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Hell's Coming with Us
American Thinker ^ | January 07, 2007 | Adriana Ramirez

Posted on 01/07/2007 11:53:56 AM PST by B4Ranch


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January 07, 2007

Hell's Coming with Us

By Adriana Ramirez

My favorite line in any movie represents the quintessential battle cry needed in today's war. It reverberates in the tone of victory. 

It was a line delivered by Kurt Russell in the film Tombstone when he played frontiersman Wyatt Earp. The moment after the death of one of his brothers, Wyatt warned the western gang, The Cowboys, that he was going after them and "hell's coming with me." 

The fierceness of the phrase, the seriousness of purpose could not be clearer. After losing close to three-thousand of our citizens and as many of our soldiers, we must let our enemies know their time is up and we'll be there to deliver their end.  America must make this our mantra. Words that go beyond fake diplomatic verbiage and the soft underpinnings of political threats that run contrary to actual consequences.  "Hell's coming with us," epitomizes what the American political herd lack in this war against jihad.  It is a war that requires that we back up our words with action.

Hell's coming with us....

America is in need of a battle cry, a rallying shout of support that fixates on our desire to win and secure our way of life for generations.  The kind of battle cry that sends a message to our enemies that we will not relent, and they will adhere to only one solution-their defeat. 

Such an example of "hell coming with us" can be seen in the army of Ethiopia, a third world army that has fought the jihadis successfully by actively challenging them with no mercy and no second guessing.  The Ethiopians assessed the situation and purposely engaged the enemy with one goal-their end.  Interestingly, Ethiopian allies took control of the former U.S. embassy, abandoned for a decade, before spreading out across Mogadishu to secure key locations. 

I hope their example is contagious in its basic premise that to win a battle, let alone a war, is to engage the enemy with a focus, not a mild interest; a will, not a maybe; a desire, not a fickleness. 

The recent events in Somalia demonstrate both the jihadis' ability to successfully wage an insurgency, but yet admits their failure to control Somalia.  This in itself discloses an interesting pattern.  The jihadis are successful in the realm of non-ending battle -  insurgency/terrorism tactics - but when it comes to taking over a country, controlling a people, they fail terribly.  One can bring up stringent Saudi Arabia, but I can point to the unrest in Iran. 

The jihads in Mogadishu proved their inability to control a population and run a government.  As an army they're weak because their fascistic idealism runs contrary to human nature, its love of life and its many elements: wine, music, film, celebrations, love, the need for family and friends, and the freedom to worship as one wishes to worship, or not to worship. 

Hell's coming with us....

We also need to stir the media pot in our favor, in spite of the stirrings of a meddlesome old media.  Their dependence on unverifiable sources and witnesses and acts of fauxtography, makes them less credible.  Do they know the word taqquiya, a.k.a "religious deception," or in more friendly terms an admission by Muslims that allows them to say whatever furthers the case of Islam?  That lying to the infidels, which means us, is the first line of attack in jihad?  So despite a media that demands we, America, hold a gun to our head and shoot because we are really to blame for this whole mess with jihad,

Hell's coming with us....

Foremost, our enemies must be identified and pointed out.  If we find Iranian agents in Iraq, Iran then must be the object of our military affection.  The same goes for Syria or any other agents found operating in Iraq.  We must meet chaos not with chaos, as we know in chaos theory there's an underlying order to random data, but with an honest and effective war strategy that attacks this seeming chaos with abrupt action. 

We must acknowledge and solve our weaknesses and propel our strengths.  We should adhere to the battle tactics of John R. Boyd. Everyone should know that name, a man who not only found weaknesses in our military when he proved that most Soviet fighters had dog fighting capabilities superior to those of their U.S. counterparts, but was brought in by then Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney to question General Schwarzkopf's battle plan in Desert Storm.  Boyd was seen by Marine Corps Commandant Charles Krulak's 1997 tribute as the "architect of America's victory in the Gulf War."  The Boyd-think of disrupting your enemy's battle decisions is to attack them quickly and disorient them.  This can only be accomplished with decisive behavior, not unending talk, spurious thinking, and meaningless ultimatums. 

Hell's coming with us....

My research into battle cries led me to words from Benjamin Franklin, from Gandhi, from George Washington, and even Bertrand Russell, on to George Orwell.  Some were simple in their opinion of war, how evil it was and how cowardly men were to participate in it, as if war is something that is chosen by good people.  Others spoke of the necessity of war and the need to face evil rather than allow it to linger and fester, infecting the world with cruel destruction and killing.  One must remember that Gandhi was able to force Great Britain out of his country, because he successfully shamed the British of their oppression and spoke to their virtues as a civilized society.  But what can one do when the enemy has no sense of propriety or civility? 

