[Wormwood]

I'd prefer to win on ideas, but I'll take a victory where I can get it.

[Clintonfatigued]

Good news ping!

[oceanview]

people keep thinking this, but then all you hear (from many posters here) is how the new "transplants" are bringing their politics with them.

I hear it on FR from people in texas, north carolina, colorado, virginia, new hampshire, the dakotas and montant, etc. So tell me, which states are getting more conservative?

[TommyDale]

No GOP advantage until after the next census in 2010...Maybe in 2012?

[Fraxinus]

I think someone has their trends off.

I remember someone giving a speech summarizing their sociological research on C-span, where they said that conservatives settle and then stay whereas liberals will move constantly. Thus those that move at retirement will overwhelmingly be liberals.

[johnthebaptistmoore]

Correction, the population boost thanks to more amnesty for illegal immigrants coming soon in the U.S. will benefit leftist politics forever! Good-bye U.S.A., and good-bye conservatism very soon! Grrr!

[Peach]

Ongoing population shifts from the North to the Sun Belt states will benefit Republicans more than Democrats in future House races and could enlarge the Republican Party's electoral count in presidential elections, political analysts say.

Well, let's hope, because otherwise the Democrats will have the sheeple so used to the socialized programs that we won't see a Republican majority for many decades.

And, of course, we need to hope this Democrat majority doesn't involve itself with "redistricting" in clever ways to overcome some of this population shift.

[Cacique]

None of that will happen when there is an amnesty for the "illegal" aliens in this country. By my estimate all the numbers thrown around are being low balled on purpose so as not to alarm anyone. If as the government has stated over the last 20 years 10,000 illegals cross the border on a daily basis after 20 years that comes closer to 65 million, if doesn't take an idiot to do the math. The fact of the matter is, that the government has absolutely no clue how many illegal aliens are in the country.

Why does that matter you ask? Because if amnesty passes this congress as I suspect it will and is signed by a willing accomplice in the white house we will have a huge population shift to the blue states. That will mean redistricting as a result of the 2010 census. It will also mean a major shift in the electoral college and a lock on the white house and legislatures by the democrats.

That is only the tip of the iceberg. Most Latins hold vastly radical ideas far to the left of most "progressive" democrats. The US will shift far to the left as is happening in the rest of Latin America. Most Latin Americans are highly class conscious and identify themselves as the have nots, they have nothing but resentment for the wealthy and productive sector and will vote in any government that promises redistribution of wealth.

How do I know these things? Because I came from there (yes I'm an immigrant, a legal one), I speak the language and I converse with my fellow hispanics the neighborhood where I live which has an abundance of Mexicans, Salvadoreans and Ecuadorians. This country is on the verge of radical change and that threat is closer and more immediate than some can imagine.

[spectre]

"We don't really know the demographics that are driving the in-and-out migration in these states," said political analyst Rhodes Cook. "Some of them could be more affluent white conservatives, but they might be Hispanics who tend to vote more Democratic."

Bend over and kiss our GOP goodbye..

sw

[Apercu]

The Democrats have aborted many of their potential base and commit most of the vote fraud to make up the difference.

[arthurus]

That population shift will be overwhelmed by the other population shift that is occurring and will accelerate exponentially when the Republicans and the Democrats get their coveted Amnesty passed and signed, in whatever form.

[ExTexasRedhead]

The overt insanity of Pelosi and her gang of traitors will do more to boost the GOP in the coming hours and days and months.

[Uncle Hal]

If blue state residents move to red states are they going to vote blue or red? You could look at this story and come to different conclusions.

[chuckles]

Sorry to have to disagree with the Wash Times, but the yankee bastids bring their politics with them. I'm a Texan, but Fla. is a better example. All the snowbirds that live in Miami and the coastal regions vote Dem. Remember the close elections? No way it would have been that close without the yankee vote.

