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America to Blame for Illegal Aliens Turning to Crime, Latino Advocate Says
FOX News ^ | January 10, 2007

Posted on 01/10/2007 2:58:13 PM PST by nuconvert

Edited on 01/10/2007 3:20:44 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

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To: nuconvert

""they're picking up those bad habits of cheating, of drinking and drugs," "

Yeah because Mexico is such a paradigm of law and order! Or are the Mexicans in Mexico acting badly because of us racist Americans too?


21 posted on 01/10/2007 3:16:48 PM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: bayliving

"This would be so much LESS of an issue if our government would get off its collective butt and start enforcing immigration law and shutting down our borders."

El Jefe isn't about to that.


22 posted on 01/10/2007 3:17:47 PM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: SmoothTalker
And that's one of the reasons why our new congress looks the way it does now.

Isn't it?

23 posted on 01/10/2007 3:19:23 PM PST by bayliving (Democrats used to be funny. Now they're just dangerous.)
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To: technomage

It kinda reminds me of something Malik Shabazz said awhile back. He claimed that whitey actually commits far more crimes but whitey cops just let us go.

I think Shabazz wasn't paying attention during my drinking days.


24 posted on 01/10/2007 3:23:02 PM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: bayliving
Illegals are turning our civilized Nation into a Third World Banana Republic. Pretty soon we'll have camouflage-cald federales armed with shoulder holsters and ammo clips patrolling our streets, protecting the "rights" of illegals.

Karl Rove actually said US laws were deliberately not enforced so as "not to inconvenience those who came here from Mexico seeking a better life."

"Inconveniencing" child molesters must be right up there. After all "they are just seeking a better life." So what if American kids get molested? That's the price we must pay for "diversity" (/sarc).

Now hear this Washington: Government policy must be based on facts, not political expediency. Our civilized society rests on the rule of law. A democratic society insists upon constitutional principles being applied all the time, not just when it is expedient. A superficial, cavalier approach cannot begin to address the very real problems of violent crime.

25 posted on 01/10/2007 3:23:47 PM PST by Liz (Nearly all men can stand adversity, but to test a man's character, give him power. Abe Lincoln)
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To: Riverman94610
I think the beef a lot of folks have with you is that you get upset when someone discusses the crimes of Latinos,both legal and otherwise.The plain fact of the matter is that there ARE some Hispanics who are doing some very nasty things out there.Plenty of blacks and whites doing heinous things also,as you always point out.Yet calling out a Latino for saying and doing crazy things does not make one a racist,as you often imply.

Oh please, there are people on FR who will jump at the chance and have itchy mouse fingers when a guy named Jose commits a violent crime, but if that guys name is Chad or Jamel, they are silent in their outrage.

26 posted on 01/10/2007 3:24:28 PM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: nuconvert

I thought it was bad when I got blamed for Johnny stealing radios because I had them and he didn't.


27 posted on 01/10/2007 3:25:18 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Old Professer
You must let dem touch dose tings. Dey haff never touched dose nice tings before.

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28 posted on 01/10/2007 3:31:42 PM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: Dane; Riverman94610
Oh please, there are people on FR who will jump at the chance and have itchy mouse fingers when a guy named Jose commits a violent crime, but if that guys name is Chad or Jamel, they are silent in their outrage.

Well, you're right about one part of this, Dane, there will be more crime in the near future by the Chads and Jamels, because they can't get a job! Crime pays, that's what our youth is being taught by your "trusted travelers".

The local law enforcement is now forced to not even go after the Chads and the Jamals, because Jose has all the jail cells full!

And it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better if you have your way, Dane, isn't it? The Dahmers of the world got free reign with our new illegal alien criminal class taking all the resources of every community.

Disgusting.

29 posted on 01/10/2007 3:37:49 PM PST by WatchingInAmazement (President DUNCAN HUNTER 2008! http://www.house.gov/hunter/border1.html)
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To: nuconvert

Yes, Yes, by all means, let's not hold individuals responsible for their own acts. It's somebody else's fault.


30 posted on 01/10/2007 3:48:40 PM PST by R.W.Ratikal (q)
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To: nuconvert

This statement is so ridiculous that Jesse Diaz should be laughed out of the galaxy for saying it.

“Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals could believe them.”


31 posted on 01/10/2007 3:55:42 PM PST by Disambiguator
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To: nuconvert

Yes, you are to blame for all the crimes of these illegal aliens!

Your illegal alien associates will also get social security payments for stealing my social security number!

"only kidding"


32 posted on 01/10/2007 4:04:05 PM PST by ethics
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To: nuconvert
Americans are to blame for some illegal immigrants becoming serial crooks because "they're picking up those bad habits of cheating, of drinking and drugs,"

I love Mexico, and I have good friends who are Mexican, both there and here. And the reality of Mexico is that people don't travel most of the roads between cities after dark, because of bandits. There are also whole states that are virtual "no-go" zones because of drug gangs.