Hell's coming with us...  or our enemy will bring it again as it did that one September morning. 


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1 posted on 01/07/2007 11:54:00 AM PST by B4Ranch
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To: B4Ranch

I think the "Hell's coming with me" line was my first FR tagline.


2 posted on 01/07/2007 11:55:37 AM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: B4Ranch

The most we seem to be able to mutter as a nation these days is, "Hell's too harsh a word, but Heck might be joining us a little later."


3 posted on 01/07/2007 11:57:41 AM PST by kenth (I wish compassionate conservatives were more compassionate to conservatism.)
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To: B4Ranch
From your mouth to Bush's ears........IOW.....not a chance!!

We can dream about it though......and pray!!

4 posted on 01/07/2007 12:00:59 PM PST by PISANO
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To: B4Ranch

Gotta do something. I don't think many in America will wise up until jihadis start blowing themselves up in malls, walmart and target. Then you'll see some pissed off people.


5 posted on 01/07/2007 12:01:22 PM PST by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: B4Ranch; 2111USMC; 2nd Bn, 11th Mar; 68 grunt; A.A. Cunningham; ASOC; AirForceBrat23; Ajnin; ...

Works for me.


6 posted on 01/07/2007 12:02:17 PM PST by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: B4Ranch
Such an example of "hell coming with us" can be seen in the army of Ethiopia, a third world army that has fought the jihadis successfully by actively challenging them with no mercy and no second guessing.

I.E. Not practicing political correctness.

7 posted on 01/07/2007 12:02:40 PM PST by SouthTexas (May you have a blessed and prosperous New Year.)
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To: B4Ranch

Just reading this made me feel better...now if we will only let our guys do it.


8 posted on 01/07/2007 12:08:40 PM PST by Bahbah (.Regev, Goldwasser & Shalit, we are praying for you.)
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To: B4Ranch

bttt


9 posted on 01/07/2007 12:08:40 PM PST by kalee (No burka for me....EVER!)
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To: freema

Works for me, too. But I've been wondering for several years now, how come I can't buy a bumper sticker that says, "Praise the Lord and pass the ammo!" ??


10 posted on 01/07/2007 12:11:34 PM PST by Cincinnatus.45-70 (Patriotism to DemocRats is like sunlight to Dracula.)
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To: freema

Works for me, too. But I've been wondering for several years now, how come I can't buy a bumper sticker that says, "Praise the Lord and pass the ammo!" ??


11 posted on 01/07/2007 12:11:36 PM PST by Cincinnatus.45-70 (Patriotism to DemocRats is like sunlight to Dracula.)
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To: Eagles6

Then you'll see some pissed off people!

"THEN"!/ will be too late.


12 posted on 01/07/2007 12:11:42 PM PST by buck61
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I cannot love these enemies of my country and my culture--merciless, lying, bestial.

Nor will I, neither me nor my kin.


13 posted on 01/07/2007 12:14:24 PM PST by combat_boots (The MSM: State run Democrat media masquerading as corporations)
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To: B4Ranch

I actually prefer the line from "Gladiator". "Prepare to unleash hell"


14 posted on 01/07/2007 12:15:15 PM PST by jslade (The beatings well cease when morale improves!)
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To: B4Ranch
"Watch out little girl, Hell is soming to breakfast"

"When professionals come to sit at the table of War, uniformed thugs find that Hell has come to town"

"Cry Havoc!, and loose the Dogs of War"

One of my favs "TACAIR - Death on call"

One of the funniest - Army cooks (back in the day) "Death from within"

15 posted on 01/07/2007 12:17:51 PM PST by ASOC (The phrase "What if" or "If only" are for children.)
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To: B4Ranch; freema

BTTT


16 posted on 01/07/2007 12:18:10 PM PST by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: B4Ranch

Blackjack Pershing had the right idea in dealing with radical Islam!


17 posted on 01/07/2007 12:18:52 PM PST by Beagle8U
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To: B4Ranch

It's impossible to fight faith with secularism. We need ever more of our American Judeo-Christian values to win. Otherwise, we lose, everything.


18 posted on 01/07/2007 12:20:52 PM PST by onedoug
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To: B4Ranch

I'd rather use "Vengeance is mine, saith the Lord.", but there are just too many out there that will not admit that there is a God, much less that He is on our side.