Texas is still fairly conservative, but Austin, Dallas, and Houston are lost forever. I think Austin could be "Paris" west. Instead of the peso for pizza, it might be the Euro. In Houston, you can drive for miles and never see an English sign other than road signs. It's either Vietnamese or Spanish. They are all Dems.

[Salvation]

**Ongoing population shifts from the North to the Sun Belt states will benefit Republicans more than Democrats in future House races and could enlarge the Republican Party's electoral count in presidential elections, political analysts say. **

So let's get more Republicans in every section of the U. s.

[Salvation]

** It forecasts a loss of House seats in Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, New York, Ohio, Missouri, Iowa and Louisiana, gains of one seat each in Florida, Georgia, Arizona, Nevada and Utah, and a gain of two seats in Texas.
Another analysis shows an even larger "probable" shift of House seats from the North to the Sun Belt, according to Polidata, a Virginia-based demographic and political research firm.
Under these "probable changes," 13 seats could shift among 19 states, with eight gainers and 11 losers. "All the gainers are in the South and West and all the losers are in the East and Midwest except Louisiana," the Polidata study said.
Leading the "biggest gainers" would be Texas, with four additional seats. Polidata projects gains of two seats each in Florida and Arizona and one each in Georgia, Utah, Nevada, Oregon and Washington.
The biggest losers would be New York and Ohio, with two seats each. Massachusetts, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Illinois, Minnesota, Iowa, Missouri and Louisiana each would lose one.
Because each state's electoral votes are based on its representation in Congress, the shift in House seats to the Sun Belt regions, where Republicans are strongest in presidential elections, would mean increased clout in the Electoral College, too.
"Overall, given a 2004 electoral vote of 286 [for President] Bush to 252 [for Sen. John] Kerry, the vote count based upon these 2010 projections would have been 292 Bush, 246 Kerry, a gain of six for the Republican ticket," Polidata's report said.**

Some more statistics from the story.

[SunkenCiv]

GOP Plants Flag on New Voting Frontier
LA Times | Mon Nov 22 2004, 7:55 AM ET
Ronald Brownstein and Richard Rainey,
with contributions by Kathleen Hennessey
Posted on 11/23/2004 11:52:29 AM PST by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/1286918/posts

The Republican Party's Diminishing Strength in New York
Gotham Gazette (dot com) | June 7, 2004 | Gerald Benjamin
Posted on 09/09/2004 11:19:54 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1211174/posts

The Winds of Political Change… And Why You Almost Never Feel Them Coming
American Heritage | February/March 2005 | Kevin Baker
Posted on 03/07/2005 12:52:13 AM EST by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1357510/posts

[SunkenCiv]

Ping!

[Berosus]

This isn't really news. People moving from the "Rust Belt" to the "Sun Belt" have been a factor influencing elections for at least a generation. That's why it's critical for a presidential candidate to win in the South these days. By contrast, in the late nineteenth-early twentieth century, Democrats could count on having the South almost every time, unless they nominated a Catholic (e.g. Alfred E. Smith in 1928), while Republicans concentrated their efforts in the North and West, because those areas by themselves had enough votes for them to win.

Myself, I find fertility a more encouraging trend. Conservatives are having more children, while Liberals are aborting, sterilizing and sodomizing themselves out of existence. Read what I wrote about it here last fall:

The Liberal Birth Dearth

[Jim Noble]

I'm a true believer in the basic concept behind the Constitution, which is that the People can rule themselves through representative elections and that their collective choices will, most of the time, reflect their will.

The idea that people will vote Republican based on geography, religion, or their parents is the antithesis of this American civic religion.

The Republicans rose to power based on limited government and fiscal responsibility. They have convincingly disavowed both of these pillars of their majority, and their majority is gone.

Currently unaffililated voters are up for grabs. What will the GOP do to win them? Move up Daylight Saving Time? Build bridges to nowhere? Put JAG officers in charge of warfighters?

Who knows?