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What the “conservative” useful idiots have brought us: Week one.
January 8, 2007 | self

Posted on 01/08/2007 8:42:14 AM PST by jmaroneps37

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There will be periodic updates to this list. Those that stayed home or voted Democrat will have amply opportunities to re-explain why staying home or voting Democrat has made America a stronger and more prosperous nation.
1 posted on 01/08/2007 8:42:16 AM PST by jmaroneps37
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To: jmaroneps37
They stayed home because they were so much more conservative and so much smarter than those of us who were true patriots and understood the danger to our country, our troops and our allies.

They're just soooo much more intellectually honest than those of us who voted, as I did, with PRIDE in my country, my president, my troops.

2 posted on 01/08/2007 8:45:34 AM PST by OldFriend (THE PRESS IS AN EVIL FOR WHICH THERE IS NO REMEDY)
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To: jmaroneps37
Won't have to--the MSMess will clear up all your confusion quickly and efficiently...
3 posted on 01/08/2007 8:48:12 AM PST by 100-Fold_Return (MONEY Cometh To Me NOW)
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To: jmaroneps37
Those that stayed home or voted Democrat will have amply opportunities to re-explain why staying home or voting Democrat has made America a stronger and more prosperous nation

Can you explain how voting Republican in the last election would have made America a stronger and more prosperous nation?
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4 posted on 01/08/2007 8:48:24 AM PST by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: jmaroneps37; OldFriend

...or maybe they weren't buyin what the Pubs were sellin. Don't blame the re-action for the lack of Pro-action on the Republican side. Don't put the cart before the ox.


5 posted on 01/08/2007 8:48:59 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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Can you explain how voting Republican in the last election would have made America a stronger and more prosperous nation?

Easily - by not allowing the Democrats to seize control of the Congress.

6 posted on 01/08/2007 8:52:06 AM PST by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: jmaroneps37; Mo1
This, copied from "Flopping Aces" weblog says the same thing, but maybe better:

Many will recall the great ad by David Zucker.

Well guess what? The future is now:

One of the first key procedural votes in the Democrat-controlled House last week established legislative rules that Republicans say will make it easier to raise taxes by a simple majority vote.

The straight party-line vote received little attention Thursday as Rep. Nancy Pelosi, California Democrat, was elected speaker of the House. But Republican leaders and conservative tax-cut advocates said it opened up a huge loophole in a Republican-imposed rule drawn from the Republicans' 1994 Contract with America, which requires a supermajority, or three-fifths vote, to raise taxes.

Democrats unanimously voted down a motion offered by Minority Leader John A. Boehner of Ohio that would have prevented them from waiving the rule, a move that tax-cutters said signaled the Democrats' intention to raise taxes between now and the 2008 elections.

"American taxpayers need to hold on to their wallets because the new House rules concerning taxes are not worth the paper they're written on," said Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform (ATR).

"After spending an entire year on the campaign trail claiming she will not raise taxes, the first vote Nancy Pelosi brings to the floor for a vote as speaker will open the door to billions and billions of dollars of tax increases over the next two years," Mr. Norquist said.

And to think many in the middle thought Zucker was just joshing.

How did those new members to Congress vote on this measure, even those who ran on a "no new taxes" platform?

Democratic officials saw Mr. Boehner’s motion as a move to tie their hands on future tax policy, and the majority leadership effectively held all of its troops in line to oppose it, even though some of its members ran on pledges not to raise taxes.

And there you have it. The new blood in the Democratic party was unwilling to go against Pelosi and company. So here we are. The Democrats are threatening to pull funding for our troops who are risking everything for this country while at the same time they are planning to dig deep, very deep into your wallets.

But at least the Republicans were taught a lesson huh?

7 posted on 01/08/2007 8:52:41 AM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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"But at least the Republicans were taught a lesson huh?"

It was the Republicans who lost it. They (we) strayed too far into Dumocrat territory. Only time will tell if they (we) actually learned anything. I tend to doubt it.


8 posted on 01/08/2007 8:56:30 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: OldFriend
LOL, not to mention those that spread BDS, agitated for surrender of the congress, (in Conservative media and on FR) and then claimed to have "held their noses", and voted for an "R".

Resulting in a loss of the only Conservative firewall in the Congress stopping the liberal tendencies of the President.

Brilliant political strategists they are not, but that is what happens when voting emotionally.
9 posted on 01/08/2007 8:58:13 AM PST by roses of sharon
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To: jmaroneps37

Gosh, a whole vanity devoted to attacking conservatives and blaming them for the failures of liberals.


10 posted on 01/08/2007 8:58:37 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Circumstances are the fire by which the mettle of men is tried.)
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To: taxed2death
I tend to doubt it.

RINOs ALWAYS draw the 180 degree wrong "lessons" from any set of circumstances. Count on it.

11 posted on 01/08/2007 8:59:56 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Circumstances are the fire by which the mettle of men is tried.)
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To: jmaroneps37

>>>single issue purity over the safety of America

Are you talking about the invasion of 20 million illegals into the US?


