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Michael Medved - Flushing Out Fear Mongers from Their Fever Swamps (FR Mentioned)
Town Hall ^ | 1-4-2006 | Michael Medved

Posted on 01/09/2007 8:27:45 AM PST by jmc813

I’m greatly encouraged by the lengthy, indignant responses by prominent scare-mongers Joe Farah and Jerome Corsi to my on-air and on-blog denunciation (“Shame on Demagogues for Exploiting ‘North American Union’!”, 12/28) of their self-promoting paranoia regarding an alleged conspiracy to merge the US, Canada and Mexico. The defensive tone of their commentary suggests that these two have been appropriately embarrassed: Farah, in particular, dramatically deescalated his rhetoric.

While previous commentary on WorldNetDaily prominently and regularly featured the noun “plot” in defining this non-issue, his answer to my purposefully harsh attack omits that key word entirely and uses language in a vastly more responsible and rational style. If I can push an influential (and often insightful) journalist like Farah back toward reasoned debate and the mainstream, then I’ve already succeeded in my chief goal: to prevent conservatives from following self-interested Pied Pipers off a cliff into conspiracist cuckoo land.

I’m particularly gratified at the way that Farah worded his “Daily Poll” on this issue. He posed the question: “What do you make of the talk about the North American Union?” and offered only two alternatives (out of nine) that agreed with the lunatic alarmists on the subject. Those two choices declared: “The evidence keeps mounting. When will people stop being in denial?” and “Plans for a union are an absolute reality, and anyone who can’t see concerted attacks on U.S. sovereignty is blind.” Please note that in declaring “the evidence keeps mounting,” this response never specifies what, exactly this “evidence” is supposed to prove. Similarly, the statement that “plans for a union are an absolute reality” never suggests who it is who is making those plans. If the plans (not “plots” this time) for a North American Union are coming from forces on the left as marginal as the fringies on the right who worry about such shcemes, then there is, indeed, no reason for fear.

Amazingly enough, Farah himself supports this reassuring perspective in his muddled attempt to defend his previous hysteria. He identifies one Robert Pastor “as the man at the very center of the plans for a North American Union.” Pastor is a loony leftist, slightly unhinged professor at American University who was an enthusiastic supporter (and informal advisor) to John Kerry’s Presidential juggernaut--- and who bears no connection whatever to the Bush administration, or the dreaded Security and Prosperity Partnership. If an addled academic with zero power in the government and no clout whatever with the current administration is “the man at the very center of the plans for a North American Union” do those plans really sound so menacing and dire and imminent?

Moreover, even Professor Pastor (in an interview with NAU demagogue-in-chief Jerome Corsi, as quoted by Farah) specifically denies any desire for a North American Union. “Each of the proposals I have laid out represent (sic) more than just small steps,” Pastor proclaimed. “But it doesn’t represent a leap to a North American Union or even to some confederation of any kind. I don’t think either is plausible, necessary or even helpful to contemplate at this stage.” (Italics added)

I know that paranoids and conspiracy connoisseurs will seize on the last three words “at this stage” and scream, “Aha! The dreaded Pastor—the evil academic who’s the architect of the whole diabolical scheme – is suggesting at some later stage it WILL be plausible, necessary, or even helpful to contemplate a North American Union!”

But please, friends, consider this: if even the lefty professor who is considered the most dangerous plotter and visionary on the prospect of US-Mexican-Canadian merger explicitly denies any interest whatever in even contemplating that scheme at this stage, does it really make any sense—any sense at all – to frighten the public into believing that there is a current, powerful mass movement on behalf of such plans?

That’s the essence of my impassioned concern with the demagoguery on this subject: by focusing concern on a non-existent threat, people like Farah and Corsi take attention away from the very real dangers posed by the liberal ideologues who have taken over both houses of Congress.

