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Bush adding 21,500 troops to Iraq force - LIVE thread- speech 9pm EST
Yahoo/AP ^ | 1-10-07 | TerenceHunt

Posted on 01/10/2007 2:30:20 PM PST by STARWISE

Unswayed by anti-war passions, President Bush will send 21,500 additional U.S. troops to Iraq and build the American presence there toward its highest level to quell worsening bloodshed. The move puts Bush on a collision course with the new Democratic Congress and runs counter to advice from some senior generals.

Set to announce his decisions in a prime-time speech Wednesday night, Bush was to acknowledge making major mistakes in Iraq, primarily failing to deploy enough U.S. soldiers and demand more Iraqi troops and cooperation to confront the country's near-anarchy.

In advance of Bush's address, White House counselor Dan Bartlett said U.S. military operations have been "handcuffed by political interference by Iraqi leadership" — but now will proceed under rules allowing troops to confront Shiite militias as well as Sunni insurgents.

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The new Democratic leaders of Congress met with Bush and complained afterward that their opposition to a buildup had been ignored. "This is the third time we are going down this path. Two times this has not worked," said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif. "Why are they doing this now? That question remains."

Senate and House Democrats are arranging votes urging the president not to send more troops. While lacking the force of law, the measures would compel Republicans to go on record as either bucking the president or supporting an escalation.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; bush; iran; iraq; presbush; syria; troops; wot
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God bless our courageous President and Commander-in-Chief and our most awesome military!


1 posted on 01/10/2007 2:30:26 PM PST by STARWISE
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To: STARWISE

1st?


2 posted on 01/10/2007 2:33:29 PM PST by Mo1 (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC AND DONATE)
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To: STARWISE

Thanks for the thread!


3 posted on 01/10/2007 2:34:05 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: STARWISE

Why even give a speech? Everything he seems to want to tell us has already been leaked out.


4 posted on 01/10/2007 2:34:52 PM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: STARWISE
The LEADING EDGE of our troop surge is already to Baghdad!

God bless and protect our troops and our Commander in Chief!

5 posted on 01/10/2007 2:35:32 PM PST by ohioWfan (President Bush - courageously and honorably protecting us in dangerous times, . Praise the Lord!)
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To: STARWISE

He should put in more troops, if they're needed.


6 posted on 01/10/2007 2:35:40 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: Mo1; onyx; LUV W
;)
7 posted on 01/10/2007 2:40:03 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: STARWISE

Highlights of the Iraq Strategy Review (PDF)
http://www.whitehouse.gov/nsc/iraq/2007/iraq-strategy011007.pdf

Background Briefing by Senior Administration Officials
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/01/20070110-1.html

In Focus: Renewal in Iraq
http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/iraq/


8 posted on 01/10/2007 2:44:12 PM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (We are going to win!))
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To: All

9 posted on 01/10/2007 2:46:20 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: STARWISE
I've mentioned the Vietnam analogy before. As to "anti-war passions" tell the nincompoop reporter to get back to us when 500,000 antiwar protestors take over Washington DC, as they did when Nixon invaded Cambodia.

That was passion and BTW Nixon followed HIS policy anyway.

10 posted on 01/10/2007 2:46:35 PM PST by Williams
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To: All
"The president said Iraq must meet its responsibilities, too — but he put no deadlines on Baghdad to do so.

"America's commitment is not open-ended," he was to say. "If the Iraqi government does not follow through on its promises, it will lose the support of the American people and it will lose the support of the Iraqi people."

11 posted on 01/10/2007 2:47:43 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: STARWISE

bbl....gonna have dinner....


