Posted on 01/12/2007 8:08:46 AM PST by presidio9
How magnamimous of Swampland to allow people to continue to practice their religion as they see fit.
I suspect the A.G. knows that another authority will overturn his decision, letting him look "reasonable," while achieving the coerced "tolerance" that is the whole point.
When can I force the mayor to marry myself, three wives, the cat and a 9 year old?
It obviously has the right not to bless fake ones.
Give it a couple of months.
What I find disturbing is the language of this article. Since when does the AG make "rulings"? His opinion is just that, an opinion and he is entitled to it. He gets to say whether he will prosecute cases, and he has made it clear that won't prosecute people of the cloth who don't want to perform these deviant, sad ceremonies. It is the job of the Courts to interpret law and issue rulings, not the Executive Branch. Sounds like the author is more than ready for fiat Government.
Interesting qualification here.
The day that any government body starts dictating to my church how it must or must not administer its rites is the day that my loyalty to and support for that government ends.
Well, DUH! Attorney General Stuart Rabner...New Jersey's own Captain Obvious.
If a man's boinking a partner he's had for 6 weeks, that "partner" can be added to his employers health insurance plan. Medical screening? A pass. Expensive AIDS treatments? No problem.
But a man whose elderly dependent father lives with him? Nope, no way - can't be added to any group health insurance...
Is it appropriate to refer to Christian clergy as "clerics". That word seems wrong to me somehow. Can someone enlighten me as to the etiology of that word?
"Clergy" and "cleric" have the same root. The basic English usage is "cleric," singular noun, "clergy," plural noun, and "clerical," adjective.
So the use of "clerics" is appropriate, but not entirely correct ... sort of like saying "persons" instead of "people."
Word History: Cleric, clerk, and clark all come from Latin clçricus, "a man in a religious order, a man in holy orders." Cleric appears in Old English about 975 and lasts into the 13th century. Clerc appears in late Old English, around 1129, and was identical in spelling and pronunciation with Old French clerc, "belonging to the (Christian) clergy." In the Middle Ages the clergy were the only literate class and were often employed as scribes, secretaries, or notaries. By about 1200 clerc had acquired the meaning "pupil, scholar," as we see in Chaucer's "clerk of Oxenford" in The Canterbury Tales (around 1386). Clerks were also of necessity employed in keeping accounts and recording business transactions; this is the source of the modern sense of clerk.
"Deo's group had been particularly worried by one line in the October New Jersey Supreme Court ruling that prompted the civil-union bill signed into law last month by Gov. Corzine. The court ruling, which required that the state Legislature grant committed gay couples the same legal rights as their married counterparts, stated that those couples would "be free... to sanctify their relationships in religious ceremonies in houses of worship."
Lee Moore, a spokesman for the Attorney General's Office, maintained that Rabner's ruling did not conflict with that language. Same-sex couples, he said, will be free to have their unions solemnized in religious ceremonies - if the religious leader agrees to it."
That isn't how I read it. The bill states homosexuals are free to sanctify their relationships, not, the clergy can refuse.
There's a lot of ambiguity in this bill that just needs a hard shove from the hard left.
The English surname Clark has the same origin--a sound shift changed "er" to "ar" (found in a lot of other words too--compare English starve with German sterben or English harvest with German Herbst).
Just wait a while and the ACLU will be suing to take away tax exempt status from any religious organization which refuses to conduct same-sex marriage ceremonies.
Not yet.
>>Can someone enlighten me as to the etiology of that word?<<
Etiology: The causes or origins of DISEASE.
Etymology: The origins or "roots" of WORDS.
Are you implying that it is "sick" to use a word like "clerics?"
I can assure you that's not Anglican -- just read through The Order for The Burial of the Dead in our 1928 Book of Common Prayer (sadly, we conducted that service twice in our church November and December, so it's fresh). To be found therein:
...But you're talking about Trinity NYC, which appears to be about as apostate liberal Episcopal (and unAnglican) as it is possible to get. Your report does not surprise me.
JESUS said, Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know. Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way? Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
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