Funny, how quickly some got off their knees after 9/11/01.


19 posted on 01/07/2007 12:22:05 PM PST by wizr (Do what you love, your God given talent, and God will provide the rest.)
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To: B4Ranch
I thought we had a good one there for a while.

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...but this is the sense of purpose we need to win any war. I did say WIN!

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20 posted on 01/07/2007 12:28:29 PM PST by Delta 21 ( MKC USCG - ret)
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To: ASOC
I have the T-shirt - a skull on a mess kit, with crossed knife and fork. A nice touch is that the skull has a tongue, which is lolling out in agony.

I wear it sometimes when I cook barbeque for favored guests. Haven't actually poisoned anybody yet!

My husband got it for me one year when he was at summer camp at Ft. Benning.

21 posted on 01/07/2007 12:30:56 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: B4Ranch

bump


22 posted on 01/07/2007 12:39:20 PM PST by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: Cincinnatus.45-70

Here you go: http://www.cafepress.com/passtheammo


23 posted on 01/07/2007 12:40:05 PM PST by old-ager
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To: Cincinnatus.45-70

http://www.cafepress.com/passtheammo


24 posted on 01/07/2007 12:40:53 PM PST by old-ager
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To: B4Ranch

25 posted on 01/07/2007 12:41:01 PM PST by Gritty ("Hell's coming with us," epitomizes what the American political herd lacks in this war - A. Ramirez)
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To: AnAmericanMother

LOL

I have several tshirts, that I will not wear in public - but will happily wear to a local base open house.

Some folk get 'it' - most do not. Also, the humor is lost on many as well.

I'm glad your spouse thought enought to get you a fun T shirt. My wife will not wear the ones I buy for her - well, at home yes, but not outside.


26 posted on 01/07/2007 12:43:17 PM PST by ASOC (The phrase "What if" or "If only" are for children.)
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To: Bahbah
Just reading this made me feel better

Me too.

27 posted on 01/07/2007 12:48:06 PM PST by processing please hold (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage made in heaven.)
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To: B4Ranch

Current battle cry is "can't we all just get along". Said with a whining accent.


28 posted on 01/07/2007 12:48:50 PM PST by saganite (Billions and billions and billions-------and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: ASOC
We started dating in 1971 . . . he knows my sense of humor by now (it's pretty weird.)

My kids are pretty strange too. Here's an exchange my daughter told me about from her college Spanish class (you have to imagine all of this transpiring in fluent Spanish - it's a 400 level conversational class for the kids going to study abroad):

They were discussing a short story about shrunken heads.

Boy in class: "How do you shrink a head, anyway?"

Daughter (raising hand): "I know! I know!" Whereupon she explains the process.

Professor: "Where on earth did you learn THAT?"

Daughter: "My mama told me."

Professor: "How does your MAMA know that?"

Daughter: "Uh . . . she's travelled a lot. . . "

The whole class was roaring. The Spanish prof wants to meet me - can't imagine why.

29 posted on 01/07/2007 12:50:00 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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Twist on phrase in tag line-for now.


30 posted on 01/07/2007 12:50:10 PM PST by processing please hold (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: B4Ranch

RINOs don't have the stomach for war.


31 posted on 01/07/2007 12:50:41 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (Defeat the traitor McCain for President. Job #1.)
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To: B4Ranch
And then there's Tuco's dictum ... "When you have to shoot, shoot, don't talk."
32 posted on 01/07/2007 12:54:03 PM PST by pa_dweller (South of the border - a phrase fast losing its meaning)
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To: kenth

heck fire....bump


33 posted on 01/07/2007 12:58:16 PM PST by B.O. Plenty (liberalism, abortions and islam are terminal)
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To: B4Ranch

I watched this movie last night. A classic. Doc Holiday is the best charecter ever.


34 posted on 01/07/2007 1:04:06 PM PST by andrew2527
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To: Eagles6
"we the people" are increasingly being forced, due to PC and inaction by "officials", to get directly involved in these conflicts.

illegals, muzzies, gangs and drug dealers.

All of these "problems" have to eventually be dealt with. If our elected officials will not or cannot deal with these problems, then "we" must do it, or lose our country.

35 posted on 01/07/2007 1:09:35 PM PST by B.O. Plenty (liberalism, abortions and islam are terminal)
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To: B.O. Plenty

Yep.