12 posted on 01/10/2007 2:48:22 PM PST by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero........God Speed Jonathan......)
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To: STARWISE

Watch LIVE streaming video of President Bush's address to the nation tonight at 9 p.m. EST on FOXNews.com


13 posted on 01/10/2007 2:48:31 PM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (We are going to win!))
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To: STARWISE

first page


14 posted on 01/10/2007 2:49:08 PM PST by HOTTIEBOY ("dingleberry" LOL! You guys crack me up.....)
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To: bnelson44

Go after all the hot spots in Iraq, starting with Sadr city and bomb the cr@^ out of each province until the opposition is wiped out. NO mercy. We should have had this attitude all the way through...don't hamstring the military, just let them clean house. If Iraq president doesn't like it, call a press conference and announce that we are facing opposition from the people we're trying to help and give him a choice: support our efforts to help you or we're out and we're not leaving anything behind!


15 posted on 01/10/2007 2:50:00 PM PST by princess leah
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To: STARWISE

Thanks for starting the thread. God Bless our President and the United States Military!!


16 posted on 01/10/2007 2:50:22 PM PST by penelopesire
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To: STARWISE

"America's commitment is not open-ended,"

But perhaps it should be. We hung around long enough in Germany and Japan to make sure that the sacrifices of our servicemen and woman were not rendered meaningless.


17 posted on 01/10/2007 2:50:26 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: STARWISE

the AP article wasted no time using the word "bloodshed" in the first sentence.


18 posted on 01/10/2007 2:51:18 PM PST by HOTTIEBOY ("dingleberry" LOL! You guys crack me up.....)
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To: Howlin

Live ping list


19 posted on 01/10/2007 2:57:04 PM PST by Molly Pitcher (We are Americans...the sons and daughters of liberty...*.from FReeper the Real fifi*))
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To: edcoil
Why even give a speech? Everything he seems to want to tell us has already been leaked out.

Are you serious? This is a speech for the country, the world, our military, but to those that are not that politically engaged to read anything that has leaked. Besides, he needs to go on TV and say it directly to the people rather than have the biased media interpret (i.e., skew) what his plan is.

20 posted on 01/10/2007 3:00:14 PM PST by MaestroLC ("Let him who wants peace prepare for war."--Vegetius, A.D. Fourth Century)
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To: HOTTIEBOY

Of course. I checked maybe 10 late afternoon articles before I could find one that wasn't so prejorative as to be an opinion piece, with most focusing more on the Rats' response and pouting.


21 posted on 01/10/2007 3:02:09 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: MaestroLC

Totally agree. He needs to bypass those who disagree with him and use his bully pulpit. One valuable lesson taught to us by President Reagan.


22 posted on 01/10/2007 3:02:18 PM PST by ShandaLear (Perfect People Need Support, too.)
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To: Molly Pitcher; ~Kim4VRWC's~; ~Vor~; 1Mike; 1stMarylandRegiment; 3catsanadog; A CA Guy; ...

LIVE THREAD PING!!!


23 posted on 01/10/2007 3:02:20 PM PST by Howlin (Don't blame me, I voted Republican!)
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To: STARWISE

My several relatives who have fought in Iraq and will be going in again are ready!


24 posted on 01/10/2007 3:07:10 PM PST by SoCalPol (We Need A Border Fence Now)
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To: STARWISE

Even if all of those troops were killed (God forbid!!), there would still be 10,000 fewer American deaths in Iraq in 4 years, than in there were in Korea in 4 years.


25 posted on 01/10/2007 3:08:20 PM PST by syriacus (IF Truman cut + ran after 3,000 deaths, THEN the Korean War would have ended in 5 weeks.)
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To: STARWISE

I pray he comes out strong and straight forward in his speech. I also pray, he tells it like it is and sets everyone (dems) straight.

God Bless the man and all he has to handle.


26 posted on 01/10/2007 3:09:10 PM PST by Lucky9teen (You can discover more about a person in an hour of play than in a year of conversation.)
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To: STARWISE

Never Mind Congress:

Troop Surge Begins Despite Congress' vows to oppose any increase of troops into Iraq, the "leading edge" of the president's troop surge has already arrived in Baghdad.

27 posted on 01/10/2007 3:09:11 PM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (We are going to win!))
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To: Howlin

Thanks! ABC News at the top of the hour said Nanny P. was upset with the President after the meeting today. In fact, she was ANGRY! Then they reported that Boener "tried" to be upbeat in his remarks....


