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Horror stories: Baby sitting and the opt-out revolution
Charlottesville Hook ^ | 1/4/07 | The Brazen Careerist

Posted on 01/05/2007 8:32:57 AM PST by qam1

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To: misterrob
We live in a different era today. For most people who want to buy a house today the ASP is staggering. If you want a house in a good area (low crime, decent schools) then it costs you something

Bingo.

I gave up my job when my husband and I were transferred to Hawaii. We lived in base housing so I did not need to work, though I did when my son was about 1/1/2.

However, when we were transferred back to California, base housing was hard to come by, and you didn't get alot of housing allowance on an E5 salary. Living in a simple, safe, lower middle class neighborhood with decent schools nearby came at a price...me going to work.

81 posted on 01/05/2007 10:12:28 AM PST by Mrs.Liberty
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To: Tax-chick
Huh?

...My thoughts as well. Methinks that this might be an 'imaginary' story. And, not to diminish one's accomplishments, but how critical is a job that allows you to work out of a coffee shop? If it's an out-of-the-office type job, then she can work at home. If she's slinging donuts for minimum wage.....I can't imagine what kind of person would put that ahead of child-raising.

At its best, I'd say that the author is a really poor planner. And, as a husband, I'd be a little irritated, too, if my wife went back to work, failed to make good arrangements, and expected me to stay home for an extended period of time because of her screw-up. >:| That wouldn't happen in my case, Mrs. WBill has got her act together far more than I do. I've no idea how she keeps everything on track at home.

82 posted on 01/05/2007 10:13:11 AM PST by wbill
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To: Madeleine Ward

A couple of months ago, I watched a segment of Fox & Friends where the women were discussing the rising trend in women having more children. One of them asked if having more children was a status symbol because it costs so much to raise a child nowadays. She was completely serious. I couldn't believe what I was hearing.


83 posted on 01/05/2007 10:19:20 AM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Tax-chick
And then she should write him a check back, for half the rent/house payment, half the utilities, her share of the groceries, rent on the appliances, etc., etc. Just to be fair.

Thanks for sticking up for us 1-income-families. There are some sacrifices to be made, but it's well worth it. :-)

Heck, Mrs. WBill saves a ton of money just by being a careful shopper, cutting coupons, etc. That's quite an income supplement, as well.

84 posted on 01/05/2007 10:19:26 AM PST by wbill
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To: All

I don't know why people want to have kids in todays world....it's just so expensive, lots of worry and work. Why do you have kids? Honestly.


85 posted on 01/05/2007 10:24:05 AM PST by Fawn (NEVER GO TO 'APPLIANCE KING' IN BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA--THEY SCAM YOU!!!)
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To: misterrob

"Many people who thumb their nose at families where Mom works speak from experiences 20 years ago or live in more rural or less economically vibrant areas."

Tea in China?

We've watched society deteriorate horribly as more moms have entered the workforce.


86 posted on 01/05/2007 10:24:44 AM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: lastchance

And Hubby gets no time with his kids. Gee, that's fair. And, what's even more ridiculous are the women out there that have husbands willing to bust ass to make the rent so she can stay home with the kids (I know, playgroup, talking on the phone to Mom, sister, girlfriends, going to park, etc is soooooo hard) who then want to either split the household stuff 50/50 or complain that he is never home....


87 posted on 01/05/2007 10:25:26 AM PST by misterrob (Jack Bauer/Chuck Norris 2008)
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To: sageb1

I could just as easily argue that society went down the toilet when women were allowed to vote.


88 posted on 01/05/2007 10:27:19 AM PST by misterrob (Jack Bauer/Chuck Norris 2008)
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To: WIladyconservative

The woman I found was great, but she said that she was really busy, and could her Puerto Rican boyfriend watch the sack of $100 bills instead.


89 posted on 01/05/2007 10:28:00 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Barack Saddam Hussein Obama)
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To: misterrob

My husband takes it back a few years earlier than that, even - he says the self-starting automobile was the culprit.


90 posted on 01/05/2007 10:29:43 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: misterrob
Now...my wife is a stay-at-home moom and I know that she works harder than I do. BUT...as I pointed out to her the other day...I don't have the ability at my job to say 'Well, there's not much going on this minute, think that I'll take a nap'. She makes up in flexibility some of what she gives up in work.

Also, I Like your tagline.

91 posted on 01/05/2007 10:31:31 AM PST by wbill
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To: misterrob

No you couldn't.


92 posted on 01/05/2007 10:33:22 AM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: wbill

Hey, my household and my kids would be hosed without my wife. I know that for a fact.


93 posted on 01/05/2007 10:33:22 AM PST by misterrob (Jack Bauer/Chuck Norris 2008)
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To: JimWforBush; martin_fierro; Jersey Republican Biker Chick; najida; Allegra; RockinRight; ...

FREERIDER I HATE IT WHEN THAT HAPPENS PING!


94 posted on 01/05/2007 10:36:45 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim

FREERIDERS RULE!!!!!


95 posted on 01/05/2007 10:43:12 AM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (Tagline removed per Admin. Moderator.)
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To: lastchance
Let husband calculate the costs of hiring all the things stay at home moms do.

So who did those things before the children came? They didn't hire anyone (more than likely), they did it themselves, while both working full time jobs. Thus, your argument is a non-starter.

Tell him to either write his wife a check for the amount he would pay for others to do all this work or STFU and put in some OT. And be damn grateful his baby is safe at home with a loving mother that puts him or her first.

You're entirely missing the point. When your income drops by 40%, as is typical when the wife stops working, you need to adjust your standard of living accordingly. In other words, live within your means. What the husband complains of is his wife's refusal to live within their means.

96 posted on 01/05/2007 10:43:44 AM PST by Terabitten (How is there no anger in the words I hear, only love and mercy, erasing every fear" - Rez Band)
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To: annelizly
That is his responsibility of course. He is the bread winner and she is the MOM.

As it is in my own household. However, we've ordered our lives so that we can live within our means, and I don't have to 'take up the slack.'

97 posted on 01/05/2007 10:46:02 AM PST by Terabitten (How is there no anger in the words I hear, only love and mercy, erasing every fear" - Rez Band)
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To: misterrob
Who said it was?

I don't know, but if you see 'em, you tell 'em for me, okay?

98 posted on 01/05/2007 10:53:24 AM PST by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: qam1
As the kids get older, the opt-out revolution is about opting out of the absurd and inflexible hours that corporate America is demanding right now.

Cry me a f#%$ing river, lady. Corporate America doesn't exist to accomodate the wants and needs of people with kids. I'm sick and tired of covering for parents who aren't at work because their kid's babysitter is sick, they have to go to Junior's soccer practice, or some other such thing. This kind of crap makes me not want to hire any parents of young children, even though I know that they are not all selfish, irresponsible boobs.

99 posted on 01/05/2007 10:54:12 AM PST by Huntress (Proud owner of Norman/Norma, the transsexual attack cat.)
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To: Tax-chick
That is the most perspicacious comment I've seen on this thread.

Thanks! =]

100 posted on 01/05/2007 10:56:21 AM PST by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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