Mexican illegals didn't need to learn anything about crime from us. We all learned it from the same source: Adam and Eve.

33 posted on 01/10/2007 4:06:07 PM PST by SamuraiScot
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To: kittymyrib; nuconvert; cripplecreek; gubamyster; All

Illegal Alien Charged With Raping Pre-Teen

Jan. 9,2007

http://www.fox10tv.com/global/story.asp?s=5893261&ClientType=Printable

BAY MINETTE-- An illegal alien is behind bars in Baldwin County, charged with raping a young child.

Investigators the case involved a man having a sexual relationship with a girl who was too young.
Mexican immigrants who come to Alabama often discover cultural differences.

Maricela Mendez was 15 when she married an older man in Mexico and got pregnant.

"My mom didn't know him," Mendez said. "He came to work in my town. We became boyfriend and girlfriend and a little bit later got married."

You can get married in Mexico at age 13, but Salvador Nava's victim was even younger.

Nava is charged with first degree rape in connection with a relationship he admitted to investigators that he had with a young girl.

He faces possible life in prison.

"In this case, him being 20 and she being under the age of 12. There's a pretty big gap," said Lt. John Murphy of the Baldwin County Sheriff's Office. "Those gaps are sometimes accepted in other cultures. "

Local immigrants told Fox Ten News it is illegal for older men to have sex with younger children in Mexico, but those laws are not often enforced.

"It's not like here when they're under 18," said a recent immigrant working at a local business. "In Mexico, they leave them alone. It happens often."

It's starting to happen here within some segments of the Hispanic population.

"We did have a case with a pre-teen who was pregnant and unmarried and living in a situation that was awful," said Michelle Prockup, director of Catholic Social Services of Baldwin County.

Prockup says education is the key to stopping it.

"We need to provide some sort of opportunity for people to learn about our laws and learn about our culture," she said.

In Mexico it's more often up to families than police to establish boundaries.

Carmen Velasquez has an 11-year-old daughter.

"I would not let her date a 20-year-old," Velasquez said. "We notice and ask how old the person is. If I see that the man is too old and the girl is too young, she shouldn't pay him attention. "

"These individuals are here. They are under the criminal code that we have here and as they're living here, they're responsible for living up to those things," said Lt. Murphy.

Nava is currently being held under a $25,000 bond.


34 posted on 01/10/2007 4:06:52 PM PST by WatchingInAmazement (President DUNCAN HUNTER 2008! http://www.house.gov/hunter/border1.html)
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To: WatchingInAmazement

Thank God for Bush's family values!


35 posted on 01/10/2007 4:08:16 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: word_warrior_bob

All you have to do do is turn on your local Mexican TV channel. The woman all look like tramps and act like tramps. I don't think all of this just came from America. If it is so bad they can all go home and become Mexican saints. How come the gang crimes and crime rates have gone up in so many cities since their mass invasion?


36 posted on 01/10/2007 4:10:41 PM PST by dforest (Liberals love crisis, create crisis and then dwell on them.)
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To: WatchingInAmazement

Obviously we have far too much crime in this country committed by legal citizens. However that doesn't mean we should simply accept crimes committed by illegals because we already have crime anyway.


37 posted on 01/10/2007 4:11:49 PM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: cripplecreek
Obviously we have far too much crime in this country committed by legal citizens. However that doesn't mean we should simply accept crimes committed by illegals because we already have crime anyway.

Exactly. And the other poster has been challenged many times on the correct comparison and has never been able to "show me".

The correct comparison is, how many dead illegal aliens are there at the hands of US citizens COMPARED to dead USCITIZENS by aliens. I can think of one incident by a criminal citizen against an alien (can't count naturalized citizen smugglers either!). And no one has shown me otherwise.

38 posted on 01/10/2007 4:20:33 PM PST by WatchingInAmazement (President DUNCAN HUNTER 2008! http://www.house.gov/hunter/border1.html)
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To: nuconvert
America to Blame for Illegal Aliens Turning to Crime, Latino Advocate Says

Well, I kind of have to agree with him. By failing to strengthen our borders, enforce our laws and round every illegal up and send their butts back home, it IS our fault!!

By the same token, if we're so nasty, why do so many of them want to come here??





(Details, details. If yer gonne spout off, make sure you don't end up lookin' like a bigger fool than ya already are!!!)

39 posted on 01/10/2007 4:24:19 PM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: SmoothTalker

What a joke this guy is.The latinos fouled their own nest south of the border,now they want to foul ours.


40 posted on 01/10/2007 4:28:33 PM PST by Farmer Dean (Every time a toilet flushes,another liberal gets his brains.)
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