28 posted on 01/10/2007 3:12:53 PM PST by Jrabbit
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To: STARWISE
Unswayed by anti-war passions...

More like anti-results passions. There would be a lot more support for the WOT if there were tangible results, which have been lacking since the last Iraqi election.

Our President needs to return to be being proactive rather than reactive. This should've been done a year ago.

29 posted on 01/10/2007 3:13:16 PM PST by Doohickey (I am not unappeasable. YOU are just too easily appeased.)
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To: STARWISE
Good afternoon. Thanks for the thread. Guess I really need something to make me feel a little bit better. Guess y'all know that my mom was admitted to the hospital last Tuesday night. She died on the 6th which was the anniversary of my dad's death in 1984. My mom would have been 103 on April 26th but God had other plans for her. She left 3 children, 14 grandchildren, 23 great-grandchildren and 5 great-great-grandchildren and a host of other family members and friends. Everyone loved her and my brother's minister said at the service that he had been talking with people and everyone of them said they had never heard her speak badly about anyone. What a legacy she left for all of us.
30 posted on 01/10/2007 3:13:17 PM PST by MamaB (mom to an Angel)
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To: Williams
The anti-war crowd has been wrong, WRONG, WRONG about everything since the day we started bombing the Taliban. Why should they be listened to now?
31 posted on 01/10/2007 3:13:35 PM PST by My2Cents ("Friends stab you from the front." -- Oscar Wilde)
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To: My2Cents

Well, since my mom never said a bad word about anyone, I won't either but I sure would like to.


32 posted on 01/10/2007 3:15:15 PM PST by MamaB (mom to an Angel)
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To: popdonnelly
We hung around long enough in Germany and Japan to make sure that the sacrifices of our servicemen and woman were not rendered meaningless.

And 30,000 troops died in Korea during 2 1/2 years while Truman was president. That's 10 times as many as have died in Iraq under Bush.

34,000 Americans gave their lives for Korean freedom.

33 posted on 01/10/2007 3:16:56 PM PST by syriacus (IF Truman cut + ran after 3,000 deaths, THEN the Korean War would have ended in 5 weeks.)
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To: Howlin

3 hours early? :o)


34 posted on 01/10/2007 3:17:04 PM PST by McGavin999 (Don't be a Freeploader, contribute to the upkeep of FreeRepublic)
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To: MamaB

I'm sorry to hear of your loss, and coming on the anniversary of your father's death makes it even doubly hard to take. God's comfort and presence be with you and your family.


35 posted on 01/10/2007 3:17:17 PM PST by My2Cents ("Friends stab you from the front." -- Oscar Wilde)
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To: MamaB

Very sorry for your loss, MamaB. What a glorious life and family she had .. you were blessed. Prayers for your peace and comfort.


36 posted on 01/10/2007 3:18:20 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: Mo1

If Bush would just scrap the existing rules of engagement, we wouldn't need to send in additional troops.


37 posted on 01/10/2007 3:18:35 PM PST by BradtotheBone
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To: Lucky9teen

Amen.


38 posted on 01/10/2007 3:19:54 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: Howlin

Dear Lord, I pray that our President is empowered by faith in You and receives all the courage, strength and wisdom needed to guide our Country.


39 posted on 01/10/2007 3:21:13 PM PST by SeaBiscuit (God Bless America and All who protect and preserve this Great Nation.)
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To: SoCalPol

God bleses them, socal .. and thank them for their service.


