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Mitt Romney: A Massachusetts Liberal for President
American Thinker ^ | January.9, 2007 | Selwyn Duke

Posted on 01/09/2007 6:41:03 PM PST by Reagan Man

With the 2008 presidential campaign looming just on the horizon, speculation about political fortunes abounds. On the Democrat side, Lady Hillary is waiting in the wings, and the media's profilers have found their fair-haired boy in Barack Obama. On the Republican side, the picture is murkier. Often the Vice-president would be the logical choice to carry the incumbent party's torch, but Dick Cheney won't be running and, even if he did, he wouldn't win. Of course, Arizona Senator John McCain is still around, but he arouses suspicion among conservatives. Seeming worn, tired, erratic and untrustworthy, many think the old soldier should just fade away.

Enter Mitt Romney. Inching ever closer to a presidential run, the former CEO and outgoing Governor of Massachusetts is emerging as the Barack Obama of the GOP. And the analogy is apt. He has the resonant voice, the good looks, the statesman-like bearing and, going Obama two better, great hair and unobtrusive ears.

But Romney shares another commonality with Obama: He's a liberal in his party masquerading as something more palatable. Yes, sugar and spice and dealing the deck twice, that's what little politicians are made of.

As to this point, another politico he can be compared to is Al Gore. Like Gore, Romney has flip-flopped on abortion, only in the other direction. While he now claims to be pro-life, he supported legalization of the "morning-after" abortion pill, RU-486. Moreover, as recently as his 2002 run for governor his platform stated,

"The choice to have an abortion is a deeply personal one. Women should be free to choose based on their own beliefs, not the government's."

Of course, Romney says that his views have "evolved." But I strongly suspect his adaptation relates more to the evolution of political ambitions than that of conscience. Call me cynical, but unless you've been cloistered in an ancient monastery for the duration, I'm very suspicious of deep personal growth occurring between ages 55 and 59.

According to Romney, unlike himself, the "paradigm" of marriage is not "evolving," and his high profile stand against anti-marriage has garnered him much publicity of late. But here, too, Romney has been about as consistent as March weather, with a track record that belies his newfound traditionalism.

In a letter to the Log Cabin Republicans, Romney hailed Bill Clinton's "don't ask, don't tell" policy as a "step in the right direction" and "the first of a number of steps" toward homosexuals serving "openly" in the military.

Then, Brian Camenker points out the following in The Mitt Romney Deception:

- "Romney's campaign distributed pro-gay rights campaign literature during Boston's ‘Gay Pride' events," issuing pink fliers stating, "Mitt and Kerry [running mate Kerry Healey] wish you a great Pride weekend! All citizens deserve equal rights, regardless of their sexual preference."

- Romney advocated governmental recognition of homosexual adoption rights, domestic partnerships and homosexual civil unions.

- Romney opposed the Boy Scouts' policy prohibiting homosexuals from serving as scoutmasters and prevented the organization from participating publicly in the 2002 Olympics.

- The Boston Globe wrote in 2005, "Governor Mitt Romney, who touts his conservative credentials to out-of-state Republicans, has passed over GOP lawyers for three-quarters of the 36 judicial vacancies he has faced, instead tapping registered Democrats or independents - including two gay lawyers who have supported expanded same-sex rights."

- Romney promoted homosexual propaganda in Massachusetts schools through the "Governor's Commission on Gay and Lesbian Youth," funding this bureaucracy of social engineering instead of eliminating it.

Thus, it's no wonder that while campaigning against Ted Kennedy in 1994, Romney said that anti-marriage "is not appropriate at this time." My guess is that the time will be right when the electorate is left.

Equally damning, though, is that in a very ominous way he can be compared to yet another infamous poseur, Hillary Clinton. On April 12, 2006, Romney signed a bill into law that creates a universal health system intrusive enough to be the envy of socialists everywhere. The plan mandates that every Ma. resident must obtain health insurance by July 1, 2007, or face a fine that could exceed 1,200 dollars a year. Of course, this scheme includes the creation of a new bureaucracy, one that will, using Big Brother's infinite wisdom, determine how much you can afford to pay. Wow, thanks for the help, Mitt. Or, is it "Vinny the Chin"? I mean, this sounds like an offer you just can't refuse.

To justify his socialist brainchild, Romney uses the argument that it is no different from requiring people to carry car insurance. Ah, speciousness, thy name is Romney. Mr. Governor, you can choose not to own a car.

Everyone must have a body.