There are open, undeniable, widely supported plans from the Democratic leadership to cripple the country in our war against Islamo-Nazis, to undermine our security agencies in the name of “constitutional rights,” to raise taxes, to punish productivity, to grow government, to undermine the traditional family, to nationalize health care, to force us all out of our cars (and onto useless mass transit) and to push through precisely the sort of immigration policies that most conservatives will absolutely hate. These plans demand a united Republican Party and a re-energized conservative movement that isn’t distracted and paralyzed by non-existent threats concerning non-existent plans to terminate the independent survival of the United States. (“PREMEDIATED MERGER: How Leaders are Stealthily Transforming USA into North American Union” reads one typical and current Farah headline.)

This is a fateful moment for the conservative moment that Barry Goldwater launched and that Ronald Reagan and Newt Gingrich and, yes, George W. Bush led to some significant triumphs. For the first time since Clinton first came to power 14 years ago, we are definitely in opposition --- coming out of our “thumpin’” in the 2006 elections, all the momentum and energy in Washington has currently shifted to the Democratic side. The next few months will help to determine whether Republicans and conservatives will fight the good fight over issues that matter or dissipate all chance of a return to power through in-fighting, defeatism and self-marginalization. Given the stakes involved with some of the current battles in Washington and around the world, how can any grownup, responsible activist justify focusing on black-helicopter-style threats like the border-dissolving, sovereignty-ending North American Union –- which no elected leaders of administration officials have ever endorsed?

Where, in the past, have conservatives succeeded in building majorities by concentrating on “secret plans” and “high level plots” by their fellow Republicans?

And this brings me to the unfortunate Jerome Corsi, who felt the need in his response to my scorn to bring up some long-ago misunderstanding between us in which he believed I had charged him with anti-Semitism. As I communicated to Corsi in a telephone conversation, I did not recall making that charge on the air and I still don’t believe I ever attacked him in that manner. If I had even hinted at Jew-hatred on Corsi’s part I was willing to apologize, I said.

But now that he’s brought up the long-dead matter once again, I went to the trouble of looking up some of his controversial (and profoundly embarrassing) internet postings from FreeRepublic.com that were publicized in 2004. One of them (03/04/2004) attacked “John F**ing Commie Kerry” as follows: “After he married TerRAHsa, didn’t John Kerry begin practicing Judiasm? (sic). He also has paternal grandparents that were Jewish. What religion is John Kerry?”

Given the fact that neither Kerry nor his wife (either wife, for that matter) ever practiced any form of Judaism (or “Judi-asm”, which might be a form of Judi worship), and given the fact that Theresa Heinz Kerry has never had any connection whatever to the Jewish people or the Jewish religion, and given the fact that Kerry himself has been a well-advertised, professing Catholic all his life, doesn’t Corsi’s snide little comment about Kerry’s “reverting” to the faith from which his paternal grandparents converted, give off unmistakable, fetid whiffs of anti-Semitic obsession?

In the same series of comments he also wrote of the beloved and revered Pope John Paul II: “Boy buggering in both Islam and Catholicism is okay with the Pope as long as it isn’t reported by the liberal press” (03/03/2003) and “We may get one more Pope, when this senile one dies, but that’s probably about it.” (12/16/2002).

And now this same angry, venomous, irresponsible figure wants to be taken seriously when he warns of the looming, desperate danger of North American Union. He insists that he is utterly disinterested and selfless in promoting this grand conspiracy theory--- but then the final line of his posting gives the lie to this preposterous pose. That line announces about Mr. Corsi: “He will soon author a book on the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America and the prospect of the forthcoming North American Union.”

I have no desire whatever to help him promote his latest book which is why I won’t invite him as a guest to debate these issues on my radio show. If he wants to call in (with other members of the public) to make whatever points he chooses to make, he’s welcome to do so on the one national talk show that identifies itself as “Your Daily Dose of Debate” and we’ll move him to the front of the caller line. The phone number, Mr. Corsi (toll free, by the way) is 1-800-955-1776.

And concerning his challenge to me to debate him publicly and formally over his poisonous obsession over phantom dangers, I’ve never in my life turned away from a rhetorical challenge, and I’m not about to do so now. If Corsi wants a debate (over a non-issue that I don’t believe is even worthy of serious discussion) I’m willing to join him if he arranges an appropriate venue and I can participate without incurring debilitating travel or personal expense.

