby doesn't see me and start crying for me, so he shows up at the coffee shop at naptime.

I say, "Where's the baby?"

He says, "At home."

"AT HOME?!?!?"

So I sprint eight blocks home, imagining all the most terrible things a mom can imagine. I get home and the baby is asleep, on my bed, ten feet from an open stairway.

The guy says, "I'm sorry."

I say, "You can just go."

He says, "I think it was a language problem. I just misunderstood you. I thought you told me to go to the coffee shop and leave the baby at home."

This could happen to anyone, and it does. My friend paid a chic agency in the New York City area to find her a bonded, background-checked nanny. But she turned out to be anorexic and she fainted behind the wheel. My friend didn't know until the car was wrapped around a pole. (Everyone safe, thank goodness.)

The difficulty of leaving a baby to go to work cannot be understated. And babysitting situations like this make it even more difficult. So we've now gone months with no babysitter, and my husband is about to kill me because he's picking up a lot of the slack.

So here's where the advice comes in: how to find a perfect babysitter, right? Wrong. There are no perfect babysitter situations. It's the nature of motherhood to be unsure of leaving. One thing I can tell you, though, is that I am a part of the opt-out generation: I sprinted up corporate ladders and ran two startups of my own, and I don't want to do that now, when I have young kids.

A press release from Lifetime Television just announced, "Women in generation Y do not want to permanently drop out of the workforce." The assumption here, of course, is that the Generation X women-- me-- who are dropping out of corporate life today are going to abstain from all business for the next twenty years until all their kids are in college.

Newsflash: The current opt-out phenomenon is not permanent. Some moms can do it, some can't, most fall somewhere in between, like me. As the kids get older, the opt-out revolution is about opting out of the absurd and inflexible hours that corporate America is demanding right now. It is not opting out of all work that does not involve kids. In fact, the majority of small businesses are started by women for these very reasons.

So, finally, here's some advice. Babysitter problems are not unique to you. They are part of a massive trend, and one bad babysitter doesn't mean you should give up on corporate life, and the crazy demands of corporate life don't mean that you should give up on work outside the home. We are all trying to find a compromise, and some of us are trying to find a sitter.


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1 posted on 01/05/2007 8:33:01 AM PST by qam1
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To: qam1
So we've now gone months with no babysitter, and my husband is about to kill me because he's picking up a lot of the slack.

Better him picking up the slack than to find out his baby was sexually molested or worse...

2 posted on 01/05/2007 8:35:58 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: qam1
The woman I found was great, but she said that she was really busy, and could her boyfriend babysit instead.

There's the FIRST mistake. The answer should have been NO.

3 posted on 01/05/2007 8:37:33 AM PST by WIladyconservative
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To: qam1
and one bad babysitter doesn't mean you should give up on corporate life, and the crazy demands of corporate life don't mean that you should give up on work outside the home.

************

Pathetic.

4 posted on 01/05/2007 8:38:47 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: 2banana
"my husband is about to kill me because he's picking up a lot of the slack. "

So the husband's responsibilities take precendence over the safety of his own child? Odd.

Carolyn

5 posted on 01/05/2007 8:40:11 AM PST by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: qam1
So we've now gone months with no babysitter, and my husband is about to kill me because he's picking up a lot of the slack.

Huh?

I hope this lady is not in a job that requires coherent communication, because I'm perplexed. What kind of work does she do that involves going to a coffee shop?

And if her husband doesn't want to spend time with his child (I assume it's his child, and that's the "slack" she mentioned), then why do they have one?

I'd suggest she get a cat, but it's too late ...

6 posted on 01/05/2007 8:41:22 AM PST by Tax-chick ("Everything is either willed or permitted by God, and nothing can hurt me." Bl. Charles de Foucauld)
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7 posted on 01/05/2007 8:42:28 AM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: qam1

Sounds like she is complaining because she wants it all. Why did she have kids if she wasn't going to watch them? And why get a babysitter just to go to a coffee shop?


8 posted on 01/05/2007 8:42:36 AM PST by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: 2banana

Isn't this part of the story line in "Desperate Housewives"?


9 posted on 01/05/2007 8:42:48 AM PST by alloysteel (Character is a private trait. Reputation is the public aspect that is revealed.)
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To: qam1

She should call Andy Willoughby and find out about the 3 Step Scam.


10 posted on 01/05/2007 8:42:55 AM PST by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 77-78)
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To: Tax-chick
What kind of work does she do that involves going to a coffee shop?

She's a barista at Starbucks?

11 posted on 01/05/2007 8:43:41 AM PST by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 77-78)
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To: qam1; wagglebee
We are all trying to find a compromise, and some of us are trying to find a sitter.

