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School meal is poor substitute for home-cooked involvement
The Seattle Times ^ | 1/11/07 | Bruce Ramsey

Posted on 01/11/2007 12:57:52 PM PST by goodnesswins

The social-service industry thinks otherwise. One of its principal lobbies, the Children's Alliance, paid a visit to The Seattle Times the other day to promote its proposals for the Legislature — a Legislature likely to be favorable. One of the group's proposals was that the state should pay for a free lunch to kids from families in the $26,000-to-$37,000 income bracket for a family of four. These kids have been offered a lunch that is reduced in price but not free.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: breakfast; education; lunch; schools
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To: politicalwit

Makes you wonder when congress will mandate free breakfast and lunch for minimum wage workers.



Soon, son, soon. Years ago I had a woman clean house for me. She had two children to see off to school each morning. One morning I called and she was in bed. I asked her why she was in bed, and she told me that the children were now eating breakfast in school and she didnt have to get up any more. So her 8 year old and her 11 year old got up and dressed and walked to nanny school and she slept in.

Disgusting.


21 posted on 01/11/2007 1:43:59 PM PST by Chickensoup (If you don't go to the holy war, the holy war will come to you.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
The view that home schooling is the answer to much is rosy in the extreme.

Are you saying that homeschooling isn't the answer to much?

22 posted on 01/11/2007 1:44:48 PM PST by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: TruthConquers

The fact remains that the vast majority of people cannot home school and not many SHOULD even if they could. Given the level of ignorance about subjects which need to be taught few children would receive a proper education.

Few parents can teach math, languages, grammar, history, science or any other subject which has any substance to it.

Even on FR the level of misinformation, distorted information and just plain old false information is staggering.


23 posted on 01/11/2007 1:46:10 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: goodnesswins

You said a mouthful there!!!!


24 posted on 01/11/2007 1:46:30 PM PST by Gabz (If we weren't crazy, we'd just all go insane.)
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To: Oberon

Absolutely.


25 posted on 01/11/2007 1:46:50 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

It seems many students are NOT learning much "math, languages, grammar, history, science or any other subject which has any substance to it" in the Public Schools.....for those who would WANT to try....more power to them....they do NOT need advanced educations.....just motivation to find the resources....IMHO.


26 posted on 01/11/2007 1:50:02 PM PST by goodnesswins (We need to cure Academentia)
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To: goodnesswins

who want to try HOMESCHOOLING...that should read.


27 posted on 01/11/2007 1:50:45 PM PST by goodnesswins (We need to cure Academentia)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

Whose "fact"? Actually you claim many "facts". Where are they? Got links?

I see, your opinion stands in for "facts".


28 posted on 01/11/2007 1:52:54 PM PST by TruthConquers (Delenda est publius schola)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

Well, it's one answer to a few things.


29 posted on 01/11/2007 1:53:29 PM PST by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: goodnesswins

"It seems many students are NOT learning much "math, languages, grammar, history, science or any other subject which has any substance to it" in the Public Schools....." It seems you are completely wrong.

Perhaps you should examine the curriculums at good schools before revealing your lack of knowledge.

95%+ of our Armed Forces are public school graduates. Public education is partially responsible for this being one of the most literate, most productive societies in history.


30 posted on 01/11/2007 1:53:58 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

I purposely did NOT say ALL..... many are falling between the dumbed down cracks of our public education system where in many schools they don't teach advanced math, true history, or require proper English....and I think you know that.....


31 posted on 01/11/2007 1:56:32 PM PST by goodnesswins (We need to cure Academentia)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
The sentence is quite clear. Even a publicly schooled child could understand it.

I'm kinda slow, so maybe you can help me out here: ...the answer to much...what?

32 posted on 01/11/2007 1:56:59 PM PST by RedQuill
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To: goodnesswins

I don't think it is just schools with horrible nutrition, just look in your own cupboards. I'm sure you could find processed foods, sodas, "fake" foods, sugary treats. This the the way of the nation.

They (and I have never quite figured out who this group of people called "they" are) say that people live longer than our ancestors...the only reason we live longer is because there are better drugs keeping us alive. Who do you know that doesn't take at least one drug to help with some medical problem?

Our food is still killing us. It is full of chemicals, antibiotics, and hormones.


33 posted on 01/11/2007 1:57:08 PM PST by CANBFORGIVEN (! Corinthians 2:14)
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To: CANBFORGIVEN

LOL.....LOOK in MY cupboards.....we eat like about 3% of the population.....you probably wouldn't believe it....but, I agree that the food many people eat is less than stellar.....and I predict as others have that the next generation will NOT live longer than this one....with its current eating style.


34 posted on 01/11/2007 1:59:23 PM PST by goodnesswins (We need to cure Academentia)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Few parents can teach math, languages, grammar, history, science or any other subject which has any substance to it.

And the schools which failed to give them the tools to teach 'subjects with any substance' can teach their kids? Hah! And some education major whose one math class was "math for teachers" can do a better job?

35 posted on 01/11/2007 2:00:02 PM PST by JenB
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To: TruthConquers
Did you sleep through the last election where ignorance was on parade? Are you UNaware that 75-80% of Black children are born out of wedlock which is about as stupid a thing as a person can do?

Have you stumbled onto a massively educated society no one else knows of?

How many FReepers even have read the classics of Western thought? How many have read even ONE complete Platonic dialog or a work by Aristotle? How many can solve an equation or work with triganometric functions, calculate the results of a chemical reaction, explain the progression of the equinoxes. How many can explain the creation of the Constitution and the forces at work there?
36 posted on 01/11/2007 2:00:47 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Oberon

It is a false solution to real problems.


37 posted on 01/11/2007 2:01:15 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
It is a false solution to real problems.

Oh?

It works for my family.

Have you tried it?

38 posted on 01/11/2007 2:02:30 PM PST by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: goodnesswins

Those schools under seige by the underclass and its advocates have great difficulties (none of which HS will solve) but the vast majority of schools have a number of advanced placement courses as well as advanced courses in sciences, courses in languages. Most homeschool advocates wave their inability to teach such courses off with a "well they can take it from a junior college" which begs the question.

My children went to private and public schools and any failings in their educations were their faults not those of the schools. I attended public school in southern Arkansas and had an excellent preparation for college. My late wife was a teacher in inner city Chicago and it became clear that the GREATEST problem with children getting educated was their PARENT (it was rare to find parents) not the schools.


39 posted on 01/11/2007 2:06:47 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Oberon

It works for some students because of the PARENTS. In the vast majority of those cases the child would have done very well in the schools as long as the parents were involved.

My children are grown.


40 posted on 01/11/2007 2:08:23 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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