If this sort of confrontation can flush out fringe-figures like Jerome Corsi from the dank, turgid conspiracist fever-swamps he chooses to inhabit, it may perform an important hygienic purpose in returning the conservative movement to the robust health it needs for the serious battles that lie ahead.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
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1 posted on 01/09/2007 8:27:47 AM PST by jmc813
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To: jmc813
went to the trouble of looking up some of his controversial (and profoundly embarrassing) internet postings from FreeRepublic.com that were publicized in 2004. One of them (03/04/2004) attacked “John F**ing Commie Kerry” as follows: “After he married TerRAHsa, didn’t John Kerry begin practicing Judiasm? (sic). He also has paternal grandparents that were Jewish. What religion is John Kerry?”

Everytime someone mentions Free Republic, they always have such nice things to say...

2 posted on 01/09/2007 8:30:10 AM PST by EarthBound (Ex Deo, gratia. Ex astris, scientia)
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To: jmc813

Medved, is a big amnesty supporter. It doesn't surprise me that this would draw his wrath.


3 posted on 01/09/2007 8:33:47 AM PST by NavVet (O)
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To: EarthBound
Jerome Corsi's response too this has been posted here.
4 posted on 01/09/2007 8:35:06 AM PST by jmc813 (Go Jets!)
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To: NavVet
Psst . . . Medved is CFR.
5 posted on 01/09/2007 8:35:14 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: jmc813
But the fact remains, there is an on going effort to push America into globalism. I happen to think the North American Union is a realistic place to start.
Either outcome is unacceptable to me.
6 posted on 01/09/2007 8:39:10 AM PST by WorkerbeeCitizen (Religion of peace my arse - We need a maintenance Crusade - piss on Islam)
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To: beaversmom


7 posted on 01/09/2007 8:40:02 AM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: Kimberly GG; Lurker; texastoo; 1rudeboy; Toddsterpatriot; WilliamofCarmichael; hedgetrimmer; ...

Ping to Round 3 of Corsi vs. Medved


8 posted on 01/09/2007 8:40:06 AM PST by jmc813 (Go Jets!)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen
But the fact remains, there is an on going effort to push America into globalism.

That's because plans to push America into "galaxy-ism" are still on the drawing-board.

9 posted on 01/09/2007 8:41:05 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: jmc813

Our southern boarder is being torn down regardless of what he says.


10 posted on 01/09/2007 8:41:58 AM PST by WorkerbeeCitizen (Religion of peace my arse - We need a maintenance Crusade - piss on Islam)
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To: jmc813
If I can push an influential (and often insightful) journalist like Farah back toward reasoned debate and the mainstream, then I’ve already succeeded in my chief goal: to prevent conservatives from following self-interested Pied Pipers off a cliff into conspiracist cuckoo land.

If only he could help here at cuckoo land, Free Republic.

11 posted on 01/09/2007 8:44:16 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: jmc813
Don't wait for the North American Union push to start. It doesn't have to push. It's already here and has been embedded for quite a while.

It came in on little cat's paws........and is here for good. Or more likely, for bad.

Leni

12 posted on 01/09/2007 8:48:20 AM PST by MinuteGal (The Left takes power only through deception.)
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To: 1rudeboy
Psst . . . Medved is CFR.

Is he actually a member? I tried Googling it up, but the latest Medved/Corsi controversy is jamming up the search results.

13 posted on 01/09/2007 8:49:49 AM PST by jmc813 (Go Jets!)
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To: 1rudeboy
That's because plans to push America into "galaxy-ism" are still on the drawing-board.

LOL!

14 posted on 01/09/2007 8:50:33 AM PST by jmc813 (Go Jets!)
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To: EarthBound

I'm with Jerry Corsi on this drive to strip the USA of it's sovereignty and plunge us into a union with narco-s**thole Mexico. Medved is pathetically trying to tar Jerry Corsi here as an anti Semite. I'm down on Jewish liberals same as J Corsi is, so what!(I'm Jewish)

If Medved has any balls (he doesn't) he'll invite Corsi on his show to duke it out. PLEASE TAKE HEED that Michael Medved is pretty much for open borders/amnesty so putting down Corsi's work is part of a piece


15 posted on 01/09/2007 8:53:49 AM PST by dennisw (Don't let your past become your future -- Georges Gurdjieff)
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To: jmc813

Thanks for posting. Interesting exchanges between Medved and Corsi.