But remember this when Romney touts his credentials as a fiscal conservative. While he may boast of his steadfast refusal to raise taxes, it rings hollow when he turns around and mandates citizen expenditures and levies fines. But liberals are adept at revenue-raising sleight-of-hand; when another tax increase would raise voter ire, they simply deem it a toll, fine, fee or, I love this one, a "surcharge." I prefer honest theft myself.

President Bush is often excoriated for betraying his conservative base, a perception that contributes to poll numbers lower than Ted Kennedy's jowls. What is forgotten, however, is that while campaigning for the presidency in 2000, Bush accused the Republican Congress of trying ". . . to balance the budget on the backs of the poor," a line that could have been culled from Democrat talking points. Folks, the president never cast himself as anything but exactly what he is. We just weren't listening.

Are we listening now?

Ah, those Massachusetts liberals: Studds, Frank, Kennedy and Willard Mitt Romney. It just seems to roll off the tongue.

Bernie Sanders for veep, anyone?


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To: UWconservative

That's because you are all of 20 and open, premarital sex, is now accepted by most of the public at large and by all of the people your age. It was NOT always thus. And it most certainly was NOT accepted by your religion.


501 posted on 01/10/2007 12:23:27 AM PST by nopardons
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP; Howlin; Chena; Ms. AntiFeminazi; onyx

Actually, I'm sorry. You don't deserve any more, so I'll end this sham.

Yes, I'm really 20 from Seattle etc. But no, I'm not really a believer. I'm an atheist from DU who came with the intention of trolling and stirring up trouble. Kept this account for a while. I'm not the idealistic fool I've been playing here, nor the monster my posts suggest. I'll be banned, c'est la vie.

FWIW I was a libertarian Republican type since 9 (haha yeah good old days) but Bush basically alienated me. Doesn't mean I'm a kool-aide drinker for Dems either. Some of you people seem pretty nice (sans Howlin)- why are you here? lol


I go by bluewave at DU. See you around.

PS: BTW, I think you guys will ruin yourselves with these candidates. Go with Romney, the least worst of the bunch FTW.


502 posted on 01/10/2007 12:25:01 AM PST by UWconservative
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Romney is a lame duck...

Aren't you being a bit premature in that assessment? I understand that he already has organizational set-ups in all states, and yesterday he raised 6.5 million dollars in one day.....after only announcing his candidacy in the past few days. Let's wait and see. Of all of the Rep. candidates so far, he has less baggage and imo is more ABLE.

503 posted on 01/10/2007 12:25:18 AM PST by Carolinamom (Thank God that Mary and Joseph were not pro-choicers.)
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To: UWconservative

Sounds like a Desperate Housewife...


504 posted on 01/10/2007 12:26:07 AM PST by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
My year would be better, if I wasn't facing some dental work, but otherwise, it's okay.

Oh dear, I'm sorry to hear about your mother. I'll keep all of you in my prayers. The earlier they find it, the better the prognosis is for a full recovery. Chin up and please keep me posted on how things are going.

505 posted on 01/10/2007 12:27:33 AM PST by nopardons
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To: Saundra Duffy

He was wrong... two years ago?

"I thought it was a blob of tissue but now I think it's a baby. Does Jerry Falwell like me now?"


506 posted on 01/10/2007 12:27:35 AM PST by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: UWconservative

There was something way too advanced for this one.....

Dishonest front to boot. So do any of us need to go take a shower now?


507 posted on 01/10/2007 12:28:08 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP
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To: EternalVigilance; Torie

That is Clintonian, as Torie offered on an earlier thread, no matter how you parse it.


508 posted on 01/10/2007 12:28:53 AM PST by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Dalliances?

Scandals?

Terrible press before and after becoming president?

ALL of the above and then some? :-)

509 posted on 01/10/2007 12:30:39 AM PST by nopardons
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To: Carolinamom

I like Rudy & Hunter for VP at this time. The reason I said that about Romney was, he is from the East Coast Blue Blood realm. These people do not sit well here in fly over country. He may have been a Governor, which is a plus, but the area he is from cancels out the rest.


510 posted on 01/10/2007 12:32:12 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
You haven't even seen a picture and you know! LOL

Actually, yes, my grandson IS very smart and you really can see it in his eyes. :-)

My husband and I raised our daughter right! She is a Conservative and wouldn't even date a liberal, before she met and married MR. Right. Both of them are FREEPERS, BTW; as is my husband. That little baby has no chance, NONE, of being raised anything but the right way. LOL

511 posted on 01/10/2007 12:34:17 AM PST by nopardons
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Romney is from Michigan. His father either ran for or was governor there, wasn't he?