12 posted on 01/08/2007 9:00:08 AM PST by Hop A Long Cassidy
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To: jmaroneps37

I think you are misunderstanding what happens. The breakdown in American politics is not 50-50 R and D, with a bunch of R defectors, as you imply.

The breakdown is 40-40-20. Forty percent are various minorities looking for preferential policies, socialists, leftists, green-wackos, homosexuals, union members, and public employees. In other words Democrats who know they are Democrats.

The Republicans have a base too. Cultural conservatives, most of the military and military families, more religious people, whites, college educated, business achievers, etc. They too know who they are and why.

Then there is this 20% that are "independents". What this means is that they don't have a strong identification with either party. They vote based on things other than clearly understood politics. Don't you know people like this? I certainly do.

They tend not to be able to explain their beliefs in logical terms, but rather "I feel" "he seems like" and other primarily emotional takes on things.

It is this 20% that is up for grabs. The Dem play book was to spend 1 year denouncing the Republicans as "corrupt". The icing on the cake was the homos-outing-homos drama a few weeks before the election.

This entire strategy was not designed to make reasoned arguments to logical thinkers, rather it was designed to sway those "middle of the road" (ie: voters who don't vote based on ideology) to think the the R's are bad.

Just as the teams making it to the Superbowl will have lots of fans from all over, so a consumer 'gestalt' is established in elections.

For thinking ideological voters there were lots of reasons to vote against Kerry. (For instance his stands on the Contras in the 1980s, his support of nuclear freeze).

But these are difficult points to argue with "swing" voters. The winning strategy has to be more like that used by American Idol winners. Build a sympathetic story for your guy, show the others in a unflattering light.

Things like the poorly thought out convention, the windsurfing (used in opposition ads), the flip-flop designation and the six houses debacle where probably more important in defeating Kerry than any policy of his.

The election we just went through the Donks got their theme front and center. "Change". "End of Corruption". And tagged the R's but good with the themes they wanted to tag them with.

So blaming (mythical) Republican voters who were smart enough to know better but voted D anyway is off base. Sure you may find some few of these beasts, but the swing was not made up of defecting Republicans. It was made up of swing voters.

Sadly, in our system, these people decide elections. That's why we need people like Lee Atwater and Karl Rove to win them, and the Donkeys need James Carville and Donna Brazil to win them.

The hardest barrier going forward is the apparent decision by the MSM to move from grudgingly attempting some sort of even handed coverage to outright boosterism for the Donkeys. If this continues in force it remains to be seen if it is possible for any R to win a media dominated race.


13 posted on 01/08/2007 9:01:35 AM PST by Jack Black
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To: roses of sharon
Brilliant political strategists they are not, but that is what happens when voting emotionally.

Ah. One of the classic liberal attacks on conservatives. It's lame and tired, though. (And it is an accusation that they themselves are mostly guilty of.)

14 posted on 01/08/2007 9:02:14 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Circumstances are the fire by which the mettle of men is tried.)
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To: taxed2death
...or maybe they weren't buyin what the Pubs were sellin. Don't blame the re-action for the lack of Pro-action on the Republican side. Don't put the cart before the ox.

I agree. I voted Republican, and I'm upset with those Repblicans who stayed home, but I understand why they did. And I fear that the more we blame those "teach a lesson" conservatives, the more likely it is that our Republican leadership will do nothing to fix the problems of the party.

15 posted on 01/08/2007 9:02:58 AM PST by The Blitherer (I am not worried about the deficit. It is big enough to take care of itself. -Reagan)
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To: The Blitherer

Don't buy the leftist propaganda. Conservatives voted for Republicans. It was RINOs who crossed over and voted for Democrats.


16 posted on 01/08/2007 9:03:53 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Circumstances are the fire by which the mettle of men is tried.)
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To: jmaroneps37
For the life of me I can't understand why foolish, willfully “blind”, narrow agendas, played “make believe”, useful idiots, self delusions, folks that may have been able to be swayed didn't come flocking to support your views jmaroneps37.
But it almost seems like they were possibly alienated for some reason.

Go figure?

It's also good to see you're getting a head start on 2008.

17 posted on 01/08/2007 9:04:12 AM PST by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: jmaroneps37

For God's sake, the election was 2 months ago. Quit whining about it and just figure out where to go from here.


18 posted on 01/08/2007 9:05:22 AM PST by fr_freak
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To: jmaroneps37

Don't you think most of the blame should be the Republican Party which time and time again try to shove left-leaning candidates down out throats.

Just look at the top contenders for Presidential candidate. All RINOS ...McCain, Guilliani, and Romney. Where are the conservatives?


19 posted on 01/08/2007 9:05:44 AM PST by colorcountry (Remember: Everyone seems normal until you get to know them.)
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To: Jack Black
"...Karl Rove..."

Ok, what message did KarLaRazaRove send to conservatives when he was hispandering to the worst possible element of the "Hispanic" people? I saw it as the absolute low point in the election cycle, licking the boots of a criminal organization, akin to Karl sucking up to Louie Farrrrrrrakan or David Duke.
20 posted on 01/08/2007 9:06:19 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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