Cry me a river. How about not having kids if they're that much of an imposition? How about rearranging your priorities and living within your means? How about *Grow up and quitchyerbi%&*in?*

12 posted on 01/05/2007 8:43:41 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: qam1

When my son was 3 months old, we decided to let a really nice neighbor young lady watch him in her home, instead of going the day-care route.

I got off early one Friday, and arrived at "Marge"'s house to pick up my son. After knocking on the door a few minutes, with no answer, I let myself in, thinking "Marge" was tied up and couldn't come to the door.

There in the living room was my 3 month old baby, asleep in a baby swing, with his pacifier in his mouth, and a piece of TAPE across his face, holding the pacifier in place.

"Marge" was not in the house. She was next door visiting with the neighbor.

Needless to say, our relationship ended right quickly with "Marge".

We had to go the day care route after that. But at least I knew there was more than one person there to monitor what was going on.

Thank God, my son is now healthy and happy at 12, but I will never get that picture of him in that swing out of my mind, and the horror of thinking that he could've choked had he spit up.


Sorry for the long post....


13 posted on 01/05/2007 8:43:59 AM PST by trillabodilla (Jesus Saves)
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To: Alouette

I suppose ... or a manager.


14 posted on 01/05/2007 8:46:03 AM PST by Tax-chick ("Everything is either willed or permitted by God, and nothing can hurt me." Bl. Charles de Foucauld)
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To: caver
Why did she have kids if she wasn't going to watch them? And why get a babysitter just to go to a coffee shop?

Those exact thoughts ran through my mind, too, but what do I know? I don't have any kids, so I must just not understand.

15 posted on 01/05/2007 8:46:30 AM PST by randog (What the...?!)
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To: Tax-chick

The whole article reads like one big panic.


16 posted on 01/05/2007 8:46:35 AM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: 2banana
I know a couple gals at Pig-N-Steak in Madison who would be more than happy to babysit for some extra bucks.

Get to know the locals, woman.
17 posted on 01/05/2007 8:46:50 AM PST by Thrownatbirth (.....when the sidewalks are safe for the little guy.)
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To: stainlessbanner

The point is probably that we need more federally-funded daycare and regulation of work hours, so that the author isn't further inconveniences.


18 posted on 01/05/2007 8:48:36 AM PST by Tax-chick ("Everything is either willed or permitted by God, and nothing can hurt me." Bl. Charles de Foucauld)
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To: qam1

It's interesting how the mommy in this piece keeps referring to her child as "the baby" and not "my daughter" or "my son." Could be nothing, of course, but if you ask me, that's very telling right there of exactly where this mom's mind is at.


19 posted on 01/05/2007 8:48:44 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Tax-chick
I'd suggest she get a cat...

It appears to me by her attitude that she thinks her child is a cat.

20 posted on 01/05/2007 8:49:02 AM PST by randog (What the...?!)
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To: trillabodilla
There in the living room was my 3 month old baby, asleep in a baby swing, with his pacifier in his mouth, and a piece of TAPE across his face, holding the pacifier in place.

Holy Mary, mother of GOD . . .

21 posted on 01/05/2007 8:49:47 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: 2banana
So we've now gone months with no babysitter, and my husband is about to kill me because he's picking up a lot of the slack.

Translation: "Our household income dropped by 40% when I quit work, but I demand the same standard of living we had before. Thus, my husband is p*ssed at me because I b*tch at him when there isn't enough money to live like we did when I was working."

22 posted on 01/05/2007 8:49:52 AM PST by Terabitten (How is there no anger in the words I hear, only love and mercy, erasing every fear" - Rez Band)
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To: randog

My kids are grown and out of the house, but there was a lot of sacrifice when they were growing up.


23 posted on 01/05/2007 8:50:40 AM PST by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: Tax-chick
The point is probably that we need more federally-funded daycare and regulation of work hours, so that the author isn't further inconveniences.

That, of course, is the ethos of this piece. "If only . . ."

24 posted on 01/05/2007 8:50:40 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: randog
It appears to me by her attitude that she thinks her child is a cat.

Good point.

25 posted on 01/05/2007 8:51:07 AM PST by Tax-chick ("Everything is either willed or permitted by God, and nothing can hurt me." Bl. Charles de Foucauld)
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To: qam1
I told him if he wants to go there, go when the baby is asleep so the baby doesn't see me and start crying for me, so he shows up at the coffee shop at naptime.

I had to read this about 10 times before I understood why she was upset. It sure sounds like he did as told.

On my 11th reading, I think I grasp that the guy should have walked a sleeping baby over to the coffee shop.

I think the mother is the problem. I see poor decision making and unclear directions.

26 posted on 01/05/2007 8:52:24 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Enoch Powell was right.)
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To: Tax-chick

Spot on, TC. Career-coffee gal should spend some time with her young'un and let her man find a job. Sounds like the child is putting a cramp in their fast-paced lifestyle.