512 posted on 01/10/2007 12:35:02 AM PST by Carolinamom (Thank God that Mary and Joseph were not pro-choicers.)
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To: UWconservative

Oh well, it was still interesting. Here's some food for thought that you can take with you back to DU. I know that most of the DU'ers aren't intelligent nor informed, but be that as it may, they'll still get a kick out of this....and who knows....maybe the ones who still have an ounce of sense might want to do some research before they fall hook, line and sinker for the DU spin on reality.

The Democrats now promise "A New Direction For America"

Well............................

The stock market is at a new all-time high and America 's 401K's are back.
A new direction from there means, what?

Unemployment is at 25 year lows.
A new direction from there means, what?

Oil prices are plummeting.
A new direction from there means, what?

Taxes are at 20 year lows.
A new direction from there means, what?

Federal tax revenues are at all-time highs.
A new direction from there means, what?

The Federal deficit is down almost 50%, just as predicted over last year.
A new direction from there means. what?

Home valuations are up 200% over the past 3.5 years.
A new direction from there means, what?

Inflation is in check, hovering at 20 year lows.
A new direction from there means, what?

Not a single terrorist attack on US soil since 9/11/01.
A new direction from there means, what?

Osama bin Laden is living under a rock in a dark cave, having not surfaced
in years, if he's alive at all, while 95% of Al Queda's top dogs are either dead
or in custody, cooperating with US Intel.
A new direction from there means, what?

Several major terrorist attacks already thwarted by US and British Intel,
including the recent planned attack involving 10 Jumbo Jets being exploded in mid-air over major US cities in order to celebrate the anniversary of the 9/11/01 attacks.
A new direction from there means, what?

Just as President Bush foretold us on a number of occasions, Iraq was to be made "ground zero" for the war on terrorism -- and just as President Bush said they would, terrorist cells from all over the region are arriving from the
shadows of their hiding places and flooding into Iraq in order to get their faces blown off by US Marines rather than boarding planes and heading to the United States to wage war on us here.
A new direction from there means, what?

Now let me see, do I have this right? I can expect:

The economy to go South

Illegals to go North

Taxes to go Up

Employment to go Down

Terrorism to come In

Tax breaks to go Out

Social Security to go Away

Health Care to go the same way gas prices have gone

But what the heck!

I can gain comfort by knowing that Nancy P, Hillary C, John K, Edward K, Howard D, Harry R and Obama have worked hard to create a comprehensive National Security Plan, Health Care Plan, Immigration Reform Plan, Gay Rights Plan, Same Sex Marriage Plan, Abortion On Demand Plan, Tolerance of Everyone and Everything Plan, How to Return all Troops to the U.S. in The Next Six Months Plan, A Get Tough Plan, adapted from the French Plan by the same name and a How Everyone Can Become as Wealthy as We Are Plan.

I forgot the No More Katrina Storm Plan.

Now I know why I feel good after the elections. I am going to be able to sleep so much better at nights knowing these dedicated politicians are thinking of me and my welfare.


513 posted on 01/10/2007 12:37:08 AM PST by Chena
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To: nopardons
Did you read # 502? I suspected something like that all along, I was holding my breath there. Typical coming from a "Seatalista"!
514 posted on 01/10/2007 12:37:09 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP
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To: UWconservative; Howlin

Hey Howlin, the DUer likes you!


515 posted on 01/10/2007 12:37:09 AM PST by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: streetpreacher

Can you not read?

He doesn't LIKE me.

Nobody ever likes it when you question their sincerity or truthfulness.


516 posted on 01/10/2007 12:38:29 AM PST by Howlin (Don't blame me, I voted Republican!)
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To: Chena

Excellent.


517 posted on 01/10/2007 12:39:23 AM PST by Howlin (Don't blame me, I voted Republican!)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

All of us now need to take a shower and scrub down with lye soap, after that one. YUCK!


518 posted on 01/10/2007 12:39:38 AM PST by nopardons
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To: Carolinamom

His father ran for PRESIDENT, actually.


519 posted on 01/10/2007 12:40:36 AM PST by nopardons
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To: Chena

Excellent! You've made your/our case.


520 posted on 01/10/2007 12:40:47 AM PST by Carolinamom (Thank God that Mary and Joseph were not pro-choicers.)
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To: Chena

BRAVA !