16 posted on 01/09/2007 8:55:04 AM PST by PGalt
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To: jmc813
MICHAEL MEDVED-

Invite Jerry Corsi on your show. Let's see what you got!

17 posted on 01/09/2007 8:55:20 AM PST by dennisw (Don't let your past become your future -- Georges Gurdjieff)
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To: jmc813
But please, friends, consider this: if even the lefty professor who is considered the most dangerous plotter and visionary on the prospect of US-Mexican-Canadian merger explicitly denies any interest whatever in even contemplating that scheme at this stage, does it really make any sense—any sense at all – to frighten the public into believing that there is a current, powerful mass movement on behalf of such plans?

Yes, and George W. Bush denies that his Temporary Guest Worker Program is really just amnesty for Mexican illegal aliens.

But, just as we know that the TGWP is amnesty, we also know that the SPP is working toward a NAU.

18 posted on 01/09/2007 8:57:03 AM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (Karen Ryan reporting...)
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To: Eastbound; Paul Ross

ping


19 posted on 01/09/2007 8:57:49 AM PST by jmc813 (Go Jets!)
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To: jmc813
I've tried to find a CFR membership list for years, with no success. The fact of the matter is it has about as much importance as a list of Who's Who Among American High School Students," and I doubt that even the CFR is aware that the "anti-globalists" (for lack of a better term) wish to see it so fervently.
20 posted on 01/09/2007 8:59:08 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Peach

You got that right!


21 posted on 01/09/2007 8:59:25 AM PST by Kay
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To: dennisw
I [Michael Medved] have no desire whatever to help him promote his latest book which is why I won’t invite him as a guest to debate these issues on my radio show. If he wants to call in (with other members of the public) to make whatever points he chooses to make, he’s welcome to do so on the one national talk show that identifies itself as “Your Daily Dose of Debate” and we’ll move him to the front of the caller line. The phone number, Mr. Corsi (toll free, by the way) is 1-800-955-1776.

And concerning his challenge to me to debate him publicly and formally over his poisonous obsession over phantom dangers, I’ve never in my life turned away from a rhetorical challenge, and I’m not about to do so now. If Corsi wants a debate (over a non-issue that I don’t believe is even worthy of serious discussion) I’m willing to join him if he arranges an appropriate venue and I can participate without incurring debilitating travel or personal expense.


22 posted on 01/09/2007 9:00:45 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: jmc813

When the facts are on Medved's side, he argues facts. When he switches to ad hominum attacks it's a sure sign he has nothing. Congress and the Bush adminstration are planning to give illegals Social Security, which will bankrupt the system even faster than it would otherwise. Yet he prefers to talk about old FR posts. Oh well, illegals won't be competing for his job.


23 posted on 01/09/2007 9:01:06 AM PST by Hugin
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To: dennisw
Medved can give a reasonable movie review, carry on an entertaining guest interview, and crack funny jokes, but he's dead wrong about the illegal immigration problem. We are being balkanized, invaded, and overrun with the social spillage of a third world country with the tacit approval of our own Federal government and asked to foot the bill to boot. Infrastructure is crumbling, social services are going bankrupt, criminal activity is at levels that were unheard of decades ago, and the prisons are filled to the brim. All for a cheap head of lettuce or so the spinmeisters say.
24 posted on 01/09/2007 9:01:27 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: 1rudeboy

PRISSY BOY MEDVED -- what a wimp. Rolls over for illegal aliens & amnesty real good! Will not debate Corsi on his show but with aimlessly squander his time writing anti Corsi essays for Town Hall and others


25 posted on 01/09/2007 9:04:11 AM PST by dennisw (Don't let your past become your future -- Georges Gurdjieff)
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To: 1rudeboy
So Medved is willing to debate him on his show, as long as it is on unequal terms? Meanwhile he has no problem letting scads of leftist whackos come on and promote their books?
26 posted on 01/09/2007 9:04:30 AM PST by Hugin
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To: 1rudeboy
I've tried to find a CFR membership list for years, with no success.