27 posted on 01/05/2007 8:52:28 AM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: trillabodilla

I'm so sorry to hear about that lousy babysitter you had for your little one. After my ex left my daughter and me I had to return to work and considered having a nice woman from the neighborhood watch her, rather than send my 1-year old to a "corporate" type daycare.

In the end, after TONS of research, I chose a Christian daycare/preschool and have been happy with it. My daughter is thriving, has lots of new friends, and the staff is wonderful.

Unless parents find a real one-in-a-million babysitter, I'd say check out local churches that provide daycare. In my research I've found many that are truly excellent and not at all cost prohibitive.


28 posted on 01/05/2007 8:56:04 AM PST by fleagle
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To: Tax-chick

Heard some bimbo on the radio last night shilling for
something called Moms Rising, I think.

Anyway, her hand was grasping at our wallets for more
benefits for MOMs.

I want to tell these gals to raise their own kids.
I already raised mine, with no gubermint help and
few benefits. (baby now 30)


29 posted on 01/05/2007 8:59:00 AM PST by jusduat (I am a strange and recurring anomaly)
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To: qam1
As the kids get older, the opt-out revolution is about opting out of the absurd and inflexible hours that corporate America is demanding right now.

While, of course, demanding that her husband work more absurd and inflexible hours to "pick up the slack."

30 posted on 01/05/2007 9:01:20 AM PST by Terabitten (How is there no anger in the words I hear, only love and mercy, erasing every fear" - Rez Band)
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To: stainlessbanner

Reading for subtext :-).

It could have just been a disastrous-babysitter story, of which any parent has at least one, but she was throwing out some bigger-picture, talkin'-'bout-my-generation verbiage ... so the point has to be that it's Society's fault that she's in this pickle.


31 posted on 01/05/2007 9:01:21 AM PST by Tax-chick ("Everything is either willed or permitted by God, and nothing can hurt me." Bl. Charles de Foucauld)
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To: stainlessbanner

Exactly...she uses the word "sprint" twice.

What shallow people.


32 posted on 01/05/2007 9:01:31 AM PST by 2Jedismom (http://kimsbug.blogspot.com/)
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To: Tax-chick
I hope this lady is not in a job that requires coherent communication, because I'm perplexed. What kind of work does she do that involves going to a coffee shop?

My wife is in educational consulting and will frequently meet clients in coffeee shops. Especially if she has a job at one school in an area and needs to meet with a small group of parents in the same area for an exploratory session.

School districts are not willing to pony up a real conference room to a group wanting to start a charter school, nor are they going to supply travel money for a group to come to her.

33 posted on 01/05/2007 9:02:24 AM PST by CurlyDave
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To: CurlyDave

I see your point - I regularly see people holding business meetings or interviews at Panera, when I'm picking up extra-large bags of bagels.

However, if your wife were planning to consult at a coffee shop, would she invite the babysitter to push the baby over there at the same time? Seems like that would be a distraction from work, and unfair to her clients.


34 posted on 01/05/2007 9:05:41 AM PST by Tax-chick ("Everything is either willed or permitted by God, and nothing can hurt me." Bl. Charles de Foucauld)
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To: fleagle

In about 1977 I was desperate for an afterschool sitter for my 6 year old son.....I was recently separated from my husband/his father and school was starting where we moved to, about 5 miles from our previous residence (YES, I moved). Soooo.....I went to the bus stop.....looked around, and found a woman who lived across the street with her family (father included, several children)....asked whether she would be interested in watching my son....that was the beginning of a great relationship for my son. They were a great family. And, I was soooo lucky.


35 posted on 01/05/2007 9:06:54 AM PST by goodnesswins (When a "religion" has no commandments.....no wonder no one wants to go to Church on Sunday!)
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To: CDHart

Time to tell hubbby a few facts of life. Let husband calculate the costs of hiring all the things stay at home moms do. Start with childcare, add laundry, house cleaning, cooking, running errands, paying bills, scheduling appointments, and all the unheralded rest of it.

Tell him to either write his wife a check for the amount he would pay for others to do all this work or STFU and put in some OT. And be damn grateful his baby is safe at home with a loving mother that puts him or her first.


36 posted on 01/05/2007 9:07:56 AM PST by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: jusduat

I HEARD that flake, too on Medved's show yesterday! I want to start a non-profit - "WOMEN with BRAINS" for conservative type women - and make policy demands, etc.....anyone in?


37 posted on 01/05/2007 9:08:36 AM PST by goodnesswins (When a "religion" has no commandments.....no wonder no one wants to go to Church on Sunday!)
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To: jusduat
Anyway, her hand was grasping at our wallets for more benefits for MOMs.

What kind of benefits?

38 posted on 01/05/2007 9:12:07 AM PST by Tax-chick ("Everything is either willed or permitted by God, and nothing can hurt me." Bl. Charles de Foucauld)
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To: trillabodilla
You never know what you are going to get.