521 posted on 01/10/2007 12:41:41 AM PST by nopardons
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Yeah, read it and my troll meter had been doing flips all night. But I was waiting for something major to be said, before I called in a Mod.


522 posted on 01/10/2007 12:43:17 AM PST by nopardons
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To: Chena

The MOOSE are headed for the swamp!


523 posted on 01/10/2007 12:43:48 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP
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To: Howlin

Oh, you're right! Good job then. Carry on.


524 posted on 01/10/2007 12:44:23 AM PST by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: nopardons

They think they are so crafty, but their ideology proves otherwise.


525 posted on 01/10/2007 12:45:33 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP
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To: nopardons

A sleeper since December 2005? Not bad.


526 posted on 01/10/2007 12:47:05 AM PST by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: Reagan Man

Yay! gay marriage, gay unions and gay America. Vote Romney!


527 posted on 01/10/2007 12:48:37 AM PST by Bush2004
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
They ALWAYS think that they know more than we do, but they don't.

This one was smart enough to know where the line is, though and he never did cross it. He just looked like an ill educated kid; which is what he is.

528 posted on 01/10/2007 12:51:52 AM PST by nopardons
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To: streetpreacher

Not bad, but he wasn't your typical troll. He managed to not cross the line; just look like an idiot. And if people here got zotted for looking like an idiot, FR would have a whole lot less posters! LOL


529 posted on 01/10/2007 12:53:21 AM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
Thanks for squashing that one....You beat me to it.

Now I must hit the hay, and dream about a world without DUmmies!

Night All, sleep safe and well.
530 posted on 01/10/2007 12:53:58 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP
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To: nopardons

Thanks for the kind thoughts about my mother.

I MUST get sleep now.

See you soon.


531 posted on 01/10/2007 12:58:30 AM PST by Pan_Yans Wife
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
I'm off to beddy byes, myself.

Good night, I wish pleasant dreams....all about a world without DUmmies and craven CINOS. :-)

532 posted on 01/10/2007 1:03:48 AM PST by nopardons
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To: Pan_Yans Wife

You're welcome.....nighty night.


533 posted on 01/10/2007 1:04:27 AM PST by nopardons
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To: Pukin Dog
I'd bet you didn't know there was a time when Reagan was pro-abortion?

But not when it mattered
534 posted on 01/10/2007 1:15:22 AM PST by TheRedSoxWinThePennant
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To: nopardons

Illegitimate children.

I guess Thomas Jefferson would be unworthy of the office of President today.


535 posted on 01/10/2007 4:27:45 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Howlin; Reagan Man

I have lotsa arguments with Reagan Man, particularly regarding economics. But he, like many here, see Reagan as the gold standard. Right now, there looks to be very little in the 08 candidates that we can get excited about. Our goal should be to elevate a candidate who has that over-arching conservative vision, and we need to fight those battles this year, so we get a candidate that both the Reagan Mans and the Howlins of the world can support. That should be our goal. So let the arguments ensue, but we all need to keep that in mind.


536 posted on 01/10/2007 4:46:53 AM PST by pissant
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To: EternalVigilance

Let me get this straight....you will not vote for anyone other than a bible thumper? You can't wrap religion around everything. I happen to be a Christian with the utmost moral values and standards. So before you start, don't label me an athiest, agnostic, et al.

There are things that I don't like about every candidate in question. I just have to boil it down to those I just couldn't get over. I can't stand John McCain but you can bet your a$$ I will take the lesser of two evils if he's our guy vs. Hitlery, Edwards or Obama. This staying home crap cost us control this past November and it makes me sick.

Hunter and Huckabee are great conservatives. They have ZERO name recognition and if you have ZERO name recognition in January of 2007 for the 2008 election, then you have ZERO chance of winning the ticket.

I will tell you this right now...if everybody takes your position on the "candidates" we think will be on our ticket, say hello to President Clinton.

For Christsake, when are you people going to realize that the perfect candidate isn't out there.


537 posted on 01/10/2007 4:54:55 AM PST by Reagan08
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To: Obilisk18
Huh. Is big government cutting 1.6 billion of spending of a 25 billion dollar budget in a single year? Wait, I get it. This is one of those games where words mean their opposite. Ok, ok I'll try one. You have a clue.

If putting in place socialized medicine in your state doesn't make a you big government liberal, nothing does. Mitt Romney is a big government liberal.
538 posted on 01/10/2007 6:40:15 AM PST by Antoninus ( Rudy McRomney as the GOP nominee = President Hillary. Why else do you think the media loves them?)
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To: Saundra Duffy
I think it's great that Romney comes right out and says he was wrong in the past and he changed his mind. Took guts.