It's definitely out there somewhere, as I know I've seen it plenty of times.

The fact of the matter is it has about as much importance as a list of Who's Who Among American High School Students,"

I remember in '04 when John Edwards attended the CFR meeting several freepers speculated that it was only a matter of time before he was offered the VP nomination. I scoffed at them at the time, but then a few weeks later, was somewhat eerily surprised when it became official. I realize that it was probably just a coincidence, but you can't help but at least speculate sometimes.

27 posted on 01/09/2007 9:05:57 AM PST by jmc813 (Go Jets!)
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To: jmc813

Medved and Farah are both into non-reality land with their attacks on evolution.


28 posted on 01/09/2007 9:06:43 AM PST by narby
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bttt


29 posted on 01/09/2007 9:07:53 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat (An easy 10-team playoff based on the BCS bowls can be implemented by next year. See my homepage.)
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To: SpaceBar
Medved can give a reasonable movie review, carry on an entertaining guest interview, and crack funny jokes, but he's dead wrong about the illegal immigration problem. We are being balkanized, invaded, and overrun with the social spillage of a third world country with the tacit approval of our own Federal government and asked to foot the bill to boot. Infrastructure is crumbling, social services are going bankrupt, criminal activity is at levels that were unheard of decades ago, and the prisons are filled to the brim. All for a cheap head of lettuce or so the spinmeisters say.

Precisely. Michael Medved is usually very good. But on illegal immigration he's in the John McCain wing of the party. Medved is willing to surrender US sovereignty via mass legalizations of illegals, so why would he not be for surrendering US sovereignty via this SSP plan and other schemes that Jerry Corsi has exposed?

Medved is way too comfortable with his thinking. He doesn't value US sovereignty the way many Freepers do

30 posted on 01/09/2007 9:09:12 AM PST by dennisw (Don't let your past become your future -- Georges Gurdjieff)
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To: 1rudeboy
I [Michael Medved] have no desire whatever to help him promote his latest book which is why I won’t invite him as a guest to debate these issues on my radio show. If he wants to call in (with other members of the public) to make whatever points he chooses to make, he’s welcome to do so on the one national talk show that identifies itself as “Your Daily Dose of Debate” and we’ll move him to the front of the caller line.

You've gotta admit, that's a really pu$$y cop-out. Wouldn't him calling in promote his book?

31 posted on 01/09/2007 9:10:36 AM PST by jmc813 (Go Jets!)
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To: 1rudeboy
I've tried to find a CFR membership list for years, with no success.

It's all over the internet. Are you for real?

32 posted on 01/09/2007 9:10:47 AM PST by dennisw (Don't let your past become your future -- Georges Gurdjieff)
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To: Hugin
So Medved is willing to debate him on his show, as long as it is on unequal terms?

It's his show.

33 posted on 01/09/2007 9:11:14 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: dennisw

Post it, then. And tell me where you found it.


34 posted on 01/09/2007 9:12:17 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
Post it, then. And tell me where you found it.

Actually, once I removed "Michael Medved" from my search terms, I found plenty of lists. Medved did not appear on any of them FWIW.

35 posted on 01/09/2007 9:16:11 AM PST by jmc813 (Go Jets!)
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To: Mase; Petronski; MikefromOhio; nopardons; hedgetrimmer

ping!


36 posted on 01/09/2007 9:17:26 AM PST by Alia
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To: 1rudeboy

Right. It's a show based on the format of having guests on who disagree with him so he can debate them on equal terms (and hawk their books). But when it's a conservative who disagrees with him on immigration, suddenly he doesn't want him on because it will promote his book. It's a clear sign that Medved doesn't want to deal with the substance of his arguments.


37 posted on 01/09/2007 9:18:16 AM PST by Hugin
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To: Hugin
When the facts are on Medved's side, he argues facts. When he switches to ad hominum attacks it's a sure sign he has nothing.

