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Why is it when our defense contractors come up with something for the troops, the press lambaste them? But when it's someone else, they automatically assume we MUST buy it. Sorry, but the fact is, I have a real issue with the assertions made in this article. How Trophy works is not explained very well in this article. And ol' Lisa doesn't give much thought to the fact that what if Trophy engages friendlies by mistake, say accompanying infantry or civilians? Will Lisa remember this glowing report? Nope, she'll change her tune and scream "Boondoggle"!
1 posted on 01/09/2007 9:07:28 PM PST by Braak
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To: Braak
Pure hit piece!

Chance of hitting dismounts - 1%? My BS meter exploded.

If the reporter (and I use the term very loosely) had a clue, she would have asked to see the IDF trials.
How the IDF planned to use the system (tanks AIN'T APCs) and the reloaded/one shot use was danced around big time. I could go on, but why waste the B/W?


Hit piece.

Blech.
2 posted on 01/09/2007 9:11:38 PM PST by ASOC (The phrase "What if" or "If only" are for children.)
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To: Braak
I saw their demonstration video and it looks like it could be applicable in certain situations but my thought was "What about the dismounts outside of the vehicle?"

Obvious hit piece. If we go for this then they'll come out against it.

4 posted on 01/09/2007 9:23:53 PM PST by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To check out the Army's claims, we went back to Israel. We found that the Israeli military has indeed begun to integrate and field Trophy on tanks, buying at least 100 systems. Brig. Gen. Amir Nir leads that effort. We asked him about claims that Trophy has not been sufficiently tested and that it's not ready to be deployed. "It's the most mature, and it can do the job," he said. "We cannot afford waiting for the next generation."

This speaks volumes. If there were serious reasons to doubt the weapon's effectiveness, it might make good sense to defer. But this should settle the issue.

5 posted on 01/09/2007 9:25:24 PM PST by AmericanExceptionalist (Democrats believe in discussing the full spectrum of ideas, all the way from far left to center-left)
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To: Braak
Here's a thread on a piece released by Raytheon today on their system. Could the two articles being released on the same day be a coincidence?
6 posted on 01/09/2007 9:27:10 PM PST by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: Braak

Ha! Silencio, a? Dis is America, a? So Iya ain't gotta no thing say 'bout no steenking good deal widda da government.


7 posted on 01/09/2007 9:29:39 PM PST by familyop ("G-d is on our side because he hates the Yanks." --St. Tuco, in the "Good, the Bad, and the Ugly")
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Well, if this could save American lives and improve the sittutaion in Iraq, it has to be forbidden.


8 posted on 01/09/2007 9:32:03 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Well, it's 2007. Time to get ready for 2008.)
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To: Braak

In other words, show us taxpayers some cost and effectiveness numbers to compare the FCS to the Trophy. Rhetoric might work in the old country (Sicily, for example), but it isn't enough here.


9 posted on 01/09/2007 9:35:37 PM PST by familyop ("G-d is on our side because he hates the Yanks." --St. Tuco, in the "Good, the Bad, and the Ugly")
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And the numbers reported sound bogus as well... The velocity of the device, reported as "hundreds of miles a minute" can't be right... Assuming 100 miles a minute, that works out to more than 8700 ft/sec... That can't be right... IIRC, doesn't the APFSDS round fired in the 120mm cannons have a velocity of less that 6000fps?

More nonsense/lies from the MSM!

Mark

13 posted on 01/09/2007 10:00:01 PM PST by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: Braak

Trophy has never worked as advertised. In addition, it is a serious hazard to exposed troops and nearby civilians. The U.S. Army is never going to use it in a counterinsurgency environment.

The manufacturer is waging a very intensive disinformation campaign to get the media to do just what they have done.


14 posted on 01/10/2007 5:33:40 AM PST by centurion316 (Democrats - Supporting Al Qaida Worldwide)
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