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What the “conservative” useful idiots have brought us: Week one.
January 8, 2007 | self

Posted on 01/08/2007 8:42:14 AM PST by jmaroneps37

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To: Jack Black
So blaming (mythical) Republican voters who were smart enough to know better but voted D anyway is off base. Sure you may find some few of these beasts, but the swing was not made up of defecting Republicans. It was made up of swing voters.

I agree with majority of your post .. though I would change the "(mythical) Republican" part ...

There were many conservatives .. whether they were Constitutional Party, Libertarian Party, Reformer or Independents .. they were very influential to many of those "I feel" voters that you mentioned

Before the election I laughed them off and did not take their threat seriously

I can guarantee, I will not make that mistake again

101 posted on 01/08/2007 10:00:30 AM PST by Mo1 (YEA, What Onyx said in her tag line !!)
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To: mysterio
Maybe voters got turned off by yearly growth of government that would make the democrats drool.

Yeah, and voting in the big spending Democrats sure sent that message to the Republican party, didn't it? :::Sarc:::

102 posted on 01/08/2007 10:00:46 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Dane
Why should they. It was the "true conservatives" who put nancy pelosi in power.

Says the king of the "blame conservatives" crowd.

103 posted on 01/08/2007 10:00:57 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Circumstances are the fire by which the mettle of men is tried.)
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To: Lakeshark
The Democrats are threatening to pull funding for our troops who are risking everything for this country . . .

Right. That's precisely why this country had no business sending those troops to Iraq in the first place.

104 posted on 01/08/2007 10:01:19 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: michigander
I hope you had a silent sarcasm tag on your last post.

Here is the concluding paragraph of the article I referenced above:

In any event, a coalition’s strength is partly a function of the force and quality of its opposition. The fissures and conflicts within conservatism are getting so much attention now because conservatism is still, intellectually speaking, where the principal action remains. So long as the Democratic party continues down the road it has been following, led by its aging left-wing lions and lionesses, funded and directed by the most extreme and irresponsible elements in its ranks, and finding clarity only in discrediting George W. Bush and regaining office, conservatives will always have plenty to unify around. For their own part, so long as conservatives are able to remember Ronald Reagan as a leader who not only embodied the distinctive characteristics of American conservatism but who finessed its antinomies and persevered against the contempt and condescension of his own era—including among some of his allies—they can yet regain their bearings and prevail.

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The big tent of conservatives in the US has allowed much more independence of expression than the Dem party of lockstep speech. This election demonstrated the disillusion of enough people who had chosen, for whatever reason, to vote for the Republican in 2004, to let the Republican lose in 2006. Example: Webb beating Allen in Virginia.

My point is that we cannot persuade anyone to our perspective if we talk past each other with parallel languages.

105 posted on 01/08/2007 10:01:33 AM PST by maica (America will be a hyperpower that's all hype and no power -- if we do not prevail in Iraq)
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To: Mo1
I can guarantee, I will not make that mistake again

What are you gonna do, dream up even harsher words to alienate them?

106 posted on 01/08/2007 10:02:05 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Circumstances are the fire by which the mettle of men is tried.)
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To: EternalVigilance
Really? When?

From November 2004 to present.

Wrong. We stayed steadfast for conservative principle and won every statewide and federal election in my state.

Let me make things perfectly clear, because you seem to be exceptionally refractory to reality:

HOUSE SPEAKER NANCY PELOSI

107 posted on 01/08/2007 10:02:52 AM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (Dyslexics of the world, UNTIE!)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

Amen to your post #58.


108 posted on 01/08/2007 10:03:06 AM PST by OldFriend (THE PRESS IS AN EVIL FOR WHICH THERE IS NO REMEDY)
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To: EternalVigilance
Says the king of the "blame conservatives" crowd.

As the Emperor of the "true conservatives" states wearing no clothes.

109 posted on 01/08/2007 10:03:10 AM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Excellently Excellent Excellentist post, Extremely Extreme Extremist.

(Try to say that quickly five times!)

110 posted on 01/08/2007 10:03:23 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: jmaroneps37

Good post. If ‘All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.’ Edmund Burke. While I appreciate some of our apprehension in supporting less than perfect conservatives, abstaining from voting is not the way to do it. Obviously, independents broke heavily for the Dems, but I think that the GOP could have done a better job getting out the base. I for one had the option of voting for Arnold Schwarzenegger for governor. He wasn't my favorite ideology, but I voted for him anyway. Why? Because I support everything he's done? Absolutely not. But I supported him (as well as a less than perfectly conservative Republican member of Congress) because I know that the alternative, in this case Phil Angelides, was simply not an option. I also didn't vote for some hopeless independent candidate, either. Fortunately, in my case, both Arnold and our member of Congress won.


111 posted on 01/08/2007 10:03:39 AM PST by Princip. Conservative
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To: Prokopton
Many "Republicans" do not trust, nor really like, conservatives.

That's obvious, isn't it.

112 posted on 01/08/2007 10:04:06 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Circumstances are the fire by which the mettle of men is tried.)
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To: mugs99
"Can you explain how voting Republican in the last election would have made America a stronger and more prosperous nation?"

Hopefully you'll still be asking that on April 15th of next year. I fear you'll have your answer in black-and-white (or red-and-white).

113 posted on 01/08/2007 10:04:26 AM PST by cookcounty (The "Greatest Generation" was also the most violent generation.)
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To: jmaroneps37

I agree. And if you insult these "conservative useful idiots" long and hard enough, maybe they'll go away and get their own candidate like a Ross Perot. That'll show 'em! Keep up the insults, buddy!


114 posted on 01/08/2007 10:04:36 AM PST by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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To: Mo1
I especially recall Mark Levin coming on the air and saying not to vote for Kean in NJ because he criticized Rush on the Michael J. Fox issue. Levin said he didn't care if the dems took over the senate.

Suddenly, he's a patriot?

Ingraham bashing the President non stop, other talk show hosts wanting to punish the President.

Faux patriots all.

Suddenly we are hearing how important it was to vote Republican???????????????????

115 posted on 01/08/2007 10:05:53 AM PST by OldFriend (THE PRESS IS AN EVIL FOR WHICH THERE IS NO REMEDY)
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To: thinkthenpost

I have one issue. Winning the WOT


116 posted on 01/08/2007 10:06:52 AM PST by OldFriend (THE PRESS IS AN EVIL FOR WHICH THERE IS NO REMEDY)
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To: Revolting cat!

Go right ahead. You'll spend the next forty years trying to get back into a majority just within the GOP, and the country will lurch so far to the left that you'll spend those years being regarded as escapees from the loony bin.


117 posted on 01/08/2007 10:07:07 AM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (Dyslexics of the world, UNTIE!)
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To: OldFriend; holdonnow

Mark Levin is a FReeper. Maybe you should ping him if you're going to trash talk him.


118 posted on 01/08/2007 10:07:39 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Circumstances are the fire by which the mettle of men is tried.)
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To: Tokra
Easily - by not allowing the Democrats to seize control of the Congress.

Republicans controlled Congress for twelve years...and gave us the biggest growth of government since FDR!
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119 posted on 01/08/2007 10:07:41 AM PST by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: colorcountry
Don't you think most of the blame should be the Republican Party which time and time again try to shove left-leaning candidates down out throats.



They are not being shoved down our throats. They are polling well with the base and the public at large. Repubs who will be social right champions while ignoring fiscal issues and trusting the voter with personal responsibility will go down just like Santurom and Allen.
120 posted on 01/08/2007 10:07:53 AM PST by Blackirish
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