Like it or not, the credibility of a source is relevant, not an ad hominum attack.

38 posted on 01/09/2007 9:18:42 AM PST by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do!)
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To: SJackson
Since Corsi documents his sources, and they are public ally available, why is it relevant to the argument? And it most certainly is an ad hominum attack, regardless of the reason.
39 posted on 01/09/2007 9:23:09 AM PST by Hugin
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To: jmc813
The posts referenced:
(03/04/2004)

(03/03/2003)

(12/16/2002)


40 posted on 01/09/2007 9:23:33 AM PST by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: jmc813
I shouldv'e been more specific. I've seen lists myself, just not on the CFR's website. Problem is, anyone can claim Bugs Bunny is CFR . . . but without calling Bugs and asking him(?), what's the point?
41 posted on 01/09/2007 9:24:55 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Hugin
But when it's a conservative who disagrees with him on immigration, suddenly he doesn't want him on because it will promote his book.

Actually, Mr. Medved's position is "clear." We may surmise that he doesn't want Corsi to appear because of the immigration issue, just as we may surmise that he doesn't want Corsi to appear because of the trans-fat issue. Mr. Medved's stated reason is because Corsi believes that George W. Bush has a secret agenda to dissolve the United States into the North American Union.

42 posted on 01/09/2007 9:29:50 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Hugin
Since Corsi documents his sources, and they are public ally available, why is it relevant to the argument? And it most certainly is an ad hominum attack, regardless of the reason.

He doesn't source the existance of a conspiracy to implement a North American EU. That's his conclusion, not fact, he may or may not be correct, but his past conclusions, particularly in a political context, are relevant. If his political style is to engage in sarcastic, ironic, and provocative commentary (Corsi's words), that's also relevant. Particularly when prior sarcastic, ironic, and provocative comments are false.

43 posted on 01/09/2007 9:34:15 AM PST by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do!)
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To: jmc813; A. Pole; B4Ranch
...given the fact that Kerry himself has been a well-advertised, professing Catholic all his life

H'mmm. Isn't it interesting that Michael Medved, of rather dubious conservative pedigree himself, goes out of his way to buy into the John Kerry "resume" which has proven over and over again to be of less than convincing merit. JFKerry's catholicism may have been bally-hooed by that candidate in his shameless self-promotion...but it's practice is less-than-manifest in his life, and political positions. All real conservatives...indeed, all U.S. citizens... are entitled to a healthy skepticism and concern on Kerry. Not for his religion, but for the actual motivational core principles that would guide Mr. Kerry as a Senator...or still more alarmingly...as President of the United States. It has been surmised that he has no core beliefs and has only ambition itself as his real creed. I believe that was what Corsi was saying.

It makes no difference whether he is Catholic, Jewish, Protestant, or perhaps Suffi Muslim...or atheist. He does, however, seem to need to make up his mind. His flip-flopping tendancy was a core campaign issue, that the Bush campaign also picked up on. Somehow, though, Medved doesn't here...instead he focusses on his own fevered, fetid accusations.

... doesn’t Corsi’s snide little comment about Kerry’s “reverting” to the faith from which his paternal grandparents converted, give off unmistakable, fetid whiffs of anti-Semitic obsession?

Huh? Sounds to me that Michael Medved is hyper-sensitive on this issue.

It really doesn't sound like that at all, let alone "unmistakeable" or "fetid" or "obsession." Corsi was zeroing in on the PERSONALITY DEFECT in Kerry, not his religion. We have a candidate who has established a pattern of trying to say and be all things to all interest groups. Shamelessly seeking with falsehoods to "identify" with them...

Corsi's was an interesting question. Rather than having the questioner cavalierly dumped on for bigotry, perhaps Mr. Medved should have instead investigated the answer to the question and the ultimate issues, rather than squander his time apparently looking for ad hominem dirt on Corsi.