You might be right--if I believed a word that came out of Romney's mouth. I was living in MA when Romney ran against "the swimmer" for senate. He made himself into the very portrait of a pathetic liberal to attempt to unseat Tubby Teddy. It didn't work, but it left me with the image of him as a politician that will say and do anything to get elected--i.e. a phony.

Seems to me like he's still dancing the same jig.
539 posted on 01/10/2007 6:43:20 AM PST by Antoninus ( Rudy McRomney as the GOP nominee = President Hillary. Why else do you think the media loves them?)
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To: UWconservative
... I'm an atheist from DU who came with the intention of trolling and stirring up trouble. Kept this account for a while. I'm not the idealistic fool I've been playing here, nor the monster my posts suggest. I'll be banned, c'est la vie. ...

This whole thread's goal is division, so your effort is like a double negative when you admit you're a fifth columnist. Double negative/positive - positive in that it re-affirms the belief that you scummy DU ilk have about as many pond scum here as there are honest members. Acting the caricature just to embarrass and divide.

540 posted on 01/10/2007 7:31:54 AM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: Torie; EternalVigilance
Its one thing to favor Roe. It its quite another thing to support abortion anytime, anywhere, and for any reason. I refuse to vote for any candidate who holds those views.

I would be open to voting for a pro-choice Republican if he/she, at least supports reasonable restrictions like parental consent, 24 waiting period for abortion, and affirms the Hyde Amendment (a federal law which bars Medicaid funds for abortion services).
542 posted on 01/10/2007 8:01:49 AM PST by Kuksool (I learned more about political science on FR than in college)
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To: Torie

Mitt Romney doesn't favor civil unions. He has only said that he prefers them to gay marriage.


543 posted on 01/10/2007 8:20:56 AM PST by Andy'smom
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

He's not east coast blue blood. His father was the governor of Michigan.


544 posted on 01/10/2007 8:35:10 AM PST by Andy'smom
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To: plain talk
I see. Because by being alive, I am a liability to others. Ice cream and junk food and booze and daring sports contribute greatly to that liability -- and since the government is involved in mandating how I handle my "liability to others" in just being alive, it therefore eventually has a right to determine that I should not indulge in ice cream, junk food, etc. because of the possible liability it increases to others. There's no inbetween here, whether you like it or not -- either you create a scenario in which the government is all-powerful in arbitrating so-called "liability" with regard to individual health habits, or one in which it has zero power. Mandatory health insurance, a consequence of not choice but the simple fact of being ALIVE, is absurd and socialistic in the extreme.

No matter how it is couched, YOU CANNOT COMPARE IT TO CAR INSURANCE because one chooses to drive -- if you want to avoid car insurance, don't drive. Mandatory health insurance, on the other hand -- what, if you want to avoid it, you die? It is NO BUSINESS OF THE GOVERNNMENT whether or not I have health insurance. If there is a problem with being a "liability to others," then the system needs to change in the direction of more freedom rather than more regulation. Mandatory health insurance is a BAD IDEA and it is UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

545 posted on 01/10/2007 8:55:09 AM PST by Finny (God continue to Bless President G.W. Bush with wisdom, popularity, safety and success.)
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To: Reagan08
For Christsake, when are you people going to realize that the perfect candidate isn't out there.

Not in your or my lifetime.

546 posted on 01/10/2007 9:15:58 AM PST by Howlin (Don't blame me, I voted Republican!)
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To: TheRedSoxWinThePennant
But not when it mattered

So the babies aborted when he believed in abortion don't matter to you?

When exactly did it START mattering?

547 posted on 01/10/2007 9:17:48 AM PST by Howlin (Don't blame me, I voted Republican!)
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To: Reagan Man

Thanks for posting both of those articles. It would have been good to cross link them yourself as early as you were able. It would have helped the discussion.


548 posted on 01/10/2007 9:52:39 AM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: nopardons

no actually I was a child during that time..


549 posted on 01/10/2007 12:41:02 PM PST by JSDude1
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To: JSDude1
Which is why all you now know is the fairy tale; not the truth.

Reagan has been mythographized even more than George Washington and Thomas Jefferson have been. For anyone not alive or not old enough during a president's term/s, they should really read contemporaneously written newspapers, pamphlets, letters, and books, in order to get a more well rounded view of the subject and the times.

550 posted on 01/10/2007 1:27:54 PM PST by nopardons
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