40 posted on 01/10/2007 3:22:00 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: BradtotheBone

Major Strategic Shifts

Iraqis Are in the Lead in Ensuring Success –U.S. in Support Role
•Place the responsibility for success on the Iraqis
•Recognize and expect that sectarian violence must be addressed by Iraqis
•Encourage Iraqis to reach national reconciliation
•Urge Iraqi Government to serve Iraqis in an impartial way

The Primary Mission Is Helping Iraqis Provide Security to the Population
•Help Iraqis provide greater levels of security in Baghdad in order to enable political and economic progress
•Help Iraqis create the security environment in which political deals needed to sustain security gains can be made
•Bolster Iraqi capabilities and transfer responsibility to able units as part of this effort

Moderates Will Be Vigorously Supported in their Battle with Violent Extremists
•Counter extremist portrayalof Iraq’s conflict as Sunni vs. Shi’a, rather than moderates vs. extremists
•Recognize and act upon the reality that the United States has a national interest in seeing moderates succeed
•Build and sustain strategic partnerships with moderate Shi’a, Sunnis, and Kurds

We Will Diversify our Political and Economic Effort in Iraq to Achieve Our Goals
•Increase attention to developments outside of the International Zone –emphasize flexibility
•Help Iraqi provincial governments deliver to their constituents and interact with Baghdad
•Extend the political and economic influence through the expansion of our civilian effort

We Will Further Integrate Our Civil and Military Efforts
•Harness all elements of national power; further augment joint civilian-military efforts throughout theater
•Resource at levels that assume a resilient enemy and realistic assessment of Iraqi capacity over the next 12 months

Embedding Our Iraq Strategy in a Regional Approach is Vital to Success
•Iraq is a regional and international challenge
•Intensify GOI and USG efforts to expand regional and international help, counter Iran and Syria meddling
•Invigorate diplomatic efforts to improve the regional context

We Must Maintain and Expand Our Capabilities for the Long War
•Acknowledge that succeeding in Iraq is the immediate challenge, but it is not the last challenge
•Ensure we have adequate national capabilities to fight the long war, on the military and civilian side

http://www.whitehouse.gov/nsc/iraq/2007/iraq-strategy011007.pdf


41 posted on 01/10/2007 3:22:11 PM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (We are going to win!))
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To: STARWISE

Do we know the breakdown of combat troops vs support?

10,000 troops with 11,500 back field staff is not much.


42 posted on 01/10/2007 3:23:00 PM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: STARWISE
Hello,

Thanks for the thread. I am so hopeful that we will see a turn around in HOW we deal the enemy. ABC is reporting that the leading edge of new troops are already in country. This gives me hope.

God Bless President Bush, our troops and our nation.

MOgirl
43 posted on 01/10/2007 3:25:21 PM PST by MOgirl (My tag line quit.)
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To: Howlin

I can't WAIT for this speech!!


44 posted on 01/10/2007 3:25:29 PM PST by ohioWfan (President Bush - courageously and honorably protecting us in dangerous times, . Praise the Lord!)
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To: SeaBiscuit

Amen!!


45 posted on 01/10/2007 3:26:40 PM PST by ohioWfan (President Bush - courageously and honorably protecting us in dangerous times, . Praise the Lord!)
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To: All
I'm so nervous about the speech tonight that I'm gonna watch with a pillow over my head.

Leni

46 posted on 01/10/2007 3:27:56 PM PST by MinuteGal (The Left takes power only through deception.)
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To: syriacus

***And 30,000 troops died in Korea during 2 1/2 years while Truman was president. That's 10 times as many as have died in Iraq under Bush.

34,000 Americans gave their lives for Korean freedom.***

Now THERE'S a good post we don't usually see. Thanks for the information.


47 posted on 01/10/2007 3:28:10 PM PST by kitkat (The first step down to hell is to deny the existence of evil.)
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To: ohioWfan
I can't WAIT for this speech!!

Me too,I don't agree with this President on alot of issues,but he is one helluva CIC.

48 posted on 01/10/2007 3:29:08 PM PST by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served, to keep us free.)
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To: STARWISE

Thank you, Starwise!! BTTT!!!!!


49 posted on 01/10/2007 3:31:32 PM PST by Chena
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To: STARWISE
While lacking the force of law, the measures would compel Republicans to go on record as either bucking the president or supporting an escalation. Several Republicans appear ready to support the Democrats' measure.

I want names. Which Republicans?

50 posted on 01/10/2007 3:31:46 PM PST by rhombus
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