36 posted on 01/07/2007 1:16:16 PM PST by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: B4Ranch
How about the line from the movie "Next of Kin". Patrick Swayze says (if I remember it right) Trouble isn't here yet, but it's coming.
37 posted on 01/07/2007 1:40:41 PM PST by oldtimer2 (I have seen THE VILLAGE and I don't want it raising my child)
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To: AnAmericanMother
ROTFLMAO

Be sure and show him your gun collection as well - travels a lot indeed.

Saw a nice set of tshirts the other day.
PILOTS WITHOUT MAINTAINERS ARE JUST PEDESTRAINS WITH COOL JACKETS AND SUNGLASSES.

Then the other side
Maintainers without pilots are just overqualified auto mechanics.


and of course the classic "Nobody flies without Supply" The list could go on, and all in good fun as well.
38 posted on 01/07/2007 1:40:51 PM PST by ASOC (The phrase "What if" or "If only" are for children.)
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To: B4Ranch
"The moment after the death of one of his brothers, Wyatt warned the western gang, The Cowboys, that he was going after them and "hell's coming with me."

Actually, this line was an allusion to earlier in the movie when Johnny Ringo quotes the bible, Revelation 6:8 -

"Behold a pale horse. And the name of its rider was death. And hell followed with him"

Thus, before Wyatt goes on his killing spree against the cowboys, he is being compared to the rider of the pale horse.

39 posted on 01/07/2007 1:54:08 PM PST by joebuck
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To: joebuck

I'm confident that it has been many years, far too many for me, since a film writer has been confident enough and willing to slip in a script line that referred to the Bible.


40 posted on 01/07/2007 2:21:34 PM PST by B4Ranch (Press "1" for English, or Press "2" and you will be disconnected until you learn to speak English.)
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To: B4Ranch
Somehow it lacks the punch of "mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the lord..."

Declaring oneself an evil being of foul purpose destined to lose, and seeing it as a way of conjuring up strength and purpose, is a sign of empty hearts, muddy understanding, and moral bankruptcy.

41 posted on 01/07/2007 2:43:28 PM PST by JasonC
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To: ASOC
Squawk: "Left engine missing."

Rep: "Left engine located on left wing after brief search."

Squawk: "Something loose behind instrument panel."

Rep: "Something tightened behind instrument panel."

Squawk: "Autoland extremely rough."

Rep: "Autoland not installed on this model a/c."

Squawk: "Dead bugs on windshield."

Rep: "Live bugs on back order."

42 posted on 01/07/2007 2:55:14 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: B4Ranch

America prosecutes it's warriors when ever it can and with more gusto and ferver than you'll see in the fight against our enemies. The tough talk is over. Bush even apologized for it. I think "How about those Chargers" would be a more apt slogan in this war.


43 posted on 01/07/2007 3:53:46 PM PST by Ajnin (Neca Eos Omnes. Deus Suos Agnoset.)
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To: B4Ranch

African Christians will sack Mecca within the next 100 years.


44 posted on 01/07/2007 3:55:52 PM PST by Jim Noble (To secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity)
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To: Eagles6

If the rags disrupt the NFL season, I think that will get a few peoples attention.


45 posted on 01/07/2007 3:56:53 PM PST by 4yearlurker ("Nothing is true,and everything is permitted"--7 th Satanic vow. Sounds like Liberalism!)
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To: B4Ranch

Beautiful article!! Thanks for posting it. Is this lady a FReeper?


46 posted on 01/07/2007 3:58:43 PM PST by Bigg Red (Never trust Democrats with national security.)
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To: onedoug
It's impossible to fight faith with secularism. We need ever more of our American Judeo-Christian values to win. Otherwise, we lose, everything.

Close. Subverting Shia and Sunni Islam in Iraq with Sufism would be a more effective tactic - turning all those raging young hotheads into blissed-out mystic hippies. ;)

47 posted on 01/07/2007 3:59:06 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: kenth

"Hell's too harsh a word, but Heck might be joining us a little later."

**
LOL!
Sadly true, however.


48 posted on 01/07/2007 4:00:13 PM PST by Bigg Red (Never trust Democrats with national security.)
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To: Bigg Red

I don't know.


49 posted on 01/07/2007 4:11:36 PM PST by B4Ranch (Press "1" for English, or Press "2" and you will be disconnected until you learn to speak English.)
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To: pa_dweller

How about an adaptation from another Eastwood movie - one of his last westerns which I forget the name of (and i'm probably off on the dialogue as well):

"So what do ya do for a livin'?"

"I'm a terrorist".

"Dyin' anin't much of a livin'." Bang


50 posted on 01/07/2007 4:13:18 PM PST by geopyg (Don't wish for peace, pray for Victory.)
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