And the rest of Medved's ranting diatribe is worse than the fever swamp which he condemns. Medved's imbroglio rhetorical approach is simply "fetid" and his evasion of the myriads of substantive evidences of the SPP "game-plan" following in the shoes of the EU "game-plan" ...recently admitted as a covert one and published by its architects...puts the "deniars" such as Medved on the defensive.

And the question has to be asked...why now? Why is Medved suddenly desperate to weigh into this issue trying to deny it, and cause as much damage to conservatives as he can, except that certain incontrovertible embarassing facts have now come to light. I.e., the recent FOIA disclosure that Illegal Aliens would qualify for Social Security under Totalization...a fact also previously carefully DENIED and concealed by the Administration in its 2004 agreement with Mexico.

They...and their waterboy Medved have some 'splainin' to do.

Medved is one of those who believes the best defense is a good offense. Make no mistake, although superficially attacking via ad hominems, Medved is very much on the defense substantively.

Of the SNR pundits, it would appear Medved is the most-egregious water boy for this administration (right or wrong), and his role in this skull-duggery will be remembered. Bennett, Ingraham, Prager, and at times, Hewitt have shown some independence. Unlike them however, Medved's noticeably weaker record in this regard is rather embarassing.

And for him to lead this charge of anti-semitism...reminds one of Shakespeare's Macbeth and like the Lady he doth protest too much...

It suggests that the Administration is finally feeling the heat for its covert globalist agenda. And, it knows that its lease on political life is shorter still than the end of the term of office. It knows that the prextext authority for the SPP negotiations...fast track authority...lapses in July of this year...and the Congress has shown no inclination of renewing it...

Other examples of the heat being turned up by the Administration itself, are the sudden editorial action by the Wall Street Journal's full-court press trying to pimp for the FTAA, 'free trade agreement of the Americas'.

44 posted on 01/09/2007 9:39:01 AM PST by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: NavVet

Medved is a big supporter of the Truth hence he must attempt to dispell the paranoid ravings of these nutcases and their True Believers here.


45 posted on 01/09/2007 9:42:49 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: 1rudeboy

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/cfrall1.htm


46 posted on 01/09/2007 9:42:54 AM PST by dennisw (Don't let your past become your future -- Georges Gurdjieff)
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Isn't it interesting that Michael Medved, of rather dubious conservative pedigree himself

Oh jeez, is Medved one of those folks who used to be classified as leftists but "moved to the right" due to one or two issues? With an exception of David Horowitz, they piss me off.

47 posted on 01/09/2007 9:42:54 AM PST by jmc813 (Go Jets!)
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To: Paul Ross
Bennett, Ingraham, Prager, and at times, Hewitt have shown some independence.

Laura Ingraham has brought up this NAU business on a few occasions. I suppose that makes her a "drunken lying bastard".

48 posted on 01/09/2007 9:45:38 AM PST by jmc813 (Go Jets!)
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H'mmm. Isn't it interesting that Michael Medved, of rather dubious conservative pedigree himself, goes out of his way to buy into the John Kerry "resume" which has proven over and over again to be of less than convincing merit. JFKerry's catholicism may have been bally-hooed by that candidate in his shameless self-promotion...but it's practice is less-than-manifest in his life, and political positions. All real conservatives...indeed, all U.S. citizens... are entitled to a healthy skepticism and concern on Kerry. Not for his religion, but for the actual motivational core principles that would guide Mr. Kerry as a Senator...or still more alarmingly...as President of the United States. 

Right! Kerry fooled people for years up in Boston with phony Irish name. He is of half Jewish heritage, the rest is WASP/Brahmin

It has been surmised that he has no core beliefs and has only ambition itself as his real creed. I believe that was what Corsi was saying.

Kerry has always been a smart Alec who liked to put one over on people. I lived in Massachusetts, saw him in action

49 posted on 01/09/2007 9:46:40 AM PST by dennisw (Don't let your past become your future -- Georges Gurdjieff)
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When the facts are on Medved's side, he argues facts. When he switches to ad hominum attacks it's a sure sign he has nothing

Good point

50 posted on 01/09/2007 9:49:42 AM PST by A. Pole (Hugo Chavez: "Huele a azufre, pero Dios está con nosotros")
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