My son began attending a little neighborhood preschool. One day I went to pick him up. I couldn't find him. The teachers told me he was in the sandbox, playing. I did not even know there was a sandbox...it was either fairly new, or I had just not noticed it.

So, I go out to this sandbox, and there he was, playing in the sandbox with another kid...they were using little shovels to SCOOP THE CAT POOP out of the sandbox and into a bucket. I grabbed him, and went up to the owner to let him know (at this point I didn't know if maybe this was a one time thing, and maybe I should notify him that there was cat poop in the sandbox).

He apologized to me, with great consternation, saying that the early morning teachers are supposed to clean the sandbox of the feces every morning, but sometimes they forget to do so.

I just looked at this man in astonishment, trying to process the fact that he knew that neighborhood cats were taking a dump in a sandbox used by little children, and didn't have enough sense to cover the dang thing at night.

He told me they would go and buy a cover, but that was the last day my son spent there. We walked out and never returned.

39 posted on 01/05/2007 9:13:28 AM PST by Mrs.Liberty
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To: lastchance
Huh. I do all that stuff for free, without expecting anything but happy kids.

Maybe the materialism center in my brain is broken...I just assumed that kids=a bit of financial sacrifice.

40 posted on 01/05/2007 9:13:59 AM PST by Malacoda (A day without a pi$$ed-off muslim is like a day without sunshine.)
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To: Tax-chick
It's funny, TC...when I first saw her use the term "opt out," I thought she meant opting out of her primary job, i.e. parenting.

Silly me. In this author's world, all adults have day jobs and parenting is a hobby.

41 posted on 01/05/2007 9:14:51 AM PST by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Tax-chick

Most coffeshops seem have wireless access. I've seen a lot of folks doing business there. My wife's group held a meeting one, and everybody brought their laptops and connected wirelessly to view the presentation.


42 posted on 01/05/2007 9:18:25 AM PST by Little Ray
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To: All

A lot of parents today ask: How can I fit my kid into the life and lifestyle I already have?


43 posted on 01/05/2007 9:18:51 AM PST by Madeleine Ward
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To: trillabodilla
Man, what a horrifying image. It's amazing what passes for common sense these days. She TAPED his pacifier to his face? I can't get over that.

We lucked out with the greatest baby sitter on earth. Her father is a former cop (and my hubbie's best friend). She's been watching our daughter since she was three months old.

I'm planning to join friends on a two week trip to Europa this summer, and felt so uneasy about letting my daughter stay with her grandparents (my parents are dead, hubbie's parents are Boston socialists...) We decided to hire our sitter as a temp nanny for the two weeks I'll be gone.

I feel safer with this 17 year old girl watching my daughter (whom she loves as a little sister) than I would her grandparents watching her. How sad is that?

By the way, I'm glad your son is doing well. Any word on whatever happened to Marge?

44 posted on 01/05/2007 9:25:09 AM PST by RepoGirl ("Tom, I'm getting dead from you, but I'm not getting Un-dead..." -- Frasier Crane)
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To: caver
Sounds like she is complaining because she wants it all.

DING-DING-DING!!! WE HAVE A WINNER!!!

45 posted on 01/05/2007 9:27:07 AM PST by Night Hides Not
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To: 2banana
Better him picking up the slack than to find out his baby was sexually molested or worse...

But, your post has common sense, unlike this clueless mother and father.

46 posted on 01/05/2007 9:27:38 AM PST by proud American in Canada (Thy Will Be Done.)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
It's interesting how the mommy in this piece keeps referring to her child as "the baby" and not "my daughter" or "my son." Could be nothing, of course, but if you ask me, that's very telling right there of exactly where this mom's mind is at.

That's a very perceptive point.

47 posted on 01/05/2007 9:29:36 AM PST by proud American in Canada (Thy Will Be Done.)
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To: Terabitten
While, of course, demanding that her husband work more absurd and inflexible hours to "pick up the slack."

DING-DING-DING!!! WE HAVE ANOTHER WINNER!!!

And if hubby doesn't "pick up the slack", hubby can look forward to harangues such as "not loving his family", etc.

48 posted on 01/05/2007 9:31:26 AM PST by Night Hides Not
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To: Madeleine Ward

"A lot of parents today ask: How can I fit my kid into the life and lifestyle I already have?"

Good point.

The correct question, of course, is, "How can I meet my responsibilities to my children?"


49 posted on 01/05/2007 9:32:02 AM PST by dsc
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To: Tax-chick

6 weeks/months of paid leave after baby, fed regulated flex hours,
national health care, and all for a small deduction from your paycheck. That was all I could take before tuning out.


50 posted on 01/05/2007 9:33:58 AM PST by jusduat (I am a strange and recurring anomaly)
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